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Report TheFear July 27, 2018 2:57 PM BST
very surprising to me, seems a hasty decision
Report Deltâ July 27, 2018 2:57 PM BST
2010 thread?
Report wondersobright July 27, 2018 2:58 PM BST
sounded like his heart wasn't in it imo
Report domino14 July 27, 2018 2:59 PM BST
I would imagine he's juts a bit annoyed. Had 6 horses injure themselves on gallops in last few weeks. Has to commit to long term lease on yard if he wants to stay. Now with horses getting injured, can't bring himself to train the horses for autumn campaigns worried they will get injured. He was always a horseman and horseman make poor trainers, sadly the best trainers treat it like a production line and survival of the fittest.
Report TheFear July 27, 2018 2:59 PM BST
blaming the weather? I mean cmon :/
Report onlooker July 27, 2018 3:04 PM BST
Seemed quite capable to me  - Strike rate no worse than many others at 10%

Had a few gambles go amiss this year, though.

Comes from a long-line of racing people - Former jockey Eddie Hide, possibly great Uncle - his own family line traces back to generations of the Leader family - Ted and Harvey being well-known trainers in Newmarket
Report Deltâ July 27, 2018 3:05 PM BST
^ + Tony
Report TheFear July 27, 2018 3:06 PM BST
he was a jockey to be wary of (in my opinion) so im surprised he hasnt been able to transfer that to training. Ditto Barry F.
Report knot in wood July 27, 2018 3:08 PM BST
he never recovered after delta said bergholt would win the triumph hurdle.
Report Deltâ July 27, 2018 3:09 PM BST
Laugh
Report domino14 July 27, 2018 3:09 PM BST
The RP article reads more as a poor me type article. I suspect within a year he'll be back training somewhere for someone.
Report acey deucy July 27, 2018 3:50 PM BST
Surprised to hear that news.....More Luck than anything in this game and he never got much of it.
Report Twoboyz July 27, 2018 3:51 PM BST
I agree with Dom. Looking for a backer i reckon
Report workrider July 27, 2018 3:52 PM BST
True regards luck Acey, if you don't have it or if its of the other kind you're done for!
Report acey deucy July 27, 2018 3:53 PM BST
Tell me about it workrider.Sad
Report knot in wood July 27, 2018 4:04 PM BST
he reminds me of his former guvnor's son nick gifford, as the odd winner at fontwell or plunpton but in general is a underachiever for whatever reason.
Report mrcombustible July 27, 2018 5:56 PM BST
Domino with your connections I am very surprised you did not know this about a month ago.
The dogs have been barking this at the racecourse for the last few weeks.
Report domino14 July 27, 2018 6:27 PM BST
Don't know Philip and not much interest in his career tbh. I'm a flat man and he is mainly jumps.
Report mrcombustible July 27, 2018 7:14 PM BST
You are full of ****
last 5 years 384 runs on the flat and 32 runs over jumps

Why did you start the thread if you have no interest in the man?
Report willie the milk July 27, 2018 8:00 PM BST
Gave me one of my best days at the Festival when he rode Brief Gale to win the Sun Alliance Chase about 1994 ish. ☺
Report acey deucy July 27, 2018 8:23 PM BST
You are full of ****
last 5 years 384 runs on the flat and 32 runs over jumps

Why did you start the thread if you have no interest in the man?

Bit harsh on dom ffs.
Report mrcombustible July 27, 2018 8:41 PM BST
Not really. He post bullshit. Pretends to know the game
Report acey deucy July 27, 2018 8:44 PM BST
He knows the game inside out.
Report mrcombustible July 27, 2018 8:48 PM BST
I am sure he does, he knows it so well he thought Hide was a jumps trainer.
He also had a great career as a jockey, last 10 years he is 0/10, most on here never heard of him as a jockey
Report DenzilPenberthy July 27, 2018 8:50 PM BST

Jul 27, 2018 -- 8:48PM, mrcombustible wrote:


I am sure he does, he knows it so well he thought Hide was a jumps trainer.He also had a great career as a jockey, last 10 years he is 0/10, most on here never heard of him as a jockey


Cos up until a fortnight ago everybody was typing Ricardo Montalban into the searches.

