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dustybin
22 Mar 19 15:17
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Got to be a concern as the heat is notched up I'd have thought?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-47650835
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Report dustybin March 22, 2019 2:18 PM GMT
*or rather 17 yrs jail between 3 suppliers
Report dustybin March 22, 2019 2:21 PM GMT
Facetimers standing out like a sore thumb at race meetings eachday, not hard for the prosecution to make a case.
Report howard March 22, 2019 2:24 PM GMT
" sold to over 1000 pubs "  Looks like a load more pubs will be closing as most can't afford legit pics.
Report equine flew March 22, 2019 2:27 PM GMT
Selling to 1000 pubs > streaming free to you mate at home
Report howard March 22, 2019 2:29 PM GMT
Would be good news for racecourse facetimers to face the courts as it would bring the fast pictures bonanza for the tracks into the headlines.
Report dustybin March 22, 2019 2:31 PM GMT
Facetiming is a large operation supplying countless as a business with a large revenue stream and no tax being declared. Not only a breach of copyright, but a facility to cheat at betting.
Surely its only time before one gets stopped on course and the phone and contacts extracted and the communications act used to find exactly who are getting supplied?
Report dustybin March 22, 2019 2:33 PM GMT
I'd take this as a heads up if I were the ones supplying.
Report dave1357 March 22, 2019 2:34 PM GMT
rich riccici's bookies just fcked over hundreds of betters - not even a shrug from the "authorities", so 17 years in jsil a disgrace imo
Report leif March 22, 2019 2:36 PM GMT
USA citizens can watch premiership footy for b ugger all?
Report dustybin March 22, 2019 2:38 PM GMT
Ireland get 3pm KO, but its not allowed here.
You can see their thinking.
The very market that makes the money will by the one in the country its controlled in.
Report hulk23 March 22, 2019 2:48 PM GMT
worrying time for anyone who's been using the facetimers services - should be easy to hunt them down, probably looking at a spell in the big house ...
Report Deltâ March 22, 2019 2:49 PM GMT
ShockedSad
Report mouse muldoon March 22, 2019 2:50 PM GMT
ABANDON YATCH

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Report dustybin March 22, 2019 2:51 PM GMT
Laugh
Report howard March 22, 2019 2:52 PM GMT
hulkWink  It's a bit like bookies that didn't report FOBT's being smashed up. The racecourses don't want a can of worms opening.
Report dustybin March 22, 2019 3:06 PM GMT
No bigger badboy than the HMRC though
Report dustybin March 22, 2019 3:20 PM GMT
It amazes me how some people are either so blasse, or simply dont understand the law.

HMRC dont need a court order, and have the GCHQ at hand to track all communications if they are suspicious.
The Communications Act isnt just about pedos and terrorists, its also about tracking down anyone of interest who they consider to be affecting the economy through non payment of tax.
Racecourses wouldnt need to report fters, if the HMRC believed they wernt getting tax due they'd just audit the ones they were suspicious of. They even have the power to access bank accounts without your knowledge.
Report themightymac March 22, 2019 3:26 PM GMT
The only way they could get Al Capone was on Tax evasion.
Report dustybin March 22, 2019 3:29 PM GMT
Thats right, and he ended up in Alcatraz.
And it was an illegal product he wasnt declaring tax on (bootlegging)
Report dustybin March 22, 2019 3:29 PM GMT
^how can you declare tax on an illegal product?
Report themightymac March 22, 2019 3:38 PM GMT
Big business don`t even declare tax on legal products.
Report themightymac March 22, 2019 3:41 PM GMT
Premier League won a big court case last year where all major internet providers now have to block free football streams.
Report dustybin March 22, 2019 3:48 PM GMT
Theres a changing appetite towards financial fraud.
I was surprised to read how the first few cases have occured lately of individuals who have come from abroad with dodgy funds, and in the past London had a hard on for money defrauded from other countries where it would boost the economy for luxury items or property, well now they freeze the assets, take a cut (hmmm?) to cover expenses and actually hand the money back to the country from which they came from.
Report leif March 22, 2019 3:52 PM GMT
There's no bigger fraudsters than the Central banks and government. They gave us the term 'Quantitative Easing' pumping billions into the system (printing money out of thin air) and giving it to the banksters to buy up up all the bad debt that had been created through fraudulent financial mechanisms. In short, they have succeeded in achieving the biggest transfer of wealth to the elites that the world has ever seen. 

and yet they come after 'us' for watching the odd sports fixture stream Cry
Report dustybin March 22, 2019 3:54 PM GMT
socialism for the rich
capitalism for the poor

Theres always been 'right' ways and 'wrong' ways
Report Magic__Daps March 22, 2019 4:06 PM GMT
6 years each for that.... That is more than the good old Rolf Harris got for abusing kids aged 7... What a joke this "justice system" is.
Report Magic__Daps March 22, 2019 4:10 PM GMT
dustybin 22 Mar 19 15:29
^how can you declare tax on an illegal product?


