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gambling addiction hitting peak time tv this week.
Monday, Panorama bbc1 8.30pm, Bronagh Munro investigates the betting industry's efforts to protect problem gamblers, meeting families who have lost members to addiction.
Thursday, itv1 7.30pm, Ross Kemp living with online gambling addiction, the actor meets problem online gamblers, whose lives have been shattered by the addiction.
hope no-one off the forum is involved.
Monday, Panorama bbc1 8.30pm, Bronagh Munro investigates the betting industry's efforts to protect problem gamblers, meeting families who have lost members to addiction.
Thursday, itv1 7.30pm, Ross Kemp living with online gambling addiction, the actor meets problem online gamblers, whose lives have been shattered by the addiction.
hope no-one off the forum is involved.
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always the negative
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Seems the suspicions of some about last week's programme are being realised.
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Yes it's all a conspiracy by the evil BBC.
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You misunderstood sparrow there is obviously a gambling is bad type agenda otherwise these 2 programmes wouldn't exist the timing of this Panorama isn't coincidental they've chosen now when they've had years to do such shows.
A poster made a good point on one of the threads last week saying what would've happened if Lloyd's teams won on the last day and he doubled his money,what sort of message would that've sent out would the show have been edited differently? The country's had a huge gambling problem for years there'll be something like 100 online betting/casino companies available to users in the UK won't be much off that number anyway. |
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I've never known a horse racing punter - professional or not - that has never fallen on hard times in their vocation. I believe even the professionals unless with inside info or connected to stables made a good living out of their vocation. And, nearly everyone had a 2nd job to help facilitate the difficult periods.
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I know exactly what some people think about the BBC Denzil and it's not just about racing either. Anyway, I would support any organisation that attacks off course bookmakers.
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I agree. Off course bookies are parasites, and they take a monumental slice of the profit originated from horse racing - their sponsorship amount to a smidgeon of their profits; they also manipulate sp to their advantage.
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I have a vague recollection of one of his buddies from Albert Square using the furthest traveller system with considerable success.
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Will be mildly interesting to listen to the numptie who lost (gave away) 3 million quid.
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Could he be a bigger numptie than the one on here who's give Paddy 200k?
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Was it the same Paddy that issued VIP invitations to a guy on their patch who'd turned over 10 million online using the Post Office's 1+ million cash?
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where did this 200k figure come from
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Magic_Daps
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jeez,now that is a wake up call,thats a stop job.
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Hope he doesn't read this thread , thin skinned he is.
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low self esteem exasperated by gambling addiction.
should seek help asap. sorry mate,its the truth. |
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'johnwayne': "Always the negative".
The positives of gambling can be listed on one hand eg it creates a buzz; a small financial reward - that seem to be it! And, I'm a regular punter (big races only), and periodically in the past). On the other hand it's a debilitating disease for an addict or compulsive gambler which affects everything related to the individual eg family life, and society - these are expensive and immeasurable. Addiction to gambling is fast becoming a scourge to psychiatrists. If left unchecked it could challenge that of dependency to drugs soon. |
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shouldnt it be addicted to winning,it is always people who have lost pretty much everything that claim they are addicted to gambling,never a problem when winning and they nearly always seemed to have lost it on things that vastly favour the bookie(no need to put any effort in) with the odds they give.even that beat the bookie programme had him betting on jockey colours and never went in to how to have the best chance of winning,it showed you that guy with his big team watching football but it never really explained that they are looking for differences in the odds,it made it look like they bet on ever football game
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Great glad to see these programs in the public. The bookmakers are Toxic and do little to nothing to help people who have problems. I believe its the end for bookmakers.
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The problem is lads. Bookmakers..I mean casinos
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The guardian are anti gambling, which for me is a good thing. They expose the bookmakers for what they real are.
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the one thing online betting has shown is the true MO of the bookies. Win, banned. Don't lose quickly enough, banned. Beat the price, banned. Show any semblance of nous, banned. Any threat whatsoever to the bottom line, banned. Complete mug, do you want to come to the box at Cheltenham, free lunch, drinks on us, meet fellow mugs.
