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mickwheblembe
20 Sep 18 16:06
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When are the authorities going to scrutinise the record Jamie Spencer and the short price beaten favourites he rides that are beaten,The percentage beaten leaves a lot to be desired no wonder he did not retire?
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Report herrero • September 20, 2018 4:40 PM BST
.....and he should have won that one imho
Report hulk23 • September 20, 2018 4:48 PM BST
beyond reproach, if you ask why 3 lengths detached not just last he'll get all stroppy and walk off ....
Report adge • September 20, 2018 5:17 PM BST
you must be making fortunes laying his mounts , mick , don't tell everyone
Report mice_elf_and_eye • September 20, 2018 5:32 PM BST
If you look at the stats rather than relying on your own perception of things, you
get a more accurate picture.

Jamie Spencer results on odds-on favs for the last 10 years (Turf and A/W) :-

Total Runs    232              £1 Win SP    £-18.32    (-7.9%)
Total Wins    135    (58.2%)         £1 EW SP    £-2.74    (-0.6%)
Total Placed    185    (79.7%)         Avg Win SP    0.6-1    

Source - https://www.flatstats.co.uk/both-jockey-j-p-spencer#stats-options

Comparable stats for Ryan Moore :-

Total Runs    413              £1 Win SP    £-7.58    (-1.8%)
Total Wins    251    (60.8%)         £1 EW SP    £23.25    (3.0%)
Total Placed    340    (82.3%)         Avg Win SP    0.6-1    

Source - https://www.flatstats.co.uk/both-jockey-r-l-moore#stats-options

Only approx. 2% difference on success rates between the 2 Jockeys. Both jocks return a small
loss backing all mounts at ISP, but since those prices are the product of an overround Book,
you would expect that sort of Loss, wouldn't you?

Please note that whilst backing all Moore's odds-on mounts to win returns a small loss,
backing them each-way returns a 3% Profit!

That's totally counter-intuitive to most Punter's thinking, but sometimes it pays to do
some Research.
Report cardenden • September 20, 2018 5:59 PM BST
they should look at that race yesterday,,shocking
Report Early Morning Riser • September 20, 2018 6:30 PM BST
I would of thought that both of them rode more than them rides over the last ten years.
Report the dealer • September 20, 2018 6:34 PM BST
short price/odds on favs ?
Report mice_elf_and_eye • September 20, 2018 7:50 PM BST
The Spencer/Moore stats above are for all odds-on (SP Range 0 - 0.99) shots.
Report Facts • September 20, 2018 11:29 PM BST
OP is beaten !!
Report doantwin2easy • September 21, 2018 12:04 AM BST
Lies, damn lies and statistics.
Report equine flew • September 21, 2018 12:22 PM BST
Mice, surely it is impossible for Ryan Moore to produce a profit backing his placed odds on shots with an average Win SP of 0.6 and a strike rate of 82.3%.

The average place SP (at 1/5 odds) would be 3/25 = 0.12 ??
Report onlooker • September 21, 2018 7:26 PM BST
CLASSIC there from SPENCER -  SOUMEI 7:20 Newcastle.
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