stewards brighton

cut him right up

Deffo cost the runner up the race

that was terrible

looked under his arm and done him

Would never have got past it

2nd hmp but didnt snatch it up..

the look under the arm from Luke was the giveaway

you're not going there mate

Half a length, no doubt it cost the jolly the race.

Absolutely no way it cost 2nd the race.

FPP bets will say great ride morris

And Morris knew what he was doing and it was deliberate yet nothing will be done under present rules

did it lose a nose ?  no.  end of stewards ...

Who the fk is betting that at 1.2?

Morris was doing just enough late on so winning distance of half a length is misleading.

1.2 is insane

Winner tougher than the second. winner keeps it

Do they chuck them if it is deemed dangerous riding?

I think the runner up wouldve won personally and it should go

im not sure its cost it the race but steards can do anything you dont expect.

Stewards should ask how after the look under the arm you thought there was room to go across when that should have told you there wasn't.

think had Dobbs shown a bit more vigour when in the clear in the final furlong he might have got his mount closer and given himself more of a chance in the SE

If Dobbs got busy after the carve up he would have got that much closer. Close enough for a reverse. I think not much chance now.

braemar wouldve won that, utterly convinced, if they dont overturn that they arent fit for purpose

I'll eat my hat if the winner gets thrown out.

Winning distance should save the fptp.

watching a different race to me. Dobbs was much busier than Morris in the final furlong imo

be very surprised that is thrown 1.3 seems generous if thats your thing

runner up still had a tankful under him

Twoboyz    08 Jun 18 16:20 
Do they chuck them if it is deemed dangerous riding?

you can have 1000 its dangerous riding.

would dobbs be any good in the enquiry? Suspect Morris would be better

Jun 8, 2018 -- 4:23PM, jamesdean wrote:

runner up still had a tankful under him

exactly, braemar was cruising and lost all momentum

As always not quite sure of the rule but don't they need to be convinced the runner up would have won - you can't possibly be certain - but stewards a law unto themselves right

only cuz Morris knew the race was his at that point

Just a question whether they feel comfortable throwing a 1/2 length winner out

braemar was never get past, the filly keep finding and braemar does what he does finishing 2nd again

Why did Luke Morris ease the winner slightly inside the last furlong?

If he wins a length not a prayer of this being overturned.

didn't see him morris says

Didn't see him

Morris must be in trouble but wrong to throw it out

Clearly looked and done him. If that is ok by the stewards he keeps it, if not he's out.

didn't see him

should be chucked for that comment alone

luke morris - "I didnt see him" aye fecking right

horse racing is full of cheats, fact

Unlikely to get reversed but I am not going to change my position on Braemar and the current price. Dobbs very poor there and took far to long to reorganise the horse. Of course Morris knew what he was doing and for me it was dangerous riding regardless of making Dobbs looking amateurish.

The three time runner up isn't getting it

the WORLD is full of cheats

No surprise if this gets chucked

whos cheated who?

result stands

whats the point of these stewards if they never act

bit of a joke that it stands - I mean the stewards just don't like changing results regardless of the rules - utter pointless them being there.

A nose & it goes.

Amazing that some people thought that should go.

In France or America the result would be reversed.

so basically u can do whatever u want aslong as u win by more than a nose? lol the whole industry is bent

a length and no stewards

Right result

Brilliant. Braemar goes down as an 'unlucky loser' and we get another chance to lay it at odds on next time.

With any luck Dobbs will keep the ride too.

correct result.

Keeping the race is fine but stewards all around the country should be forced to look at this race and conclude a clear 'look' and taking of ground is ok under similar circumstances. Then we would all know the score but we all know the same thing could happen tomorrow and it gets chucked out.

SlippyBlue    08 Jun 18 16:31 
In France or America the result would be reversed.

its brighton

Luke cautioned. An admission from the stewards that they saw the look under the arm but are doing feck all about it

Quite surprised they had an enquiry, PR only as the second still had every chance and the result was not affected.

Shocking clearly looked under his left arm and shut the door and then to say I didnt see him that tells you guilt that said Dobbs took wrong decision ponce ride

Lack of knowledge on here is astounding

why was he cautioned if he did nothing wrong?

interpretation of rules

Well done try my best, you were correct about a 1.2 shot

Your knowledge is 2nd to none

if you backed the runner up at least you can take something from morris getting cautioned ...

it seems we are complete the opposite to usa racing rules.anyone can see that it should of been reversed.uk racing stewards a joke.

just protects the paymaster bookmakers who pay on 2 results

Jamesmead= bonehead

sit 2 horses off rails, if he goes up inside , half him in two, if he goes right you have the option of pushing him wider.
all legal, but...

Ryan Moore would have got it overturned ,

Bonehead? 

Anyone using that term over the age of 12 needs ignoring..

Morris would have talked a good game there imo. There was a chance it could have gone. Only getting cautioned is a joke.

Perhaps Brighton stewards take the camber into account due to experience,,,

I'll be ignoring you thats for sure. Clueless

Jun 8, 2018 -- 4:37PM, lookafter your broom wrote:

Ryan Moore would have got it overturned ,

If Ryan was on the horse would of won and no stewards required

If my nan was on the horse would of won and she's dead

After watching that ride arent we all through shock

Jun 8, 2018 -- 4:31PM, GRANTCKING wrote:

so basically u can do whatever u want aslong as u win by more than a nose? lol the whole industry is bent

Tbf, 1 won a head last Friday & got chucked very quickly.

although the runner up was hmp 2 out,the winner was dossing last half fur..they have to be sure the 2nd would have won..very hard to deduce that happened.

they dont have to be sure... balance of probabilities init

It really is that simple, unless the stewards are nearly certain the interference costs the 2nd the race the result will stand.

TheFear    08 Jun 18 16:47 
they dont have to be sure... balance of probabilities init
NOW WE KNOW    08 Jun 18 16:48 
It really is that simple, unless the stewards are nearly certain the interference costs the 2nd the race the result will stand.

correct.

An enquiry was held to consider the placings in this race after interference approximately 1 ½ furlongs out
when the winner, ALTRA VITA, ridden by Luke Morris, interfered with BRAEMAR, placed second, ridden
by Pat Dobbs. The Stewards considered that the interference had not improved ALTRA VITA’s placing as
although the winning distance was only ½ length, the interference occurred far enough away from the
finish that there was enough time for BRAEMAR to regain its momentum. In addition, the interference
suffered was only minimal, with Dobbs only to having to ease momentarily. Morris was cautioned for
careless riding as he had allowed ALTRA VITA to drift left towards the rail when not sufficiently clear.

But not enough to lose it half a length?

Not the stewards finest moment in explaining their decision.

you could tell by morris's atr interview before he even went in the stewards room that he was going to bully his way to keeping the race. They should televise them so we can see if the other jock is doing enough to try and get the race

a shocking elucidation imo

screaming from beneaththewaves 08 Jun 18 16:31 Joined: 30 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 10,757 | Blogger: screaming from beneaththewaves's blog
Brilliant. Braemar goes down as an 'unlucky loser' and we get another chance to lay it at odds on next time.

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Ta. Much obliged.

Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Braemar    1.96    500.00    Lay    21-Jun-18 01:16    500.00
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    0.00
Lay subtotal:    500.00
Market subtotal:    500.00
Commission @ 3.6%:    18.00
Net Market Total:    482.00