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stewarty b
11 Jul 18 02:28
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I'm towning it later on to get all the 6/4 I can. 2s with the books but hard pressed to notice any danger to this beast , gl/al. Unless any genuine 2/1 on here it's breakfast and bet

with the books here. No idea about the discrepancy in price but will try my best to get the best odds available. g/l All.

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stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 07:16
This is not a town job being 2's here and 6/4 with the books.. Best keep an eye on the market given the price difference but my beast has the best form imho. That said, a big difference in prices...
By:
crepello
When: 11 Jul 18 09:40
What on earth are you talking about?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 11 Jul 18 09:42
Good luck stewarty

I see he's actually rated a lb inferior to the Burrows horse on official ratings.

I think it's fair to say Artamon hasn't looked the easiest, but against that could be the sort to benefit from the headgear.

You have Horatio Star who's from a stable whose horses can improve massively from a debut run.

But the one that interests me the most the O'Meara filly Makawee who was a big eyecatcher on debut over 7f, and again over a mile lto when keeping on well as if in need of a longer trip. She's taking a marked step up to 12f here.
By:
Deltâ
When: 11 Jul 18 09:42
Artarmon
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stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 09:58
You make valid points GEORGE but I couldn't be having Horatio Star or the Mawawee beast taking my money. As for the Burrows beast it does have in it's favour Burrows strike rate in the last 14 days (40%) But I've got it in my head now that my selection has the best form. GF/l if playing.
By:
stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 10:00
As D points out I should have named it imo!
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 11 Jul 18 10:06
The vet reported that Horatio Star appeared to be suffering from ringworm on its debut 25 days ago.

Though whether that made it run any faster or slowed it down, if either, I wouldn't know!

Hang on, I should try looking at the form every now and then, just seen that the Burrows hoss was behind Meehan's at Sandown, though he had been put into the heat of the race before fading.

Not a confident pick, particularly on a third run for a mark, but I'll stick with Makawee at the prices, as the step up in trip could benefit this half-sister to the useful stayer Prince Of Arran.
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stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 10:51
I'm off out to take some 15/8 although oddsckecker are poor at the moment. I don't think that will be far off it's BSP/SP and I wont have to pay 5% commission if it obliges plus BOG, double result blah blah blah.
By:
Cork Langer
When: 11 Jul 18 11:49
Do you keep records of your selections...?
The one's that I have come across on here suggest you would be a fair bit down if you were using level stakes, the criteria you use seems to be simply any short priced favourite that you believe should be even shorter = value.
Today's pick appears to have regressed and is taking on five others that should have plenty of improvement still left in them, in your favour Bell has a decent profitable strike rate at the course with 3yo especially over the last five years, good luck I hope it wins for you but it wouldn't strike me as a good thing.
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stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 11:53
I never said it was a good thing and a reluctant g/l if you lay it.
By:
stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 11:55
Do you keep records of your selections...?



Never have, never will. Pointless imo. Let me show you an example from a forumite I respect...
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stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 11:58
Am sure you fooled most people there, not me.
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GEORGE.B 22 Jun 18 16:12 Joined: 14 Jul 04 | Topic/replies: 37,227 | Blogger: GEORGE.B's blog
Looked like he had ample opportunity to make headway down the flank of the field towards the overall leaders but switched it in behind the main body of the field?
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Barton Bank 22 Jun 18 16:14 Joined: 31 Jul 01 | Topic/replies: 8,238 | Blogger: Barton Bank's blog
Body language right from the stalls horrible for me. All I am going to say is I would totally disregard that "below par run" next time that horse is seen out.
By:
stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 11:59
That was from Barton Bank along with another good un.
By:
Cork Langer
When: 11 Jul 18 12:06
What has the above got to do with keeping a record of your plays...?