Obviously you get someone to cook the books of a legal product, and declare the income on the non existent legal product and give the Taxman his 20% - everyone's a winner....
Report impossible123 March 22, 2019 4:18 PM GMT
The providers in the oldest profession pay taxes, does that mean HMRC obtained monies immorally? If so, services and projects funded with immoral earnings.
Report dustybin March 22, 2019 4:19 PM GMT
brasses pay taxes?
may pay vat but not on services
Report dustybin March 22, 2019 4:21 PM GMT
knocking shops pay on massages Wink
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 22, 2026 4:40 PM GMT
worrying time for anyone
Report swiftynifty March 22, 2026 4:50 PM GMT
be getting out soon shirley?
Report uptheirons March 22, 2026 5:00 PM GMT
Certainly within the next seven yearsLaugh
Report the old nanny ;-) March 22, 2026 5:27 PM GMT
Wrong uns walk free with suspendeds , This mob banged up , Summat not right
Report uptheirons March 22, 2026 5:33 PM GMT
It was some time ago,NannyLaugh
Report swiftynifty March 22, 2026 5:38 PM GMT
times have changed, prisons full, you can get away with murder nowadays!
Report penzance March 22, 2026 6:31 PM GMT
Big delay on Nanny's stream.
Mischief
Report impossible123 March 22, 2026 7:32 PM GMT
I think The BBC needs to be more proactive and take the TV Licence evaders to court. There are so many watching mainstream transmission on tv, laptop and mobile phones without a licence. Also, make the evasion a criminal offence. Knowingly and deliberately not having a TV licence is a form of fraud.
Report swiftynifty March 22, 2026 7:45 PM GMT
Should be a fairly simple way of monitoring it, you need to log in, from a registered address, like the I-Player.
Report the old nanny ;-) March 22, 2026 10:08 PM GMT
LOL Penz I was hooked
Report the old nanny ;-) March 22, 2026 10:10 PM GMT
Dylan Dawes

Charges brought against the former BBC Wales producer

Children and Animals involved on this occasion

Released on conditional bail and Judge Richard Kember set the trial date for April 7 in Cardiff.  he did not enter a plea

You want people to pay towards this IMP

Its never ending
Report the old nanny ;-) March 22, 2026 10:15 PM GMT
I sugest you Tune into channel 5  for a bit of BBC history you must have missed , Kicks off at 10.30   Savile Harris Glittle and Itsa knock out Stu

Edwards not on there but 5 are running a drama staring tuesday About Huw

paying towards these types is not for me , but each to their own
Report FOYLESWAR March 23, 2026 7:28 AM GMT
agree wi nanny, foo kem
Report impossible123 March 23, 2026 7:35 AM GMT
If the prisons are full consider housing them in poly-tunnels or barracks which the inmates will have to pay for themselves. I honestly believe some prisons ought to be charged eg benefit and financial fraudsters and traffic offenders.

Next consider charging the repeat and self-inflicted users of the NHS eg smokers / heavy drinkers (cancer-related cases); fatties (non-hereditary but greedy and convenient food abusers). UK Plc and taxpayers cannot afford to continue to fund these categories of health and food abusers.
Report impossible123 March 23, 2026 7:53 AM GMT
What the BBC gravy-trainers / individuals are doing / have done in the past should not be used to define the legitimacy and legality of possessing a TV Licence. There are so many householders I've come across without a TV Licence. Some are benefit recipients.

Road Tax - Vehicles (for using the roads).
VAT - Goods
Import / Custom & Excise - Vehicles
Income / Corporation Tax - Individual / Company

As such, why exclude a TV Licence tax for users? Pay-per view eg SKY / NOW / Disney / etc.

Pay to use it, simple!
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