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weight problem with winner and looking at interference between 2nd and 3rd. Surprised

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By:
alun2005
When: 12 Aug 18 15:41
Been paid out here on  a Reversal
By:
jmdc
When: 12 Aug 18 15:41
It's settled Willie!
By:
alun2005
When: 12 Aug 18 15:42
A J C Group, Newcastle Handicap Hurdle (80-95)
2m 2f 165y, Yielding
9 Runners
Winner€6,160.002nd€1,910.003rd€910.004th€410.005th€160.00
Surface: Turf
Result amended following stewards enquiry
Weighed In
RacecardResult
Winning time:4m 43.3sOff time:15:15:29
1st

1
7
Lleyton
611-3
9/2
T: J R FinnJ: B J Geraghty op 7/2

My Stable
2nd

1 ¾
8
Blue Skimmer
611-2
10/3j
T: J J LambeJ: L A McKenna (7)op 4/1

My Stable
3rd

5 ½
11
Lusis Naturea
711-0
12/1
T: Eoin BarryJ: Ms K Ferris (7)

My Stable
4th

5 ½
10
Ciaoifsin
911-0
11/2
T: J P FaheyJ: I J McCarthy

My Stable
5th

¾
1
Maighnealta
911-11
10/1
T: D McDonoghJ: A E Lynch op 8/1

My Stable
6th

¾
5
Global Racing
511-6
10/3j
T: J J HanlonJ: M A Enright op 7/2 tchd 3/1

My Stable
7th

88
9
Reddot Dancer
511-2
25/1
T: L YoungJ: R P Treacy (3)

My Stable
8th

4
Muroor
511-8
8/1
T: T G McCourtJ: C D Maxwell
By:
onlooker
When: 12 Aug 18 15:43
Downpatrick 15:15 Keep The Race? ... Matched: GBP 0 ... Refresh 2 sec

SUSPENDED
By:
Wicklow
When: 12 Aug 18 15:44
was there much matched at the max on the runer up? or did the late swoop by the DQ'd winner save them? nasty anyhow.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 12 Aug 18 15:44
Weighed In
RacecardResult
Winning time:4m 43.3sOff time:15:15:29
1st

1
7
Lleyton
611-3
9/2
T: J R FinnJ: B J Geraghty op 7/2

My Stable
2nd

1 ¾
8
Blue Skimmer
611-2
10/3j
T: J J LambeJ: L A McKenna (7)op 4/1

My Stable
3rd

5 ½
11
Lusis Naturea
711-0
12/1
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 12 Aug 18 15:45
jmdc    12 Aug 18 15:41 
It's settled Willie!

wouldnt make any difference.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 12 Aug 18 15:47
original winner disq...how they didnt disq the 2nd as well is suprising.
By:
jamesdean
When: 12 Aug 18 15:48
-540 swing here, didnt even know there was a stewards
By:
Wicklow
When: 12 Aug 18 15:48
true it hammered the other one on the rail on the run in.
By:
casemoney
When: 12 Aug 18 15:49
Shocked  HTF has that Got settled Looked a definate Stewards  2nd and 3rd Never Mind the weigh in
By:
Wicklow
When: 12 Aug 18 15:50
very unfortunate JD - a nasty swing on a quiet day with horible tracks
By:
bookmatch
When: 12 Aug 18 15:52
Was the first passed the post DQ for weighing in light?
By:
domino14
When: 12 Aug 18 15:52
Yes bookmatch,
By:
jamesdean
When: 12 Aug 18 15:58
Had bet the winner and laid the 2nd. To get the winner dq for weighing in light is one thing
but for the 2nd then to get the race after hammering the 3rd on run in is a right double kick in the nads
By:
stewarty b
When: 12 Aug 18 16:03
Rotten luck james. I would be fuming. Weighing in light? Unbelievable and punters who backed the 'winner' in the shops wont get paid out double result.
By:
cotswolds
When: 12 Aug 18 16:05
amazing how much money was available to bet the "winner" on the run in , makes you wonder sometimes.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 12 Aug 18 16:06
must have went 1.01 tho?
By:
handtorofe
When: 12 Aug 18 16:09
Words u must dread willie objection clerk of the scales
By:
Gerald the Show Pony
When: 12 Aug 18 16:09
This feels very dodgy
By:
cotswolds
When: 12 Aug 18 16:10
yes willie it did, but plenty there at bigger than normal as it went clear
By:
minardi
When: 12 Aug 18 16:14
its been posted before that one day one will run deliberately under weight and those in the know will lay the 1.01 on the run in. Could this have been such a plot ?
By:
RacingLuck
When: 12 Aug 18 16:16
Luck is on my side today so as i only got in at 3:45, I would of been done for bout 3k id say. Horrible way to lose!

