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Starting a new thread as the forum clique have ruined the other thread.
Please can everyone keep this thread racing related only please, or I simply won't bother.
I know some people enjoy the insight and opinion I put on the forum, so please can the minority not ruin it and leave the thread alone.
£614.30 (£385.70 loss)
Monday 27th August
I am having 3 later bets on today's card.
4.00 Ripon - Kessaar - £20 Win @ 3.45 & £50 Place (1,2,3) @ 1.54
John Gosden's well bred colt was disappointing at Ascot but he got really worked up in the paddock that day, and Ascot sometimes gets to a lot of horses, and I feel that was the case for him. What he achieved winning next time at Windsor is hard to assess but he showed a lot of speed that day, and Ripon's downhill 6f could make him very hard to catch.
It was hard to give him a figure for that Windsor run but he scored a 95? on that run on the figures I use.
That run which was an improvement on both previous starts still leaves him with around 8lb to find with a couple of these but John Gosden sending one all the way to Ripon has to be respected.
Barbill is the best horse I have on figures in the race, but those runs have come over 5f, and I'm not sure 6f suits him as well. Sporting Chance who is next in, looks the opposite for me, and outpaced the last twice over 6f, I think he wants 7f. I expect him to be doing his best work late on, but suspect he will find one or two too good.
Life Of Riley is one of the most raced horses in the field and he has a lot of speed and has some solid races over 5f. I have him a similar horse to Barbill, maybe a fraction behind, and whilst he should get 6f I wouldn't say he was crying out for it. The main danger for me to the selection is Neverland Rock. The Hannon horses are in great form at present and whilst he has won over 7f, he ran a career best when 6th to land force at Godowood and had Sporting Chance just in behind. I think he should run a big race over the trip again but I personally feel the Gosden horse is open to more improvement on only his 4th start.
Kessaar has been seen on the Limekilns recently working with Legends of War and King Of Comedy and with the former running a solid 2nd running on well in the Gimcrack, I feel that Kessaar who would be an equal to Legends Of War at home, has enough scope to make the improvement needed to win this.
He is a solid win bet with a place saver for me.
4.15 Epsom - Gabrial - £10 Win @ 4.7 / £40 3 Place @ 1.38
With Willie John a non runner and the ground riding on the slow side, this 10f race has a, taken a weaker look to it, and b, started to look like it will be a stamina test.
Sovereign Debt can be expected to run his usual race on a track that suits and Coonect who heads the market has to be respected having beat the progressive Court House on Derby day.
That said Gabrial is a horse who never runs a bad race, will appreciate the decent gallop, handles the ground and is always doing his best work late. Now his wins are few and far between but on ground he may prefer more than his rivals and in receipt of 5lb off Sovereign Debt he looks quite well in on official ratings.
I see no way he can be out the 3, so our 3 place bet protects our win stake, but I fancy this could be the day he gets his head in front.
4.35 Ripon - Mikmak - £15 Win @ 5.0 & £40 4 Place @ 1.55
I thought this horse was a little unlucky when 2nd last time behind the O'Meara horse he is up against again today, and he was ridden to hit the front late last time, and no sooner than he hit the front, he seemed to ease up in his stride, and the O'Meara horse picked him up literally on the line.
He has a 2lb pull with the O'Meara horse today and I think the two of them will fight the race out again today but I feel Waariff was lucky in not getting the run when he wanted it last time and meaning he could make a late attack on Mikmak. Today I don't think his rider will be so alert to that tactic and I expect David Allan to ride a more patient race today on Mikmak and produce him later and in doing that he can turn the form around.
If he doesn't , I can't see him out the frame, so still feel there is good value to be had in covering our bet in the enhanced place market.
£175.00 Staked
Good Luck
Starting a new thread as the forum clique have ruined the other thread.
Please can everyone keep this thread racing related only please, or I simply won't bother.
I know some people enjoy the insight and opinion I put on the forum, so please can the minority not ruin it and leave the thread alone.
£614.30 (£385.70 loss)
Monday 27th August
I am having 3 later bets on today's card.
4.00 Ripon - Kessaar - £20 Win @ 3.45 & £50 Place (1,2,3) @ 1.54
John Gosden's well bred colt was disappointing at Ascot but he got really worked up in the paddock that day, and Ascot sometimes gets to a lot of horses, and I feel that was the case for him. What he achieved winning next time at Windsor is hard to assess but he showed a lot of speed that day, and Ripon's downhill 6f could make him very hard to catch.
