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Can any of you learned types help me out? I have done a bit of Googling and other research but to no end.
Is there a stated reason why his highness the Aga Khan only has horses in France and Ireland and wherever else but not in the UK? Probably to do with prizemoney but I've wondered this for a while and just seeing the winner at Leopardstown made me try this.
Thanks in advance.
Is there a stated reason why his highness the Aga Khan only has horses in France and Ireland and wherever else but not in the UK? Probably to do with prizemoney but I've wondered this for a while and just seeing the winner at Leopardstown made me try this.
Thanks in advance.
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DQ of Aliysa 1989 Oaks
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If i remember he had one disqualified in England once, although not by local stewards.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/racing-aga-khan-ends-four-year-boycott-1389790.html
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Beat me to it, WD mouse
I couldn't remember the name, but thought it was late 80's  |
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In that article it says he was intending to have horses trained here again, but I'm not sure he ever did. Not sure why he changed his mind on that.
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He had horses with Stoute much more recently than that surely?
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One of his horses was disqualified for testing positive for a banned substance that was in his feed. I can’t remember all the details but I think Stoute trainee the animal. He appealed, lost the case and moved his horses to Ireland and France. He was very angry.
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He had horses with Stoute until 2006, notably Kalanisi.
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Thanks people. I did see in passing an article from yonks ago when he was going to end his boycott over doping but no change since then! He certainly can hold a grudge!
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Has runners with stoute til 2005/06 im nearly sure.
Oxx was the main man outsude of France til 2013 then he shifted them all over to Weld Halford always got the absolute scraps (backward types) with adequate success... Dezangles used to get a fair spread of nice types but hes almost disappeared from training quality animals.. Basicaslly A De Royer Durpre IS AGA Khan LTD Has an entire separate yard training all the beautiful families. |
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that article is 1994..he did have horses subsequently with Stoute and Cumani
the relevant point is his lack of trust of the drug testing procedure his studs are in France and Ireland ... so no point in having them training in Britian |
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 I'd forgot about Kalanisi etc because there was nothing like the furore when he pulled out for the second time. |
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one of several owners cumani has lost
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Simple answer no one is above the rules of racing , well back then anyway
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Unlike the Maktoums, with all their MUTTAFUQAH cr@p, the Aga Khan's horses always had beautiful sounding names, even although they were foreign.
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Art Decko - Leaving aside that your post is almost total bollocks, a suggestion. Do some research?
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Research completed.
Aga Khan horses :Darshaan, Daylami, Dalakhani, Vereva, Zarkava. Maktoum horses : MUTAFAJER, MUTADAREK, MUTAKAAREB, MUTAFARREJ, MUTASAWWAR. Game, set, and match to Dekko, methinks. |
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^ Bet Derek was upset at being called a MUTT.
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Mutasawway means Brian The Snail. Fact!
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These are Hamdan al Maktoums major winners.....
