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ItsMeSwaddle
31 Jan 19 18:46
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To run in a handicap UK/IRE?

And the shortest price to get beat in a handicap?

A handicapped Cardenden doesnt count.
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Report salmon spray January 31, 2019 6:50 PM GMT
If you go back far enough you'd probably find a few races where no price was returned.
I think I can remember one or two,though by my day they were probably conditions races of some sort. But go back pre-war.....
Report onlooker January 31, 2019 7:38 PM GMT
You would have to trawl through these to see if ANY were HANDICAP races - most doubtful, though ...

The shortest-priced losing favourite in British racing history was ridden by Gordon Richards, Royal Forest, who finished second at odds of 1-25 in the Clarence House Stakes at Ascot on September 23, 1948.

Royal Forest made most of the running, but gave best by half a length to 33-1 shot Burpham. He was also the beaten favourite in the following year's Derby.

Richards often failed to shine on temperamental colts like Royal Forest and Glendower, who was indeed beaten in a two-horse race, at Chepstow in 1947. The 1-20 favourite whipped round at the start and unseated Richards.

Among the hottest losing favourites in Britain since World War II, third and fourth places are taken by Alamo in a two-horse race at Brighton in 1966, and Jock Scot (7-100) in the Dee Stakes at Chester in 1948.

This does not take into account the fact that, when on-course betting tax existed, no SP was returned if one horse was overwhelmingly favoured. Two such favourites were beaten: St Alphage at Ascot in 1968, and Starlite Night at Nottingham in 1985.

The three shortest-priced beaten favourites over jumps were Arum Lily Picador and Suluk, who all started at 1-14

Note:  Betting TAX was introduced in the mi-1960s - ON-COURSE Betting TAX was abolished in 1987
Report ItsMeSwaddle January 31, 2019 7:45 PM GMT
Very insightful thanks
Report salmon spray January 31, 2019 7:49 PM GMT
Of course it would be betting tax that explains the non-returns I remember onlooker. Was thinking it would have been two or three horse flat races where there was only one winner on all known form.
Report madhatters January 31, 2019 7:54 PM GMT
Last 3 years few 1-4 been beat
Cliff Face 2016 1-7 winner
Report Magic__Daps January 31, 2019 10:29 PM GMT
Pipey had a 1/14 fav beat a few weeks ago, think it was a Novice Hurdle though. Can't remember name, something Cave?
Report sparrow January 31, 2019 10:32 PM GMT
St Alphage brings back memories.
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2019 10:34 PM GMT
wuprised if shortest in a h/cap was less than 1/4 ish
Report DenzilPenberthy January 31, 2019 10:38 PM GMT
Wolverhampton 7th November 2013 Tweed 2/13f 2nd
Report DenzilPenberthy January 31, 2019 10:39 PM GMT
Last 10 years
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2019 10:39 PM GMT
Whoops
Report ThirdTimeLucky February 1, 2019 8:07 AM GMT
Tim Vaughan (who else) , had a 1/8 shot beaten at Fontwell in a 3 runner handicap a few years back. One of those ex pointers that was off about a 35lb lower mark over hurdles, he used to be quite good at that!
Report big aitch February 1, 2019 8:28 AM GMT
seeing about the betting Tax, that was on course only wasn't it? I remember in the early seventies when the bookies had to charge around 10% tax, which I think dropped later to 8% and they very kindly let you pay the tax when you put your bet on, which was just a crafty way of getting more out of the punters.
Report tons of sobs February 1, 2019 9:42 AM GMT
Since 2003 if you had backed every odds on shot at 1/5 of shorter in h'caps you would be in clover!

26 bets    23 won    88.46%    +0.82.

25 million win on each    ..The holy grail.
Report ItsMeSwaddle February 1, 2019 12:33 PM GMT
Mouse - the holy grail has been mentioned.

Do your thing
Report BornToWin February 1, 2019 12:44 PM GMT
Zaynar was beat at Kelso a few years ago was double figures odds on I'm near certain.
Report BornToWin February 1, 2019 12:46 PM GMT
Trainer / Jockey
Age
WGT
OR
TS
RPR
MR

 

 

4. Quwetwo 12/1
Wilson Renwick
Howard Johnson
7
112
133
142
155


Took keen hold, made all, hit 1st, hit 6th, pushed along before 2 out, soon ridden and joined last, driven flat, stayed on gamely towards finish (op 11-1)

 

1

1. Zaynar (FR) 1/14F
Barry Geraghty
Nicky Henderson
5
1110
168
149
162


Tracked leading pair, headway to track leader 4th, effort 3 out, pushed along and close up next, switched left and ridden to challenge last, every chance until no extra towards finish (tchd 1-12 in places)

 

108 [100]

2. Kempski 100/1
Fearghal Davis
Rayson Nixon
10
112 p
115


Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 1, 2024 4:03 PM GMT
Wolverhampton 7th November 2013 Tweed 2/13f 2nd
Report Hayden February 1, 2024 4:34 PM GMT
Probably trained by Harris with a name like Tweed.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 1, 2024 10:24 PM GMT
anita?
Report hulk23 February 1, 2024 10:42 PM GMT
only going back 5 years instead of 10

putin ??
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 2, 2024 10:23 AM GMT
looking for marts input
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