It was hard to give him a figure for that Windsor run but he scored a 95? on that run on the figures I use.
That run which was an improvement on both previous starts still leaves him with around 8lb to find with a couple of these but John Gosden sending one all the way to Ripon has to be respected.
Barbill is the best horse I have on figures in the race, but those runs have come over 5f, and I'm not sure 6f suits him as well. Sporting Chance who is next in, looks the opposite for me, and outpaced the last twice over 6f, I think he wants 7f. I expect him to be doing his best work late on, but suspect he will find one or two too good.
Life Of Riley is one of the most raced horses in the field and he has a lot of speed and has some solid races over 5f. I have him a similar horse to Barbill, maybe a fraction behind, and whilst he should get 6f I wouldn't say he was crying out for it. The main danger for me to the selection is Neverland Rock. The Hannon horses are in great form at present and whilst he has won over 7f, he ran a career best when 6th to land force at Godowood and had Sporting Chance just in behind. I think he should run a big race over the trip again but I personally feel the Gosden horse is open to more improvement on only his 4th start.
Kessaar has been seen on the Limekilns recently working with Legends of War and King Of Comedy and with the former running a solid 2nd running on well in the Gimcrack, I feel that Kessaar who would be an equal to Legends Of War at home, has enough scope to make the improvement needed to win this.
He is a solid win bet with a place saver for me.
4.15 Epsom - Gabrial - £10 Win @ 4.7 / £40 3 Place @ 1.38
With Willie John a non runner and the ground riding on the slow side, this 10f race has a, taken a weaker look to it, and b, started to look like it will be a stamina test.
Sovereign Debt can be expected to run his usual race on a track that suits and Coonect who heads the market has to be respected having beat the progressive Court House on Derby day.
That said Gabrial is a horse who never runs a bad race, will appreciate the decent gallop, handles the ground and is always doing his best work late. Now his wins are few and far between but on ground he may prefer more than his rivals and in receipt of 5lb off Sovereign Debt he looks quite well in on official ratings.
I see no way he can be out the 3, so our 3 place bet protects our win stake, but I fancy this could be the day he gets his head in front.
4.35 Ripon - Mikmak - £15 Win @ 5.0 & £40 4 Place @ 1.55
I thought this horse was a little unlucky when 2nd last time behind the O'Meara horse he is up against again today, and he was ridden to hit the front late last time, and no sooner than he hit the front, he seemed to ease up in his stride, and the O'Meara horse picked him up literally on the line.
He has a 2lb pull with the O'Meara horse today and I think the two of them will fight the race out again today but I feel Waariff was lucky in not getting the run when he wanted it last time and meaning he could make a late attack on Mikmak. Today I don't think his rider will be so alert to that tactic and I expect David Allan to ride a more patient race today on Mikmak and produce him later and in doing that he can turn the form around.
If he doesn't , I can't see him out the frame, so still feel there is good value to be had in covering our bet in the enhanced place market.
£175.00 Staked
Good Luck
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Aug 29, 2018 -- 6:10PM, EastLower Gooner wrote:
Lol PMSLAll these big boys talking the talk but no one actually wanting to settle this in a ring. C’mom lads pretty sure Betfair will do a market for this too. All I know is if someone calls me a little bit ch and says he’s going to put me in a grave then we going to be throwing hands.
No credibility beating up a midget imo. unless you are one too of course.
Charlton....I’m a big welterweight ie a shade small for MW.
Still keep myself in good shape.
—
Speaking about the International stuff...saw a horse over the weekend I’m smitten with...Catalina Cruiser. YouTube this chap.
Absolute weapon of a horse. Big like Curlin (tall with muscles for days) but moves like a rolls Royce on dirt. I was going to back him for the Classic but connections have Accelerate so it’s the Dirt Mile and then the Pegasus.
I will definitely back him on Breeders Cup day....will no doubt mention him again on the day.
Still keep myself in good shape.
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Speaking about the International stuff...saw a horse over the weekend I’m smitten with...Catalina Cruiser. YouTube this chap.
Absolute weapon of a horse. Big like Curlin (tall with muscles for days) but moves like a rolls Royce on dirt. I was going to back him for the Classic but connections have Accelerate so it’s the Dirt Mile and then the Pegasus.
I will definitely back him on Breeders Cup day....will no doubt mention him again on the day.