Report domino14 July 27, 2018 8:57 PM BST
@Mrc

Or you could look at the 250 winners from 2500 rides ridden from 1992 to 2007, then moved abroad and rode another 200 winners and returned to Uk in 2012, had a handful of rides, and retired. Hide rode over jumps, as said I hadn't followed him, in his piece he complained about having to ready jump horses for the Autumn and couldn't and 6 had got injured in the last month, it's not unreasonable to assume he was a jumps trainer reading that piece.
Report s.kenbo July 27, 2018 9:04 PM BST
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/i-rode-250-winners-man-12040518

Now I've found you!!
Report Deltâ July 27, 2018 9:05 PM BST
tbf - he doesnt say ready jump horses, he say horses for Autumn campaign including the one he named, Dragons Voice - who is a flat horse...
Report domino14 July 27, 2018 9:06 PM BST
@S.Kenbo


hahah, no afraid not.

Very much a man, I would make a very ugly woman !
Report Cork Langer July 27, 2018 9:09 PM BST
Are you saying the stats widely available are wrong JD...? As they have you responsible for 145 winners from approx 1,700 rides for the period you quote
Report domino14 July 27, 2018 9:10 PM BST
Rode out in Jersey most years Cork, as well as winters in USA when younger and then far east a couple of years. The rode abroad in 2008-2012

The UK figures look right, so long ago now though.
Report STATSMAN July 27, 2018 9:13 PM BST
    YEAR        WINS        RUNS        2ND        3RD        4TH        TOTAL EARNINGS        £1 STAKE   
            Total        Total        Total        Total        Total                   
            145        1581        133        154        130        £879,932.00        -£491.98   
    2013        0        10        1        1        2        £1,299.00        -£10.00   
    2008        0        1        1        0        0        £771.00        -£1.00   
    2007        1        43        6        2        1        £11,637.00        -£39.75   
    2006        2        44        4        1        1        £18,093.00        -£21.50   
    2005        12        94        7        11        11        £66,845.00        £31.13   
    2004        8        94        10        10        6        £65,880.00        £4.63   
    2003        12        137        7        9        9        £59,987.00        -£36.67   
    2002        9        124        13        8        9        £83,014.00        -£51.00   
    2001        19        220        17        19        13        £122,159.00        -£67.25   
    2000        2        42        3        2        3        £8,796.00        -£32.25   
    1999        11        144        16        16        19        £73,430.00        -£88.91   
    1998        11        71        6        5        7        £53,324.00        -£5.59   
    1997        7        107        10        14        10        £49,170.00        -£73.63   
    1996        12        102        5        5        12        £51,043.00        -£41.59   
    1995        17        128        12        29        7        £101,405.00        -£11.94   
    1994        5        108        6        12        9        £40,281.00        -£43.00   
    1993        6        49        7        5        4        £42,735.00        -£11.38   
    1992        7        42        1        2        7        £15,530.00        -£4.61   
    1991        4        21        1        3        0        £14,533.00        £12.33   
Report smirnoff2therescue July 27, 2018 9:17 PM BST
evening Stats/Cork

I think he's the following

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy8kmNEo1i8  LaughLaughLaugh

The other thread has been hilarious to read as wellExcitedLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report STATSMAN July 27, 2018 9:19 PM BST
Evening shears.

Laugh @ other fred
Report STATSMAN July 27, 2018 9:20 PM BST
Should have guessed - Tune! Cool
Report smirnoff2therescue July 27, 2018 9:21 PM BST
loved sk's comment about warwick davis wanting his turn if wazza got past dom - quality gold LaughLaughLaugh
Report Cork Langer July 27, 2018 9:22 PM BST
evening s2tr, fair do's JD, I wasn't aware you had stints in Bergerac country, long time after my brief flirtation with the island in the early 80's
Report smirnoff2therescue July 27, 2018 9:23 PM BST
his gigures seem to be out of sync on a regular basis to say the least including his own height ffs LaughLaughLaugh
Report STATSMAN July 27, 2018 9:23 PM BST
Toys, dummy, the lot got chucked out Laugh
Report smirnoff2therescue July 27, 2018 9:23 PM BST
*figures Laugh
Report smirnoff2therescue July 27, 2018 9:23 PM BST
*figures Laugh
Report s.kenbo July 27, 2018 9:25 PM BST
Smirnoff. Grin
Report smirnoff2therescue July 27, 2018 9:27 PM BST
Evening cork - been enjoying ya bitchfest wiv the other loon - i wonder which book he put you in (stewy that is)CrazyCrazy
Report smirnoff2therescue July 27, 2018 9:30 PM BST
evening sk quality line earlier on - genuinely laughed at it when i read it LaughLaughLaugh
Report s.kenbo July 27, 2018 9:30 PM BST
I was an avid reader of that myself.