Horse Racing: £29.97  Total P&L:  £29.97

Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 3 of 3 markets
Market    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Curr 12th Aug : 6f Grp3    12-Aug-18 16:10    12-Aug-18 16:12    16.54
Horse Racing / Wind 12th Aug : 1m Hcap    12-Aug-18 16:00    12-Aug-18 16:08    13.43
Horse Racing / DownP 12th Aug : 2m6f Hcap Hrd    12-Aug-18 15:50    12-Aug-18 15:56    0.00
By:
chavman
When: 12 Aug 18 16:16
a situation massively open to corruption
By:
stewarty b
When: 12 Aug 18 16:21
a situation massively open to corruption




Disagree chavers. Not huge liquidity in the race and a rare occurrence.
By:
kavvie
When: 12 Aug 18 16:30
didnt happen for years as far as i remember?
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 12 Aug 18 16:32
its been a while since winner weighed in light..not yrs tho.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 12 Aug 18 16:33
Horse Racing > DownP 12th Aug : 2m3f Hcap Hrd    Showing 1 - 5 of 5 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Blue Skimmer    5.00    2.00    Back    12-Aug-18 15:16    -2.00
Blue Skimmer    *    139.58    10.90    Lay         10.90
Ciaoifsin    264.89    3.99    Lay    12-Aug-18 15:19    3.99
Lusis Naturea    *    457.53    18.25    Lay         18.25
Maighnealta    760.00    0.03    Lay    12-Aug-18 15:19    0.03
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    -2.00
Lay subtotal:    33.17
Market subtotal:    31.17
Commission @ 2.69%:    0.84
Net Market Total:    30.33
By:
RacingLuck
When: 12 Aug 18 16:38
Did you not click the 2nd willie? I 100% would ofCrazy Or was prices gone?
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 12 Aug 18 16:39
the 2nd nearly put the 3rd through the rail over 1 out..so didnt lay it just in case.
By:
RacingLuck
When: 12 Aug 18 16:42
Fair play nice discipline
By:
handtorofe
When: 12 Aug 18 16:51
Would of thought that was all the more reason to lay it willie the way u and racing play,a lucky escape nonetheless.
By:
RacingLuck
When: 12 Aug 18 16:55
Yeah actually when i think about it id defo be laying the 2nd because as u said nearly put the 3rd through the rail so it be the 3rd horse you wouldn't be clicking
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 12 Aug 18 16:56
yes in hindsight you're correct..maybe i just seen trouble and ignored that particular horse.
By:
RacingLuck
When: 12 Aug 18 16:58
Suppose sometimes i do leave few horses go aswel when i could click! nice dodge anyway
By:
dave1357
When: 12 Aug 18 16:59

Aug 12, 2018 -- 4:21PM, stewarty b wrote:


a situation massively open to corruptionDisagree chavers. Not huge liquidity in the race and a rare occurrence.


well if it hardly ever happens it won't be much of an inconvenience to make all in running bets void when it does happen.  And this obviously deals with any moral hazard.

By:
stewarty b
When: 12 Aug 18 17:02
it won't be much of an inconvenience to make all in running bets void when it does happen


You would have to take that one up with BF. But imo......no chance.
By:
minardi
When: 12 Aug 18 17:03
Yes that's an answer dave - remove any possible loopholes.
By:
jimeen
When: 12 Aug 18 18:07
What a load of bolllxx from Willie , he didn’t lay the second because it had hampered the third. He didn’t lay it because he hasn’t got two bob , that’s why he didn’t lay it
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