6ft 17st..but they have maybe got a age advantage..but who knows..they both couldnt lie straight in bed.
Denzil - Domino was pretty much open to the idea...even started the pre fight smack talk further up. Said if he meets Willie in the squared circle then he’s putting him in a grave.
I know he's been saying similar for weeks wind and pi$$ is my opinion.
thx elg i will keep a look out
i was 147 at school, now 185 :(
i should use you as an example to try and make 160 maybe
i was 147 at school, now 185 :(
i should use you as an example to try and make 160 maybe
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6ft 17st..but they have maybe got a age advantage..but who knows..they both couldnt lie straight in bed.
no beer belly
6ft 17st..but they have maybe got a age advantage..but who knows..they both couldnt lie straight in bed.
no beer belly
someone was ringing me one night last weeks numerous times and kept saying 'stand and deliver' i kept saying you have the wrong number mate.
but he was adamant.
but he was adamant.
Aug 29, 2018 -- 7:02PM, Willie Shafter. wrote:
someone was ringing me one night last weeks numerous times and kept saying 'stand and deliver' i kept saying you have the wrong number mate.but he was adamant.
old old old ,,no its not old,, its ancient
Schools start back next week so why not have a conker fight.
Aug 29, 2018 -- 7:12PM, GHOSTOFALEXBIRD wrote:
I'm confused is Bristol in scotland
Exactly where he's been caught telling porkies again ghost..bristol...ha ha ha I know where he got bristol though..Andrew posted he came from Bristol the other day .and want shaft has got mixed up when he was editing that message and put in Bristol. Instead of Scotland. .he's a joke
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no idea cardy..you tell me.
no idea cardy..you tell me.
I really feel sorry for you Willie
.making up pm.s now it's Andrew that comes from Bristol not me ..I'm in Scotland. .you are caught lying again.will.
.making up pm.s now it's Andrew that comes from Bristol not me ..I'm in Scotland. .you are caught lying again.will.
Guys, just to clarify .....
I'm not from Bristol, but lived there for 2 years after leaving my beloved Cornwall where i was born and raised for 11 ish years
I'm not from Bristol, but lived there for 2 years after leaving my beloved Cornwall where i was born and raised for 11 ish years
I think you mentioned bristol the other day Andrew. Willie must have thought I posted something about Bristol. And he has been caught lying .editing messages it's a change from editing his place. But he's an expert at editing..
doesnt cardy realise what a screenshot is? or is it an act.
Andrew in Sweden 28 Aug 18 18:43
willie,
I totally agree with your 2nd line, it was way out of order and no doubt i would feel exactly the same if i was on the receiving end.
dom..
answer my question then i'll drop it.
you stated you didnt pay for isiris..then said you did pay for it.
you said you have moved into a 4 bed house..then said 3 bed apartment.
there are 2 lies there alone,amongst others.
why did you feel the need to lie to the forum?
why did you say you've accessed the national database and it stated im a peado?
blatant lies.
just a simple clarification will suffice dom..im waiting.
still...£540.40 (£459.60 loss) Tuesday 28th August
willie,
I totally agree with your 2nd line, it was way out of order and no doubt i would feel exactly the same if i was on the receiving end.
dom..
answer my question then i'll drop it.
you stated you didnt pay for isiris..then said you did pay for it.
you said you have moved into a 4 bed house..then said 3 bed apartment.
there are 2 lies there alone,amongst others.
why did you feel the need to lie to the forum?
why did you say you've accessed the national database and it stated im a peado?
blatant lies.
just a simple clarification will suffice dom..im waiting.
still...£540.40 (£459.60 loss) Tuesday 28th August
The best way to get back at Dom is to let him post his analysis and selections while professing to be the font of all horse racing knowledge - then we can all point and laugh when he makes a total pigs ear of it. See Andrews thread yesterday for more comedy gold.
Without characters like Dom the world would be a dull old place.
That boy's box office.