I could think easier opponents I'd rather be up against than cork.
Report Cork Langer July 27, 2018 9:34 PM BST
Not sure where he is, was looking for advice on printers the other night, surely it hasn't taken him 2 days to find a shop that sells them....then again...!
Report smirnoff2therescue July 27, 2018 9:35 PM BST
too many 12 second bows last night when chavs was egging him on is my guess LaughLaughLaugh
Report chavman July 27, 2018 9:42 PM BST
what has transpired smirny
Report smirnoff2therescue July 27, 2018 9:50 PM BST
nee idea chavs - just remember you two comparing olympic/world record times for knocking back a strongbow - took him ova a minute to knock back a 1pt stellar mind -his words not mine- but no sign of him today -  will cost him about £30 mind for a slab now so unless he smashed em up yday and followed you in -on the slab that is- then  its a mystery ConfusedConfusedConfused
Report chavman July 27, 2018 9:53 PM BST
think he was bought up in a house full of women,its the only conclusion i can draw
Report Cork Langer July 27, 2018 9:53 PM BST
he received a pm from domino that won so he could be on the lash tonight as well
Report STATSMAN July 27, 2018 9:58 PM BST
Oh that aftertime won?
Report pablo-fanque July 27, 2018 9:59 PM BST

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@Mrc

Or you could look at the 250 winners from 2500 rides ridden from 1992 to 2007, then moved abroad and rode another 200 winners and returned to Uk in 2012, had a handful of rides, and retired. Hide rode over jumps, as said I hadn't followed him, in his piece he complained about having to ready jump horses for the Autumn and couldn't and 6 had got injured in the last month, it's not unreasonable to assume he was a jumps trainer reading that piece.


just to clarify , is domino saying he had 250 winners out of 2500 rides or is that about phillip hide ?
Report Cork Langer July 27, 2018 10:01 PM BST
pablo, he is referring to himself regards 250 from 2,500
Report chavman July 27, 2018 10:02 PM BST
so who is he
Report smirnoff2therescue July 27, 2018 10:02 PM BST
way i read it pablo - he had 250 winners over here before moving abroad.....and yet stats didnt back up that so feck knows ConfusedConfusedLaughLaugh
Report Cork Langer July 27, 2018 10:03 PM BST
Yes statsman, same one as striding, sounds like there is a secret ring inside the forum that only certain people are privy to...!
Report chavman July 27, 2018 10:03 PM BST
has anybody ascertained his identity
Report smirnoff2therescue July 27, 2018 10:04 PM BST
and Stats is in it LaughLaugh
Report STATSMAN July 27, 2018 10:04 PM BST
Secret ring's fine by me.

Good luck to them Cool
Report STATSMAN July 27, 2018 10:06 PM BST
I somehow don't think I'd get an invite.

I may get the info through other means mind Laugh
Report pablo-fanque July 27, 2018 10:06 PM BST
ohh right cork langer , thanks .  maybe he just has a bad memory


11kv  • March 18, 2018 10:22 AM GMT
Ride any winners Dominoe14 ?


domino14  • March 18, 2018 12:59 PM GMT
@11kv 22 in UK, then another 128 in Germany and a few other scattered European tracks. Called it a day about 9 years ago now.

domino14  • March 18, 2018 1:19 PM GMT 


I was ****.

I rode maybe 10-20 horses a week riding in France, Sweden, Germany and a few other places where I often drove to. Prize money was non existent and quality of racing was dire. I once had a horse come 3rd in the German St Leger and I earned around £500 for it. I rode horses which were mainly getting tailed off.Yes over 3 years abroad I had a good number of winners but in certain countries there are a lot of spares going about so you could always get 4-5 rides at a meeting, although mainly bad rides.

I was offered a stint in Bahrain and South Africa, but I had not long got married and my wife wanted to start a family and she didn't want to move again having left the Uk when it was pointless staying here.

