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Colonel Trautman
12 Apr 18 10:43
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Back or Lay?seems a pretty good price (back) tbh???
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Report Boxman April 12, 2018 11:03 AM BST
terrible record for returning placed Gold Cup Horse - Kauto , Denman etc all beaten plus imo he had a hard race. I would not back at 10/11
Report Cork Langer April 12, 2018 11:59 AM BST
a race where if forced to choose something, the two fresher horses would make most appeal to me
Report kipling April 12, 2018 12:54 PM BST
I think it's a lay. If it can find a way of dodging it, it will.
Report olddesperado April 12, 2018 1:21 PM BST
What a stupid statement.

What has he ever dodged ?.

The time he ran across the track at chelts he picked up again when whisper came at him.
Any horse can fall and he lost absolutely nothing in defeat in the GC.

If he gets beaten today it wont be attitude but maybe the effects of the GC on heavy ground and soft again today.
Report Movewiththetimes April 12, 2018 1:34 PM BST
My Nap came here last year and won after winning RSA, this looks an easier race.
Report know all April 12, 2018 1:38 PM BST
First time hood trainer around 20% so positive good price but not too many disappointed from chelt so far and good break 4 weeks years ago used to be 2 weeks and we think of those times
Report Diff-rent April 12, 2018 1:43 PM BST
Tough race last time. But as mentioned this is a lot easier.

Nicky is a good judge of these things normally. But even he can get the odd one wrong !
Report Magic__Daps April 12, 2018 1:55 PM BST
I have backed it, agree with olddesperado 100%. If it is beat then sobeit, but I think the 10/11 was/is overpriced.
Report domino14 April 12, 2018 2:04 PM BST
Has to be the banker bet for your £50 bet at Aintree and get a £50 free bet for tomorrow tbh.
Report kipling April 12, 2018 2:47 PM BST
What a stupid statement.

What has he ever dodged ?.

The time he ran across the track at chelts he picked up again when whisper came at him.
Any horse can fall and he lost absolutely nothing in defeat in the GC.

If he gets beaten today it wont be attitude but maybe the effects of the GC on heavy ground and soft again today.
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To my eye it wasn't that he didn't stay in the Gold Cup, it was that he had no appetite for a fight in the last hundred or so yards. When he tried to run out at Cheltenham the previous year, it was the sheer effort of De Boinville that got him straightened up to beat the handicapper Whisper. If you're are going to throw personal insults about at least keep up with the facts.
Report Willie Shafter. April 12, 2018 2:51 PM BST
said it for 30yrs..

NEVER BET A HORSE AT AINTREE THAT RAN AT CHELTENHAM.

seen more run flat than had hot dinnas.
Report dessiestar April 12, 2018 2:53 PM BST
Wins and wins well for me
Report Movewiththetimes April 12, 2018 3:02 PM BST
Cool
Report know all April 12, 2018 3:02 PM BST
the old days when 10 days -14 days for Aintree after Cheltenham them days no longer
Report domino14 April 12, 2018 3:04 PM BST
Nice £50 win at 10/11 and thanks for the free £50 sportsbook bet because of it Betfair, otherwise would have bet it on the exchanges.
Report olddesperado April 12, 2018 3:29 PM BST
No problem kipling,

Sorry if I came over a bit sharp.

I hate people knocking him without any basis purely because of kempton and the rsa last year when he was just a novice.

Kempton was just one of those things and the rsa could have been any number of things and he was fine since.

Horse is as genuine as they come imo but at least you put up why you think he's not in your second post and its a game of opinions after all.
Report kipling April 13, 2018 2:12 PM BST
That's OK Oldsep. We all have our opinions. Might Bite won well yesterday but notice de Boinville kept him wide of the other horse. For a reason.
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