That boy's box office.
is this fred finished????????????????????????????????????????????????//
Andrew in Sweden 28 Aug 18 18:43
willie,
I totally agree with your 2nd line, it was way out of order and no doubt i would feel exactly the same if i was on the receiving end.
dom..
answer my question then i'll drop it.
you stated you didnt pay for isiris..then said you did pay for it.
you said you have moved into a 4 bed house..then said 3 bed apartment.
there are 2 lies there alone,amongst others.
why did you feel the need to lie to the forum?
why did you say you've accessed the national database and it stated im a peado?
blatant lies.
just a simple clarification will suffice dom..im waiting.
still...£540.40 (£459.60 loss) Tuesday 28th August
willie,
I totally agree with your 2nd line, it was way out of order and no doubt i would feel exactly the same if i was on the receiving end.
dom..
answer my question then i'll drop it.
you stated you didnt pay for isiris..then said you did pay for it.
you said you have moved into a 4 bed house..then said 3 bed apartment.
there are 2 lies there alone,amongst others.
why did you feel the need to lie to the forum?
why did you say you've accessed the national database and it stated im a peado?
blatant lies.
just a simple clarification will suffice dom..im waiting.
still...£540.40 (£459.60 loss) Tuesday 28th August
Oh for God sake Willie, if to just shut you up.
Yes I bought Isiris for a 6 month membership and it was awful and I lost a fair whack of money.
Yes we live in a ground floor apartment on Old Brompton Road in Chelsea, (it could have 3 or 4 bedrooms, depending how you look at it, but one is a box room and I use as an office)
I didn't actually say you were a Paedo, but I just made rhymes about you to wind you up. I'm sure you're not a paedo but you can be an annoying prick.
Now do as you please, can't be doing with your mind games and nonsense.
Yes I bought Isiris for a 6 month membership and it was awful and I lost a fair whack of money.
Yes we live in a ground floor apartment on Old Brompton Road in Chelsea, (it could have 3 or 4 bedrooms, depending how you look at it, but one is a box room and I use as an office)
I didn't actually say you were a Paedo, but I just made rhymes about you to wind you up. I'm sure you're not a paedo but you can be an annoying prick.
Now do as you please, can't be doing with your mind games and nonsense.
Aug 30, 2018 -- 6:06PM, Willie Shafter. wrote:
csardy has got all rolf harris's albums.
thats it wullie ,,have a laugh about it,, better than being a bitter auld c,,t all your life,,
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I understand domino takes some flak, but giving up is a defeatist option.
Domino
"Yes we live in a ground floor apartment on Old Brompton Road in Chelsea"
Pooles Lane or Old Bromptom Road ???
They are about a mile apart.
"Yes we live in a ground floor apartment on Old Brompton Road in Chelsea"
Pooles Lane or Old Bromptom Road ???
They are about a mile apart.
back to racing Dom - for you ??- I was on Grey galleon / Amelia G - claim 7lb
I have a dumb theory that women are not as good in sprint races (5f) - as they can't fire horses out as well as guys / lesser strength etc
get bad position , poor start & muscled out of it - I would love to know women's stats on sprint races (pro rata to 7F plus) where breaking well might not be so important - do you think there is anything in this or total b*llocks
as a rider - just interested in your opinion
I have a dumb theory that women are not as good in sprint races (5f) - as they can't fire horses out as well as guys / lesser strength etc
get bad position , poor start & muscled out of it - I would love to know women's stats on sprint races (pro rata to 7F plus) where breaking well might not be so important - do you think there is anything in this or total b*llocks
as a rider - just interested in your opinion
this was the horse i tipped up last fri..with no penalty should have gone close..was always on back foot after 1f when found its self last..was still poor after though.
domino14 30 Aug 18 17:49
Yes we live in a ground floor apartment on Old Brompton Road in Chelsea
Oldgit1 28 Aug 18 20:22
I've just agreed the purchase of a house in Poole's Lane in Chelsea and will be completed within 3 weeks
moved twice in a mth imo.
Yes we live in a ground floor apartment on Old Brompton Road in Chelsea
Oldgit1 28 Aug 18 20:22
I've just agreed the purchase of a house in Poole's Lane in Chelsea and will be completed within 3 weeks
moved twice in a mth imo.
appreciate response Willie - but do you think women are worse at sprints kind of thing - this is not an inflammatory thread ,sexist or anything else
just interested in people views - regarding lesser strength & actioning a fast response from an animal when it counts
just interested in people views - regarding lesser strength & actioning a fast response from an animal when it counts
she rode it really well last fri..today looked a diff outfit.