The phrase used was "it wouldn't strike me as a good thing" I made no inference to you hence use of the word "me"
By:
stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 12:14
I made no inference to you hence use of the word "me"



You have lost me there CL.
By:
stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 12:17
As for ......'Today's pick appears to have regressed and is taking on five others that should have plenty of improvement still left in them,'



As you are not a bad un I wont say something simple like 'what meds blah blah blah' But are we speaking about the same race????
By:
Cork Langer
When: 11 Jul 18 12:42
Best we wait for the race as it appears you are unable to comprehend or perhaps accept simple facts as listed in the raceform

started off placed in a couple of class 4's
dropped to an a/w class 5 that it failed to win
placed 4th of 6 in a ropey class 3 at Leicester
placed again in a class 4 at Sandown
beaten again in a class 5 a/w
today goes into a turf class 5 at lowly Catterick

that to me shouts regression and that Bell is anxious to get a win into it so that it can be sold as a jumping prospect as it is going to struggle to pay for its keep on the flat on what it has shown to date.

Good luck with your bet, I will not be laying it as the race makes no appeal to me at all, other than now to see how your pick goes and to see which of our evaluations of the merits of the horse are closest, win or lose.
By:
tanglefoot
When: 11 Jul 18 12:50
Looks like a loss,Stewy
By:
stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 12:51
But you said....

Today's pick appears to have regressed and is taking on five others that should have plenty of improvement still left in them,'
By:
stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 12:54
By that you are basically saying that East Wind and Afloraldance have a chance to upset my selection?
By:
TheAnorak
When: 11 Jul 18 13:02
Goodness knows what Burrows is trying to achieve with his runner, but he'll do well to win a 12F race with a son of Havana Gold that has no stamina help from the dam side. Gave no sign of staying even 10F last month.
By:
Cork Langer
When: 11 Jul 18 13:06
I did indeed say that, as in the 5 horses combined have had only 9 races between them, therefore they would I imagine have plenty of improvement to come as they are very much unknown quantities when compared to your choice which is having its 7th run.
I have no idea of the merits of any of the five but given the choice of backing yours or having the other five run for me, I would opt for the five every time based on probability alone.
By:
stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 13:31
Going by your theory it must be worth having a fiver each on East Wind and Afloraldance.
By:
Cork Langer
When: 11 Jul 18 13:37
Who knows, it is a poor race that your selection may well win, but it is the type of risk that I would not contemplate taking for the probable payout.

You were going to town 3 hours ago to back it but are still on here, are you having second thoughts...? 15/8 everywhere so you haven't missed anything and 2/1 on here
By:
stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 13:40
CL, trust me, when I hit the city centre five minutes from my home I can place ten bets within twenty minutes. And that's without the car.
By:
stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 13:41
* for future reference that should read miss stew's car.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 11 Jul 18 14:16
I wouldn't describe Artarmon as regressive just yet. The run at Sandown, he probably did well to get as close as he did given how that race panned out; and last time he ran into an unexposed one of Gosden's and the third has won since off 73. He does seem to have the most solid form. He has raced lazily and the first time visor could help.

But as Cork says, the others are open to progression, and I'm interested to see the O'Meara filly gets on upped to 12f.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 11 Jul 18 14:40
leg count for makawee please Scared
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 11 Jul 18 14:43
well done stewarty
By:
Barton Bank
When: 11 Jul 18 14:44
Makwee ride, LOL. They do what they want.
By:
Cork Langer
When: 11 Jul 18 14:44
wd stewarty
By:
Zsa_Zsa_Gabors_Leg
When: 11 Jul 18 14:45
WD
By:
Barton Bank
When: 11 Jul 18 14:46
Well done, good shout.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 11 Jul 18 14:48
makawee looked all over the shop on the track, not helped by being caught wide. Looks a big filly who should be up to winning races.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 11 Jul 18 14:50
Good call from TheAnorak btw, looked like it wouldn't have stayed in a horse box Crazy
By:
Barton Bank
When: 11 Jul 18 14:51
Taken wide, not caught wide. Not that it matters all that much. Will be a different horse on a galloping track/when punted.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 11 Jul 18 14:53
I'm not going to argue with you BB, we all saw the pre-race graph!
By:
stewarty b
When: 11 Jul 18 14:57
Thanks lads and without blowing my trumpet these races are made for me. The further they go in a maiden the better here. (I think 1mile 6f is the longest maiden, Redcar maybe)?


That said, give me a sixteen runner handicap and I will give you a beast that will hopefully give you a run for your money.

As for this race you will never see six of them on ITV 3 on a Saturday..
By:
Deltâ
When: 11 Jul 18 15:05
WD s b
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