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30 Jul 18 23:09
Date Joined: 05 Oct 11
| Topic/replies: 13,596 | Blogger: differentdrum's blog
So no surprise if this bombs tomorrow as so many do that look a little bit too obvious.
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Report madhatter July 31, 2018 1:48 AM BST
They've opened a 3 places market on this race (like they used to do with all 7 runner races) but it seems to be a one-off gesture as the 7 runner handicaps at Yarmouth and Beverly don't have those markets
Report hardestgame July 31, 2018 2:29 AM BST
its a pricewise
Report acey deucy July 31, 2018 8:06 AM BST
Your right each way bets to nothing usually end up as just that....Nothing.
Report asparagus July 31, 2018 8:21 AM BST
A bit daft to call it an each way bet to nothing. Its 7 runners for a start so two places. It's evens and 11/10 with the 2 firms betting without the favourite so they hardly think it's a guaranteed bet to beat the rest. I think 4/1 is overpriced and it has got a good chance but it's certainly not an each way bet to nothing.
Report acey deucy July 31, 2018 8:27 AM BST
I wont be looking past the fav 4-7 looks looks more than good enough for me.
Report johnnyrant July 31, 2018 9:35 AM BST
Strad looks vulnerable to me. He doesn't want soft ground & they've had more rain overnight.
Report differentdrum July 31, 2018 10:04 AM BST
That looked an improved effort from Torcedor last time. Quite possible with another furlong he would have got back up.

Consequently, I think the drop back in trip is more of a benefit to the favourite and he is also proven on the track. I can see Torcedor being ridden to beat the favourite and something else picking up the pieces.

Asparagus, if anything is daft it is your analysis of the prices. If Torcedor was 1/6 without the favourite he isn't going to be an each-way bet to nothing in the inclusive market. I did add a question mark but even if you don't many will view Torcedor as a bet to nothing.
Report acey deucy July 31, 2018 10:11 AM BST
I will be gobsmacked if the fav gets beaten,it was god to soft in the Leger where he ran a cracker plus he won the race last year....As close to a Cert as you will get imo.
Report madhatter July 31, 2018 10:47 AM BST
You could just back Torcedor in the 3 place market at around 1.4
40% interest on your money in about three and a half minutes?
You dont get that in a bank!DevilGrin
Report portmanpark July 31, 2018 10:51 AM BST
Idaho would be a huge danger if he stayed.
Report stu July 31, 2018 11:03 AM BST
Too many questions against Idaho - poor form recent, and big question over stamina especially on this ground. Big lay for me Idaho.
Report asparagus July 31, 2018 11:05 AM BST
Different Drum , you just don't seem to have grasped what a 'bet to nothing' is. The phrase is suggesting very little risk on the place part of an each way bet. Clearly there is. I can assure you my analysis of the prices is spot on.
Report portmanpark July 31, 2018 11:11 AM BST
stu............he looks outpaced at 12f.Dangerous lay at 12\1.
Report stu July 31, 2018 11:31 AM BST
Yet to prove he stays this far against high class stayers, not a good price for me at anywhere near 12's personally.
Report stu July 31, 2018 11:32 AM BST
Plus, I don't think the softer ground helps him either.
Report paddy1 July 31, 2018 11:35 AM BST
fav drifting.... getting to be a too good a price

what do we read into that?

stable usually knows time of day
Report Platini July 31, 2018 12:18 PM BST
If you fancy the 2nd fav, back it with Patricks. (money back if Stradivarius wins).
Report differentdrum July 31, 2018 3:43 PM BST
Finely judged ride from O'Donoghue or didn't go fast enough? I would be in the didn't go fast enough camp.
Report stu July 31, 2018 3:51 PM BST
Free bets all round at Paddies then...Happy
Report madhatter July 31, 2018 6:55 PM BST
I'm just happy with about 35% profit on my 3 places market bet on Torcedor.
A lot of people overthink things and make the whole gambling process a lot more difficult for themselves than it needs to be.
Report stu August 1, 2018 11:26 AM BST
Apols in advance for the aftertime, but I landed a 7-1 shot for the free bet, ta Paddies!
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