fredlyn 31 Aug 18 14:22 Joined: 25 Jul 16 | Topic/replies: 630 | Blogger: fredlyn's blog
back to racing Dom - for you ??- I was on Grey galleon / Amelia G - claim 7lb
I have a dumb theory that women are not as good in sprint races (5f) - as they can't fire horses out as well as guys / lesser strength etc
get bad position , poor start & muscled out of it - I would love to know women's stats on sprint races (pro rata to 7F plus) where breaking well might not be so important - do you think there is anything in this or total b*llocks
as a rider - just interested in your opinion
I can't speak from stats, but my own opinion is you will find most females apprentices are attached to smaller yards, some in bigger yards who make it will get less rides on Sprinters because sprinters don't tend to be trained by bigger trainers however a mute point for you could be;
Adele Rothery / Mulrennan - Winner on a lot of sprinters for Dandy
Amy Ryan - Won a few big sprints for her father
Rachel Richardson - Wins on sprinters for her father
Georgia Cox - Two biggest wins of her career in sprints
Amy Scott - Partnered a horse called Seamus Shindig to numerous big sprint handicaps
Hayley Turner - Group 1 winning 6f rider
Kirsty M - Rode a lot of sprint winners for Christine Dunnett
Milly Naseb - Often a go to rider for Stuart Williams when the money is down (that speaks volumes for me), and has established some good partnerships in the yard notably with Welease Bwian who was yes, a sprinter.
This is just a small sample, so I would say on personal opinion, I see no reason to think lady riders are worse in sprints, if anything their best days in the sun have often come on sprinters. Some female jockeys are strong, some are not but they will sit quieter than most lads, and a lot of sprint horses are quirky and needed to be kidded into a race, so as a result, may run better for a girl.
I remember a trainer once at Lingfield telling Kieren Fallon they booked him because he rides like a girl, the paddock was nearly empty and every connection and jockey heard it, at the time Kieren didn't look pleased, but the trainer merely meant he sat quiet on a horse, and got it rolling and progressing without the horse knowing it was in a race and it would run for him. It didn't stop many of us calling Kieren Kiera for the rest of the day after it won though.
back to racing Dom - for you ??- I was on Grey galleon / Amelia G - claim 7lb
I have a dumb theory that women are not as good in sprint races (5f) - as they can't fire horses out as well as guys / lesser strength etc
get bad position , poor start & muscled out of it - I would love to know women's stats on sprint races (pro rata to 7F plus) where breaking well might not be so important - do you think there is anything in this or total b*llocks
as a rider - just interested in your opinion
I can't speak from stats, but my own opinion is you will find most females apprentices are attached to smaller yards, some in bigger yards who make it will get less rides on Sprinters because sprinters don't tend to be trained by bigger trainers however a mute point for you could be;
Adele Rothery / Mulrennan - Winner on a lot of sprinters for Dandy
Amy Ryan - Won a few big sprints for her father
Rachel Richardson - Wins on sprinters for her father
Georgia Cox - Two biggest wins of her career in sprints
Amy Scott - Partnered a horse called Seamus Shindig to numerous big sprint handicaps
Hayley Turner - Group 1 winning 6f rider
Kirsty M - Rode a lot of sprint winners for Christine Dunnett
Milly Naseb - Often a go to rider for Stuart Williams when the money is down (that speaks volumes for me), and has established some good partnerships in the yard notably with Welease Bwian who was yes, a sprinter.
This is just a small sample, so I would say on personal opinion, I see no reason to think lady riders are worse in sprints, if anything their best days in the sun have often come on sprinters. Some female jockeys are strong, some are not but they will sit quieter than most lads, and a lot of sprint horses are quirky and needed to be kidded into a race, so as a result, may run better for a girl.
I remember a trainer once at Lingfield telling Kieren Fallon they booked him because he rides like a girl, the paddock was nearly empty and every connection and jockey heard it, at the time Kieren didn't look pleased, but the trainer merely meant he sat quiet on a horse, and got it rolling and progressing without the horse knowing it was in a race and it would run for him. It didn't stop many of us calling Kieren Kiera for the rest of the day after it won though.
because sprinters don't tend to be trained by bigger trainers
To be fair to Dom, what he probably meant but didn't articulate was that the bigger trainers would focus more on milers, 10f horses and the Classics.
Johnny,
Sure, hence the wink, but he's forgiven
Sure, hence the wink, but he's forgiven
Exactly my point Johnny, unless the sprinter is going to be group class, the bigger trainers all want Classic potential horses, not handicappers and the better handicaps for smaller trainers tend to be 5-7f.
How did you not make your own Top 12, for being a complete and utter buffoon with zero intelligence and a waste of Oxygen.