We moved back 3 years ago, because the quality of education is better in the Uk and our daughter was ready to start primary school.

I rode from 1993 at the age of 16, through to 2005 in the UK, riding as an apprentice for 10 years and having around 20 winners, I then had a job riding out for a couple of big yards and picked up the odd rides here and there, one of the owners at the yard was a big owner in Germany and he offered me a job within his stable in Germany and promised me rides, so I took it. It was a good couple of years but my wife never enjoyed it. By the time I was 32 nearing 33 it wasn't really making money and my wife wanted to be back in England, so it made the decision to pack up easy. When I returned to the UK I was offered a couple of stable jobs up north and rode out for a small while and had 3 rides I think, but come 2011 I packed racing in altogether.

I took up Poker in 2013 and have done very well and that is a good earner for me, but my main line of work is in photography which I studied when I returned to the UK and is my main source of income.
Report Richie_Burnett July 27, 2018 10:06 PM BST
Ex-jockey my arse. I'll tell you what he is; a waste of a good mans rations.
Report Cork Langer July 27, 2018 10:06 PM BST
He is J D Smith had 145 winners in UK and a further 105 in Jersey, you are very lazy chav it is all in the above posts, but given you are a mate of stewarty, I don't mind spelling it out...!
Report pablo-fanque July 27, 2018 10:07 PM BST
http://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30997415/owne...
Report chavman July 27, 2018 10:07 PM BST
thats a big 10-4 from me,gives me even more licence to be the thick bloke Cool
Report chavman July 27, 2018 10:09 PM BST
never heard of him but thanks anyway corky Happy
Report Cork Langer July 27, 2018 10:09 PM BST
Sorry it isn't that easy, you need to join the queue...!
Report Cork Langer July 27, 2018 10:13 PM BST
pablo, think he has been consistent regards rides and winners, maybe a little misunderstanding from his wording of posts, re above think he mean't 20 a season rather than 20 in the 12 years, a slight exaggeration, but obviously like most on here, he rounds up rather than down...!
Report pablo-fanque July 27, 2018 10:23 PM BST
i'm not so sure corky . 11kv asks him a direct  simple question:

"ride any winners" and the answer is ,

"22 in the uk , then another 128 in germany " .

that's not going to be 22 a year in uk , but 128 in total in germany , no one would reply like that

he says it yet again  "I rode from 1993 at the age of 16, through to 2005 in the UK, riding as an apprentice for 10 years and having around 20 winners"

don't forget , he was an apprentice for 10 years

am i missing something ?
Report pablo-fanque July 27, 2018 10:40 PM BST
I once had a horse come 3rd in the German St Leger and I earned around £500 for it.

corky , no jd smith has ever come third in the german st leger , maybe anoth lapse of his memory ?
Report pablo-fanque July 27, 2018 10:40 PM BST
er
Report DenzilPenberthy July 27, 2018 10:45 PM BST
More memory lapses than John Darwin ffs.
Report smirnoff2therescue July 27, 2018 10:47 PM BST
Hartlepools finest LaughLaughLaugh
Report Cork Langer July 27, 2018 10:56 PM BST
You're right pablo, there is certainly a lot of confusion, mostly caused by posting different answers/information to the same questions, I am happy to believe that domino is JD but I would understand others taking the opposite view, the german leger one for certain is very hard to explain, perhaps JD will come on and enlighten us or set the record sort of straight...!
Report domino14 July 28, 2018 5:26 AM BST
@Cork

When first posted on the forum, I put out a few falsities, basically I didn't want people knowing who I was. But then a few threads were about races, and horses and people slating trainers and so on, and I posted honestly in my response and without thinking gave a few too many clues which made it more obvious without thinking. Anyway I can't be bothered with getting into nonsense threads and posts with people. It really isn't worth it. Most of the time I give my opinions on riders, trainers, horses and races which are views from my background or contacts and my opinion. I don't really care if people don't like it, but several times people post such nonsense in regards to rides and tracks, where they simply wouldn't know. If you can offer another perspective you hope people may actually see things from another side rather than thinking everything is stopped, cheating and rubbish so to speak, but some people don't want to listen and would rather argue. No point offering a view if people don't want to hear it and just want to be rude.
Report Deltâ July 28, 2018 8:30 AM BST
if only Chompy_imo was here to post, Irony!
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