I just did the UK 2,000 Guineas: Nashwan (1989) Haafhd (2004) Epsom Derby: Nashwan (1989) Erhaab (1994) 1,000 Guineas: Salsabil (1990) Shadayid (1991) Harayir (1995) Lahan (2000) Ghanaati (2009) Epsom Oaks: Salsabil (1990) Eswarah (2005) Taghrooda (2014) St. James's Palace Stakes: Marju (1991) Bahri (1995) Coronation Stakes: Al Bahathri (1985) Ghanaati (2009) Queen Anne Stakes: Lahib (1992) Prince of Wales's Stakes: Muhtarram (1994 & 1995) Nayef (2003) Ascot Gold Cup: Ashal (1990) Eclipse Stakes: Nashwan (1989) Elmaamul (1990) Mukhadram (2014) King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes: Nashwan (1989) Taghrooda (2014) International Stakes: Nayef (2002) Queen Elizabeth II Stakes: Lahib (1992) Maroof (1994) Bahri (1995) Champion Stakes: Nayef (2001) Haafhd (2004) Falmouth Stakes: Al Bahathri (1985) Alshakr (2000) Tashawak (2002) King's Stand Stakes: Dayjur (1990) Golden Jubilee Stakes: Atraf (1996) Malhub (2002) July Cup: Hamas (1993) Elnadim (1998) Nunthorpe Stakes: Dayjur (1990) Haydock Sprint Cup: Dayjur (1990) Dewhurst Stakes: Alhaarth (1995) Mujahid (1998) Middle Park Stakes: Fard (1994) Hayil (1997) Awzaan (2009) Racing Post Trophy: Al Hareb (1988) Lowther Stakes: Al Bahathri (1984) Fillies' Mile: Aqaarid (1994) Republic of Ireland Ireland Irish Derby: Salsabil (1990) Irish 1,000 Guineas: Al Bahathri (1985) Mehthaaf (1994) Matiya (1996) Bethrah (2010) Irish Champion Stakes: Elmaamul (1990) Muhtarram (1993) Not that many M's. Do you want Sheikh Mohammeds as well? |
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MUTARE (1985)MU-TADIL (1992)MUTAMAM (1995)MUTAMID (2012)MUTARAN (1997)MUTAYAM (2000)MUTAAQEB (2015)MUT'AB (USA) (2005)MUTAFANI (1987)MUTAFANI (2015)MUTAH (USA) (1987)MUTAYYAM (2013)MU TAZZ (FR) (2010)MUTABASER (2010)MUTADAREK (2001)MUTAFAJER (2007)MUTAFANEN (2001)MUTAJALLY (2010)MUTAMANNI (1990)MUTAMAYEZ (2006)MUTANAKER (2007)MUTANAQEL (2015)MUTARAAMI (2006)MUTARAKEM (2013)MUTARE (IRE) (2001)MUTASADDI (2006)MUTAYASER (2008)MUTAZAMEN (2010)MUTAZZ (USA) (1992)MUTADDA (USA) (2004)MUTADHAMEN (2012)MUTAFARREJ (2012)MUTAHADETH (1994)MUTAJARRED (2004)MUTAKAAREB (2001)MUTAKARRIM (1997)MUTAKAYYEF (2011)MUTAMAASHI (2006)MUTAMARRAD (1999)MUTAMARRES (2003)MUTAMARRID (1988)MUTANAAWAL (2012)MUTANAWWER (2009)MUTARAAKIM (2007)MUTARED (IRE) (1998)MUTARID (USA) (1985)MUTASAWWAR (1994)MUTASAYYID (2012)MUTASSEM (FR) (2001)MUTAWAASEL (2012)
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Art - how many would be one 26th of the Maktoum's horses. Would you like a complete list of the M's?, It might make you feel a little better.
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He certainly can hold a grudge!
he forgave Soumillon pretty quickly |
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Don't forget the ALMUTA wons as well.
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Erhaab is a pleasant name.
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Mouse ...don't even get me started on the ALMU's ...
AL MUJIL (1987)ALMUDER (2009)ALMUFTI (2016)ALMUHIT (1988)ALMUHEET (2011)ALMUROOJ (1995)ALMUS (IRE) (1992)AL MUDAFAA (2010)AL MUJAHID (2004)AL MUKHDAM (2010)ALMUASHAA (1998)ALMUDO (IRE) (2004)ALMUHALAB (2011)ALMULABBI (1989)ALMURR (IRE) (2016)ALMUSA (IRE) (2004)AL MUFTI (USA) (1985)AL MUTHANAA (2007)ALMUDIN (USA) (1999)ALMUHTARAM (1992)ALMUJTA (IRE) (1995)ALMUKTAHEM (2006)ALMUNIA (IRE) (2001)ALMUSHMMIR (1982)ALMUTAWA (FR) (2012)ALMUTEN (JPN) (2014)ALMUTWO (IRE) (2003)AL MUBHEJ (USA) (1999)AL MUDEER (USA) (2009)AL MUHEER (IRE) (2005)AL MUJAHAZ (FR) (2015)AL MUNADEL (FR) (2007)AL MURQAB (IRE) (2010)AL MUSHEER (FR) (2011)AL MUTAHM (USA) (1988)AL MUTHANA (FR) (2011)ALMU DENA (SPA) (1993)ALMUDENA (PER) (2007)ALMUHIMM (USA) (1992)ALMUKALA (IRE) (2014)ALMUNGID (USA) (1999)ALMUNTASSER (1992)ALMURAAD (IRE) (2001)ALMUSAFA (USA) (2009)ALMUTAN STAR (1995)ALMUTASADER (2000)ALMUTAWAKEL (1995)AL MUALLIM (USA) (1994)AL MUFFRIH (IRE) (2015)AL MUKAALA (IR |
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Didn't he move his Irish horses from Oxx to Weld.
Also remember he was not happy with Johnny Murtagh when he was riding and training. I think a Murtagh trained horse beat an Aga horse ridden by Murtagh for Oxx |
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Decko - you are making my point for me.
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