Still laughing at this gem
Still laughing at this gem
Guys - cheers all & to you Dom - feel enlightened now
much prefer it when people give you a straight answer to a straight question
rather than swinging verbal haymakers at each other whilst on some personal vendetta
can't see what it achieves.
much prefer it when people give you a straight answer to a straight question
rather than swinging verbal haymakers at each other whilst on some personal vendetta
can't see what it achieves.
domino would not get as much stick as he does if he didn't do things like suggest that some unraced two year old was better than frankel.
frankel, arguably the best flat turf horse that's ever lived.
frankel, arguably the best flat turf horse that's ever lived.
Domino:
" I remember a trainer once at Lingfield telling Kieren Fallon they booked him because he rides like a girl, the paddock was nearly empty and every connection and jockey heard it, at the time Kieren didn't look pleased, but the trainer merely meant he sat quiet on a horse, and got it rolling and progressing without the horse knowing it was in a race and it would run for him. It didn't stop many of us calling Kieren Kiera for the rest of the day after it won though"
Kevin Darley said of female jockeys when doing a tribute to Alex Greaves the first Female Group 1 winning female jockey:
"Female jockeys are like a quiet man jockey, really. They might not be as strong but they get on with some of the horses better than maybe a man would, so I think there's plusses and minuses to it."
" I remember a trainer once at Lingfield telling Kieren Fallon they booked him because he rides like a girl, the paddock was nearly empty and every connection and jockey heard it, at the time Kieren didn't look pleased, but the trainer merely meant he sat quiet on a horse, and got it rolling and progressing without the horse knowing it was in a race and it would run for him. It didn't stop many of us calling Kieren Kiera for the rest of the day after it won though"
Kevin Darley said of female jockeys when doing a tribute to Alex Greaves the first Female Group 1 winning female jockey:
"Female jockeys are like a quiet man jockey, really. They might not be as strong but they get on with some of the horses better than maybe a man would, so I think there's plusses and minuses to it."
Sweetnsour
" what was double blanks riding name- anyone "
I think we should be told !
" what was double blanks riding name- anyone "
I think we should be told !
sweetnsour.
" any bets today double 6 "
No, he's chapping.
" any bets today double 6 "
No, he's chapping.
domino14 01 Sep 18 15:45
My untruths ? I've not put any untruths
My untruths ? I've not put any untruths
domino14 30 Aug 18 17:49
Yes we live in a ground floor apartment on Old Brompton Road in Chelsea
Oldgit1 28 Aug 18 20:22
I've just agreed the purchase of a house in Poole's Lane in Chelsea and will be completed within 3 weeks
Yes we live in a ground floor apartment on Old Brompton Road in Chelsea
Oldgit1 28 Aug 18 20:22
I've just agreed the purchase of a house in Poole's Lane in Chelsea and will be completed within 3 weeks
domino14 01 Sep 18 17:48
2018-09-01
17:42 135975694635 2018-09-01
17:15 GB Chest 1st Sep / 17:35 4 TBP / Project Bluebook
Back 1.39 104.00 Won 44.87
Andrew in Sweden 01 Sep 18 18:12
£104 on a 1.39 wins £40.56p
Correct
2018-09-01
17:42 135975694635 2018-09-01
17:15 GB Chest 1st Sep / 17:35 4 TBP / Project Bluebook
Back 1.39 104.00 Won 44.87
Andrew in Sweden 01 Sep 18 18:12
£104 on a 1.39 wins £40.56p
Correct
oh lordy, somethings rotten in the state of denmark
this thread finished now? -50% in 4 weeks and all over?
Thread withdrawn, Wonga no longer in existence to underwrite losses
domino14 01 Sep 18 15:45
My untruths ? I've not put any untruths
My untruths ? I've not put any untruths
no untruths dom? oh dear
when is this thread starting up again?
when is this thread starting up again?
it seems the pack have found a new prey.
v.sad,more a reflection on themselves more than anything.
v.sad,more a reflection on themselves more than anything.
domino14 03 Sep 18 16:05
Result will stand, Mosse is trying to hold the winner in, and got outmuscled. No riding offence, no interference and neither horse lost momentum. Result will stand.
domino14 03 Sep 18 16:20
Amended result, I'm surprised.
Result will stand, Mosse is trying to hold the winner in, and got outmuscled. No riding offence, no interference and neither horse lost momentum. Result will stand.
domino14 03 Sep 18 16:20
Amended result, I'm surprised.
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