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Before I finish my rant. One thing the Gambling Commision (who are a joke by the way) must make the penalties larger 50 to 60 million. a 5 million pound fine is nothing to the big firms. Its a total joke. Does anyone know who the Gambling Commission is regulated by? Because they are doing a pathetic job currently.
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regulation is the issue. there's none. we have the SPRC overseeing starting prices. the SPRC have as much authority as a greggs mince pie. however the fact they are there implies some kind of regulation is in place (the 'R' bit). It's a complete free for all, the bookies know it & are taking the p!ss because of it.
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Gambling is no more of a problem than drinking, poor diet, lack of exercise,etc. etc. Programmes such as Panorama will only mention the
down sides of any topic. Should grocery stores limit how much food/alchohol/tabacco people buy? Maybe there should be limits on how much any individual should be allowed to invest in shares etc (in reality a form of gambling). If people chose to loose their fortunes on the stock exchange or gambling, or chose to increase their chances of an early death by over-indulging and not exercising, that's their business, not the State's. |
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^^
There are various degrees of consequences from addiction/over indulgence, and the consequences are too eg if one is addicted to eating nuts that is non-offensive, self-induced and little consequence to the family concerned (if any) or public or society in general. However, to be badly affected and/or addicted to gambling as a youngster (uni days) who'd be our future is extremely detrimental to their future, their family, society and country too. As for individuals who are constantly on a diet,...my simple advice would be, educate oneself; understand food; know what one is eating,t; eat lesser (in moderation) of the non-healthy food; eat less and not until one is felling completely full-up. And, remember there is no fat person amongst those affected in a famine. If inducements or attractions aplenty eg food takeaways near schools, free bets promotions from bookies, etc, these must be monitored and stamped on asap, and not allowed another episode similar to the proliferation of fobt on the user, their family and society. |
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Do Camelot come under scrutiny.Selling scratch cards to sixteen yearolds?
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Eat drink bet and be merry
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No payout to winner under 16yrs of age; the retailer/seller and cctv are the main determinants of players. And, this minimum age could be increased to 17 or 18 in the future.
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Been on both sides of this debate, must admit. I have dealt professionally with problem gambling (from an academic perspective) and attended some key conferences etc e.g. Gamcare.
But, I'm also a player myself, and I would never wish to see gambling over-regulated. There are elements of choice for many, and lack of choice for some when truly affected by gambling disorders. The answer (as usual) has to be a balance between choice and controls. |
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do you get banned by the stock exchange if too many of your stocks appreciate ? limited to buying a yorkie from the shop for getting too many winners on the scratchcards ?
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hulk - I agree that stock trading is essentially a form of gambling. There's even some interesting research into that comparison, in terms of 'problem gambling stock trading'.
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There is an abundance of spoofing and layering in the less liquid and small cap companies in the Stock Exchange (Aim); traders from within the same financial entity eg analysts and traders/dealers do collude to dislodge one's hard-earned cash by manipulating a sudden share sp fall and hike without a moment's notice eg could be as quick as the daily "walking the dog exercise" on one of these small-cap ill-liquid companies eg Rockhopper (an oli/gas explorer).
I think where there's money to be made, the temptation, greed and reward are aplenty; the Stock Market is just another platform where greed and fraud go hand-in-hand willingly and regularly (esp just prior to x'mas) with impunity from the toothless City Watchdog. |
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As you say impossible, most likely trading manipulations also. They will likely affect exactly the sort of stock trader who is prone to 'problem trading/gambling' i.e. the individuals, home trading, self funding etc.
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It's an interesting point about forms of trading/gambling in this wider debate. I personally think that other forms of gambling are the real key issue.
For example 'casino' forms of gambling are the worst for several reasons. I think intervention (if there was any) should be targeted at those very random and high action forms which are essentially designed to purposely produce problem behaviours. That is different to someone who gets problems with other forms where slower and more controlled gambling can be naturally used. If a form of gambling (e.g. slot machines) is designed to cause compulsive, rapid, addictive behaviour, I fail to see how that should be promoted in gambling. |
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Will be surprised if these programmes are not about FOBTs rather than sports betting.
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Yes, it may be, but still the casino sites spawn like bacteria everwhere, including standard bookies sites....
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Gambling companies see huge rise in complaints
. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49284169 |