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passed away aged 78.Sad

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By:
sageform
When: 07 Jul 18 11:11
Sad news. The oldies will remember the likes of Shirley Heights, Salsabil among many others.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 07 Jul 18 11:12
I noticed he was down as joint owner of the well bred debutant Venedegar, who ran yesterday in the 3.00 Sandown, carrying the Windfower Overseas colours.

RIP
By:
ged
When: 07 Jul 18 11:18
This oldie remembers when he was a trainer in his 20s with horses like Burglar, Great Bear and Little Bear.
By:
the dealer
When: 07 Jul 18 11:20
r.i.p he had some top class animals in his time, Fingals Cave one of my favourite horses
By:
ged
When: 07 Jul 18 11:22
(and Edward Bear, who wasn't as good, who I saw run at Windsor one time).
By:
ashleigh
When: 07 Jul 18 11:22
best horses, crcus plume,erhaab,habibti,invincible spirit,marju.milenary,quick as lightning,salsabil,shadayid,shirley heights,silver patriach.

backed many of the years.Happy

all started for the maktoum family with hatta there first winner at brighton in 1977.
By:
sageform
When: 07 Jul 18 11:23
I remember the names ged, but Shirley Heights really put him up at the top table.
By:
ashleigh
When: 07 Jul 18 11:23
over.
By:
Vubiant
When: 07 Jul 18 11:24
I seem to remember he had an early classic success with Black Satin.Did he also train One In A Million ?
By:
asparagus
When: 07 Jul 18 11:27
Plenty of other very good ones not mentioned above. Bahri winning the QE2 was a particular favourite of mine. Elnadim, Mujahid, Lahib also.

More importantly as well as a great trainer he was an absolute gentleman in the same mould as Sir Henry. Legend.
By:
posy
When: 07 Jul 18 11:28
No Cecil trained her
By:
Cork Langer
When: 07 Jul 18 11:29
RIP, very much old school, lucky enough to have had some very decent horses and unfortunate to be training at the same time as some legends, otherwise he would have had more than the solitary Trainers Championship he gained
By:
posy
When: 07 Jul 18 11:33
asparagus not really in the same mould as Cecil...his departure from the training ranks involved a voluntary liquidation which left a load of small businesses out of pocket and statutory redundancy to his staff.
By:
sparrow
When: 07 Jul 18 11:36
Sad news and I remember him in his earlier days being very good at getting his stayers well handicapped after 3 runs.
By:
sageform
When: 07 Jul 18 11:36
Just looking at the 2000 Horses in Training when JD had 180 in training. They included Millenary, Invincible Spirit, Mujahid and Sakhee. Significantly though, only Olden Times from the list of 2yo's rings any bells with me. The beginning of the decline?
By:
asparagus
When: 07 Jul 18 11:37
Posy, fair enough, i'm sure you know those details better than me. On racing UK they suggested he remained loyal to his staff for too long rather than letting them down.
By:
sageform
When: 07 Jul 18 11:39
He was probably better at training horses than running a business.
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 07 Jul 18 11:44
Daniel with Jon Ware on at Goodwood, Hutchinson on the Fav i think, Hutch made most for Daniel to swoop inside the forlong pole.
By:
onlooker
When: 07 Jul 18 11:44
John Dunlop  entered training at the top table by being, effectively, Private Trainer to the Duke of Norfolk - the then Royal Ascot representative for The Queen.

Dunlop having been Assistant Trainer to Gordon Smyth (for not that long a period of time) and Gordon Smyth having been trainer of the Duke of Norfolk's horses at the Duke's stables on the Arundel Estate.

'Off to a flyer' could be an appropriate observation.

Just like his contemporary Dick Hern - Leaving aside Classic races (which are always the standard citation in these circumstance)  - what proper punters will remember them both for was just how reliable they both were when they ran a horse in a 2-y-old Nursery Handicap, and 3-y-old Handicaps.
Coincidentally, often ridden, for both trainers, by Willie Carson.

Lump on - and then some more.
By:
mrcombustible
When: 07 Jul 18 11:45
Posy is correct. Post 11.33
By:
spyker
When: 07 Jul 18 11:46
I wander if his old stable staff will have a whip-round to pay for the funeral?
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 07 Jul 18 11:51
He gave me £20 3 years ago, for a Christmas tip, for delivering his daily Racing Post and the Times.
By:
portmanpark
When: 07 Jul 18 12:01
very sad RIP
By:
lead on
When: 07 Jul 18 12:02
Really sorry to read this.Always one of my favourite trainers and had that knack of steadily improving horses...personal favourites for having followed and backed them ...Sea Chimes,Moon Madness,Castle Keep,Seymour Hicks,Beau Reef,Posse...the list is endless.Would have been his birthday next week
By:
GHOSTOFALEXBIRD
When: 07 Jul 18 12:15
RIP

A true gentleman
By:
Vubiant
When: 07 Jul 18 12:33
Thanks to posy for correction e One In A Million. I was thinking of Quick As Lightning who won the year after !
Must try to google more before I post. Plain
By:
acey deucy
When: 07 Jul 18 12:37
Sad News he was a True Gentleman.....Shame it ended like it did with a lot of disgruntled employees.
By:
themightymac
When: 07 Jul 18 12:59
Very sad to hear this, a true racing legend. Coincidence this happens on Eclipse day as Scottish Rifle`s victory in 73 was probably his first big win. RIP
By:
impossible123
When: 07 Jul 18 13:01
Sad news. J Dunlop was a very good trainer. RIP.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 07 Jul 18 13:05
That is extremely sad news to read of his passing, he was a very fine trainer and trained my all time favourite horse Salsabil. R.I.P.
By:
themightymac
When: 07 Jul 18 13:12
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Shirley Heights, A memorable and first Derby winner for Mr Dunlop. RIP
By:
Oldgit1
When: 07 Jul 18 13:15
We used to go to his open days at Castle Stables and saw some of his decent horses. His staff were always very open with their answers to questions.

We met him and his wife once at the The racing museum at when we were in Newmarket for the Craven meeting one year. We were about the only ones there. He helped my wife with a racing puzzle she was doing while his wife and I talked about Lester in his Hurdle racing days.
He was fortunate to survive when his aortic aneurysm burst and they got him to hospital and a surgeon was available. Hope I'm as fortunate if mine ever bursts.
By:
big aitch
When: 07 Jul 18 13:23
He was a Gentleman, trained Belper the one eyed horse, Spot The Dog, do you live in Arundel?
By:
pumphol.
When: 07 Jul 18 13:25
Think asparagus was asserting to being a gentleman in the same mould as Sir Henry rather than his training achievements,as for the voluntary liquidation that doesn't necessarily make someone less of a decent person I would have thought.
By:
jamilla14
When: 07 Jul 18 13:26
Went bankrupt with debts approaching £1.4 million leaving a load of creditors high and dry, yet still managed to live the high life to the end.RIP.
By:
Johnny_Mustang
When: 07 Jul 18 13:26
I spend a lot of time in Arundel Big Aitch, mostly at the Black Rabbit.
By:
isleham
When: 07 Jul 18 13:30
saw the mighty salsabil at a stable open day..great stuff
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 07 Jul 18 13:42
RIP top trainer
By:
Greg_Gory
When: 07 Jul 18 13:57
R.I.P Sad
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