Those rails at Cheltenham...

that tape should be the finish line like in athletics

that tape should be the finish line like in athletics

2 horses robbed in a day can’t be coincidence....seething if you’d backed either.

Can't remember any lead horse doing that previously at Chelters, now TWO today.

should have been sorted after the foxhunters years ago but they'd rather tinker with things that don't need changing

NH racing revels in being amateurish.

put up a fault rail HELLO

alun...google jane mangan foxhunter

Seen that one wonder

Festival transfer to Southwell called for.

cant be that hard to have a portable rail there surely, racing is so archaic it beggars belief

Cheers Wonders - I'd forgotten that one.

backed salisfy gj but it is unacceptable to have this

clerk of the course should be out the door with the tickets touts

just a thought but probably the horse doesnt even see a flimsy bit of tape racing @30 mph plus

I had no bet in either race and watched both races.  This is not a freak accident - the horses can't see the tapes (esp in the sun) and follow the rails - its a joke really!

Oct 26, 2018 -- 5:07PM, trooper thornton wrote:

clerk of the course should be out the door with the tickets touts

heavy watering for this fixture again...no lessons learnt from last year

Really feel for those connections there -  Do something Cheltenham FFS !

they need to remove the rail that is dolled off as it must be attracting the horses eye and thinking that is the line to run to

Just think if we have the same thing at the Cheltenham festival!!!

lets hope they don't wait until it happens in the gold cup or the QMCC before its changed

If they can put up screens in 30 seconds to stop people seeing dead horses, they can put up screens in 30 seconds to stop horses seeing dead ends.

The tout selling tickets caused that..

The problem might be the turning rail rather than the lack of a straight rail. Might be able to do without that entirely. Cheltenham is far from the only track where part of the run in is without railing.

I think this sort of thing would happen more without any railing

I can't think of many tracks where the entrance to the back straight is before the run in

Cheltenham doing racing akin to a s hitty old backwater
why not put bits of tissue up that might do it.
2 bob outfit

twice in 1 day, I hope they get their bollocks roasted

Complete and utter balls up by the course amateurish in the extreme

The whole pub on Salsify  , but I'm on Oscar Delta @25's . The roof came of the joint when she fell off . PTSD is setting in after watching todays shenanigans.

no criticism from ruk?

some clever tw4t probs gunna tell us betting IR the price includes course incompetence

Didn't see race if it's as I think it was, it actually did happen at the Festival - Oscar Delta some yeras ago in the Foxhunter - i was on big at 20/1 ....

i bet horses nearly 65 years and never seen this happen.nevermind twice in one day

The funny thing is, there was a bloke in orange holding the ribbon in the first instance, who was swearing blue murder over it - they had dispensed with him by the time of the second.

Did not a similar Thing not Happen To Jane Mangan in the 2013 FOX HUNTERS, Clearly Needs Addressing Before a Nasty Accident .

maybe the clark should stand holding that tape if he thinks its enough

I think it's as Custom Cut says. A similar thing happened at Newmarket some years ago in a stayers race on the Rowley mile course when a couple of the runners went to follow the rail that leads off it down the July course a few furlongs after the start - the winner, Tungsten Strike, and, I think, Massife Centrale who was following him. Sept 2004.

I was not on Salsify wonder! bad memories for me that race!

I think Customcut makes a good point about the turning rail. Looks like those two horses just followed it round and disregarded the tape (thats what they do day after day....follow the rail) . The smack/s on their right flank maybe added to the horse making that decision as well.

l feel ill tbh i did back the horse

I know what you're feeling....punk

2018-10-26
2018-10-26
17:04     142448406726     2018-10-26
16:52     GB Chelt 26th Oct / 16:55 3m1f Hcap Chs / Oighear Dubh
Back           24.00     10.00     Lost     (10.00)           1,563.68
17:04     142448336921     2018-10-26
16:51     GB Chelt 26th Oct / 16:55 3m1f Hcap Chs / Oighear Dubh
Back           28.00     10.00     Lost     (10.00)           1,019.68
    2018-10-26
17:04     142448322344     2018-10-26
16:51     GB Chelt 26th Oct / 16:55 3m1f Hcap Chs / Oighear Dubh
Back           28.00     10.00     Lost     (10.00)           1,029.68
    2018-10-26
17:04     142448256972     2018-10-26
16:51     GB Chelt 26th Oct / 16:55 3m1f Hcap Chs / Oighear Dubh
Back           32.60     43.00     Lost     (43.00)           1,039.68

just for the aftertime police of which i am a member

Watching the replay, the horse starts to prepare to take the bend a couple of strides before the tape. Needs some serious rethink definitely.

Jesus Christ , a two year old child can see that there’s a turning rail there , there has to be for the horses to go out into the country . What do you expect there , a set of traffic lights .

Hey alright...calm down calm down.....the tape is attached to a curved piece of the rails.(can see that in the head on view)......if that part was taken down as they go out on the final circuit.....plus say another 20-30 yards of the other plastic rail round the bend....then attach the tape to a straight piece.......we may not have had the problem.....possibly a better solution than traffic lights methinks!!

Horses are clearly getting more intelligent as the years past and remember which way they went last time. If the jockey is hitting them on the outside they are clearly thinking, I have to go round again.

Today their solution is to have men holding up bits of tape!

custom cut and co spot on ,its the turning shape of the rail at that point that's attracting the horse to follow it nothing to do with the tapes, rather worrying that about a dozen ruk pundits,half a dozen itv pundits and the cotc discussing it over 2 days ,couldn't identify this as the problem

it isn't just a turning rail ,but the turning rail for a few yards after the straight rail sends them away from the rail before luring them back towards the turn