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domino14
06 Jul 18 23:22
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So tomorrow Mark Johnston runs a 2yo who is Irish Bred called The Trader. Very sad that this name wasn't protected, as there was a very smart 3 times group winning Irish bred sprinter called The Trader who ran for Michael Blanshard. I always thought group winners names were protected so horses in the future couldn't race in that name. Evidently not.  Most upsetting for me, is the BHA have now changed the official name of the 1998 bred sprinter to The Trader 1.
The Johnston horse did run last week, but didn't notice it running then, feel a little disappointed the Blanshard horse's name wasn't protected. Imagine trying to name a horse Pentire or Faithful Son or Istabraq ! I bet they wouldn't allow that!
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Report DenzilPenberthy July 6, 2018 11:25 PM BST
Can imagine Faithful Sun or Pentyre Silly
Someone on here will know the ruling as to whether enough time has lapsed or whatever.
Report DenzilPenberthy July 6, 2018 11:27 PM BST
https://www.weatherbys.co.uk/horses-racing/racehorse-owners/horse-names-and-...
Report domino14 July 6, 2018 11:27 PM BST
He ran until 2008 and is reportedly still alive according to Weatherby's passports, I don't get how the name can be used.
Report DenzilPenberthy July 6, 2018 11:28 PM BST
Seems like some are protected and most aren't nowt to do with time.
Report domino14 July 6, 2018 11:29 PM BST
@Denzil

I am aware of that and 3000 names are protected. It was meant to be any Stallion , or Group winner's name is protected, but in this case that clearly hasn't happened.
Report DenzilPenberthy July 6, 2018 11:51 PM BST
Might be because he's a Gelding who knows?
Report Cork Langer July 7, 2018 1:45 AM BST
Given you mention Beverley domino, did you make an error of judgement when riding there this week 16 years ago...?
Report DenzilPenberthy July 7, 2018 1:51 AM BST
Yikes some iffy names on that card Cork many brown envelope types but not domino I think Wink
Report DenzilPenberthy July 7, 2018 1:56 AM BST
The Culhane one was at Ponty if that's what you were meaning sprung to my mind anyway.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/horseracing/3030829/Culhanes-costly-blunder.html
Report domino14 July 7, 2018 7:15 AM BST
On what Cork? Don't think I was even riding at that meeting 16 years ago ?
Report domino14 July 7, 2018 7:19 AM BST
Think I know what you mean though Cork. Wasn't that meeting and if you call losing your iron on a horse and losing your balance after a horse bumped into you then I suppose you could call it an error of judgement......
Report domino14 July 7, 2018 7:24 AM BST
Now I know what you're on about, just looked up races in Beveley. Only human.
Report Cork Langer July 7, 2018 12:05 PM BST
Thanks for clarifying, you didn't have that many rides there, so assumed it would have stuck in the memory, unless you did it elsewhere as well that went unnoticed of course...!!!
Report onlooker July 7, 2018 12:20 PM BST
Schedule 1 - Registration of horse names

1.1 The following names are not available for registration for a horse
1.1.1 subject to Paragraph 3, a name already registered in the register of horse names under Part 2;
1.1.2 subject to Paragraph 4, a name followed by one or more numbers;
1.1.3 a name on the International and Domestic Lists of Protected Names;
1.1.4 a name of more than 18 characters, including signs or spaces;
1.1.5 a name made up entirely of initials, or include figures, hyphens, full-stops, commas, signs, exclamation marks, inverted commas, forward or backward slash, colon and semi-colon;
1.1.6 a name that starts with a sign other than a letter;
1.1.7 a name containing more than seven syllables;
1.1.8 a name the pronunciation of which the Authority considers to be identical or unacceptably similar, to
1.1.8.1 a name that is on the International or Domestic Lists of Protected Names, or
1.1.8.2 a name that is already registered for a horse foaled in a year that is within 10 years of the year of foaling of the horse to which the application relates;
1.1.9 a name which the Authority considers
1.1.9.1 is suggestive or has a vulgar, obscene or insulting meaning,
1.1.9.2 is in poor taste,
1.1.9.3 may be offensive to religious, political or ethnic groups,
1.1.9.4 may otherwise cause offence,
1.1.9.5 may cause confusion in the administration of racing or betting, or
1.1.9.6 is the name of a well-known horse.

1.1.10 a name already registered to a sibling or parent of the horse in question;
1.2 For the purposes of Paragraph 1.1, the use of the definite or indefinite article does not constitute a different name.
2.1 The following names are available for registration for a horse if the conditions specified are met
2.1.1 the name of a public Person may be registered if the Person or his family have given permission;
2.1.2 a name which the Authority considers to be of commercial significance may be registered if appropriate permission has been obtained;
2.1.3 a name which the Authority considers to be that of a prominent company, product or trade name may be registered if
2.1.3.1 the written approval of the company or body associated with the name has been obtained, or
2.1.3.2 the Authority is satisfied that the name has an alternative meaning in common usage.
3.1 A name which has already been entered in the register of horse names shall become available for registration for a different horse at the end of the month of the relevant year during which it became available, as determined in accordance with Paragraphs 3.2 to 3.4.
3.2 Where the name was registered to a brood mare, the relevant year is whichever of the following first occurs
3.2.1 10 years after the mare's death,
3.2.2 10 years after the last recorded year in which the mare was covered or produced a foal, or
3.2.3 when the mare attains 30 years of age.
3.3 Where the name was registered to a stallion, the relevant year is whichever of the following first occurs
3.3.1 15 years after the stallion's death,
3.3.2 15 years after the last recorded year in which the stallion covered one or more mares, or
3.3.3 the year when the stallion attains 35 years of age.
3.4 Where the name was registered to any other horse, the relevant year is whichever of the following first occurs
3.4.1 5 years after the horse's death, or
3.4.2 the year when the horse attains 20 years of age.

3.5 An exception may be made where the name of a horse which has been reported dead and has not raced is sought for re-use by the same applicant.

4. Where a name is not available for a horse, a numeral may only be added to the name if
4.1 the horse was foaled in Great Britain, Ireland or the Channel Islands, and
4.2 it is not in the Stud Book maintained by the Stud Book Authority of Great Britain and Ireland.
5. If the same name is simultaneously claimed for two horses, the order of priority shall be determined by lot at The Racing Calendar Office.
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