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Many of them do it. How much do they get paid for it as many who do it have had good careers.
Interesting article in RP members section today on Fallon who rides out six days a week for Saeed, He says that he did not enjoy race riding and prefers working out with just another couple of horses.
Interesting article in RP members section today on Fallon who rides out six days a week for Saeed, He says that he did not enjoy race riding and prefers working out with just another couple of horses.
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Good question imo
Two or three ex jocks on here.....sure their input would be most welcome. |
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Paid peanuts but they still have a Legion Of Punters to keep Happy...That's what brings the Dough In.
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Pays less than a well thought out roulette system.
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25-40 per lot
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When I returned to the UK in 2012 I got £15 a lot for a couple of Newmarket yards. I got a few rides in 2013 then retired.
I was asked to ride out for a yard in 2014, who would pay me £20 a lot. The going norm for work riders is £12-15 a lot, some jocks may get £20. Delta, no trainers pay 25-40 a lot! A good friend of mine works for Godolphin and he is paid a wage rather than per lot which is £400 a week, he was a very good jockey but now rides for SBS. |
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delta gets £25-40 for schooling the MHT jumpers.
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I suppose on the plus side there's little time spent travelling and few if any expenses.
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£20 in 2014 Dom' has become £25 in 2018
Fanshawe pays 40 notes for 4th lot |
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What is a lot, please?
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Kim Bailey was offering £10 a lot less than 2 Years ago.....And the cheeky **** was saying how well he pays his Top members of staff i.e His Head Lad...….Big Deal he pays his Head Lad well but the rest of his Riders are on a pittance.....What A Joker.
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impossible123 26 Jun 18 16:30
What is a lot, please? depending on how many horses/riders you have 1st batch out = 1st lot 2nd batch out - 2nd lot etc days gone by 3 lots per day max nowadays 4/5 normal R Fahey - probably 8 ish USA - 14 lots |
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'delta', cheers. Further on, how long would one lot take to ride out? Could an ex-jockey be riding 4/5 lots? If so, @£20 equates to £80/£100 per morning/day then, correct?;Not a bad earner over a year, if so.
No wonder keeping a horse in training is an expensive business or past time. |
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That's the lot is last batch out
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Will be done by robots by 2030.
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Post brexit, or trainee jockeys in academies.
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Already happening mouse
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"Already happening now"
Agree, at Royal Ascot eg Moore! |
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If you google it they have machines that can gallop horses very expensive though
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Fanshawe pays £40 for 4th lot ? Who told you that ? I know 2 lads really well there, and they are on £15 a lot.
Most are on £15 a lot. Catlin gets £20 a lot at SBS, and Godolphin pay best in town. I used to get £20 a lot for Stoute and most lads were on £10 a lot. Some of the Lambourn yards are on £10-15 a lot still. Very few yards have 4 lots now, unless smaller yards, and trainers would rarely give more than 2 lots to paid riders, they would rather full time staff on them to save money. |
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@Impossible123
A lot would last 60-90 minutes, depending. At Stoutes, I used to ride one up to gallops, do a routine canter then a fast piece of work. By the time I had pulled up from galloping, a lass or lad would have brought another horse up for a canter and myself and other work riders would then get off our horse and get on the next one to gallop, and the lad / lass would ride our first mounts home. You would prob have 3 changeovers, but that was 3 horses (about 40 in total) exercised in around 90 minutes. There would be other riders just taking non workers for a routine canter, using up Warren or Long Hill. I rarely rode more than a big lot of 3, then 2 horses during second lot so five horses, But I only got paid £20 for the horse I tacked up, and £10 extra for ones galloped. Then I may have done a 3rd lot, so on a work morning I would earn £90, however a normal morning I may do two routine canters up Warren Hill or Long Hill or the Al Bahathri, which would take around 75 minutes a lot, and I would get £40 for that. I was always paid weekly in cash, but had a wage slip. When I was riding for Stoute over a couple of seasons, I only got £10 a lot if I had rides that week for the yard, as I was getting £95 a ride less fees. |
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Surely they must be filling their pocket on here.
Laying the slow boats and backing the good uns :) esp the 2 year olds with the inside info :) |
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So while it is nice to lie in your bed in the morning it is better to ride four lots.
It raises the question would those who used to slate Catlin buy his tips ? |
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trouble is pulling out about 5.30AM in current hot spell
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domino do you always know name of the horse you're riding on the gallops ?
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'domino', thanks for the info. It's good to have a bit more insight into the exercising and galloping of horses. No wonder the market speaks volume on raceday for the horses who've been working well (comparatively).
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Yes of course, but lads in the yard, wont see horses gallop fast work if jocked off, and a lot of work riders won't tell the lads how something went. I always did, but certain riders are crafty. |
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they don't get a lot for the lots these lot, do they?
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such is there lot
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£15-20 a lot is decent money. Say you do 3 lots a morning, 5 days a week, that's £225 a week, when you would have started at 6.30am and be done by 10.30am. So for 20 hours a week you would have earned £225, in spite of what the press have you believe, you don't get that stacking shelves in Tesco.
Also it's played down how little full time staff get, but the average wage is now £330 - £400 a week for a full time stable lad, and that's before racing expenses and so on. Yes it can be a lot of hours, starting 5.30am and getting done at 12.30 6 mornings a week and 2 hours 5 evenings a week (working every other weekend, but Sunday stables are easy and if you have to ride a lot out, you get paid extra) but it's often forgot that most jobs actually come with accommodation which saves lads a fair whack. At Barry's as an apprentice, I shared a cottage in Lambourn with another lad at the yard, this was part of my wage. When I started at Barry's at 15, I was on £64 a week. Lads come out the Racing School now on around about £150-£180 a week including digs, but as soon as they have their NVQ 2, they get around £250 a week. Once they have their NVQ 3, (Takes abut 3 years from start) they are on £300+, and by the time you're considered fully experienced you'll be on £350-400 a week, including your digs. This is before any racing expenses and so on, lads whinge it's low money because the lifestyle means they often gamble away their wages, or drink them down the pub and rarely have any money. But if you kept your head down, took as many horses racing as you can, then lads can actually earn decent money. There is also pool money where 5% of prize money won by horses is returned to the yard and spread amongst the lads that work there, normally 2% evenly between the lads in the yard, and 3% for the lad that does the horse. I know a couple of lads who looked after a Derby winner, back then the Derby was worth about 300K to the winner, so the lad doing the horse would get around 9K, and 6K spread amongst the yard. Nowadays it's worth 850K, looking after a Derby winner as a lad in a yard would get you around 25K in pool money. When I was part time later on in my career just riding out at a yard or two, I got paid per lot and part time staff often weren't paid pool money, but when I was at Barry's throughout the 90s as an apprentice and after I lost my claim before I moved on to further my career, I would get pool money 4 times a year, and would always get £400/500 minimum the 3 busy times and still at least £100 in the winter, I suspect it would be over a grand now to lads in bigger yards. Get to look after a good horse, and it can be life changing money to a lad. Some yards just split the 5% evenly as no lad actually has their own horses as they are too under staffed but in Newmarket each lad would often look after 4 horses, which they would take care of, and take racing. |
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'domino', thanks for for jewels info. Keep posting,...do not let the trolls eg 'lewisham ranger' deter you. I'm sure most here are able to differentiate the genuine or sincere posts and those from chavs or charlatans.
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enjoyed reading your post domino
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