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Thelastfling
17 Mar 18 21:18
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Just noticed it's gone up from £1.99 online to £2.99. That's some hike for effectively the same product. I was presuming the hike was for the festival but it seems we're still paying £2.99 for the crap Sunday fodder. Anyone know if this is a permanent price hike?
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Report StewB March 17, 2018 8:30 PM GMT
I used to buy it everyday cost me a fortune  I havent bought it for around 5.6 years now, think of the money I have saved Happy
Report StewB March 17, 2018 8:31 PM GMT
5/6 years*
Report Deptford March 17, 2018 8:34 PM GMT
It went up from £2.40 to £2.90 in one hit, first time in 35 years I have not bought a racing paper for one of the festivals, the editor is a clown
Report xmoneyx March 17, 2018 8:41 PM GMT
he ain't Irish
Report tommac March 18, 2018 3:36 PM GMT
Wait for Aintree before you buy the the Racing Post.You will not be missing anything as regards racing and teach the Racing post to have some respect for its regular customers.Wait till Mid april.
Report Zodiac March 18, 2018 4:08 PM GMT
IF YOU CANT AFFORD £3 A DAY FOR THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE RACING PAPER IN THE WORLD,,,

FOR ALL SPORTS  ,, YOU SHOULDN'T BE GAMBLING ... FACT !!!

PAY THE MONEY AND MOVE ON FFS Wink
Report bettinghelp March 18, 2018 4:11 PM GMT
50 grand over a betting lifetime.

Peanuts, innit?
Report parispike March 18, 2018 4:16 PM GMT
IF you can make 10% ROI you need to bet £10,000 pa to recover the cost of the paper. What’s more you have spend your cash propping up a paper that has the interests of bookmakers, not punters, as its raison d’etre. No thanks.
Report tommac March 18, 2018 4:37 PM GMT
Zodiac-we do not all work for the Racing Post-we work for the Sporting Life.Take a chill pill.
Report Zodiac March 18, 2018 4:47 PM GMT
TOMMY ,,, POINT TAKEN !!!

BUT £3 IN A DAYS PUNTING,,, WITH THE BEST INFO IN THE FREE WORLD .,,

SURELY IS INSIGNIFICANT ????

If you cant afford it ,,, you should not be gambling .. FACT !!!!!!!!!
Report Deptford March 18, 2018 4:54 PM GMT
It has nothing to do with being able to afford it, it is the price rise, which is a rip off, they could do away with every tipster and gravy train journalist, just print the form, job done
Report grayhawk March 18, 2018 4:58 PM GMT
Have finally succumbed after buying it religiously since the first issue.....would get a mate to buy it when i went on holiday and even phoned the Post itself for a copy when i couldn't find an edition with the pre season football in....have never went more than one day without a copy until not buying one yesterday and today...

Will buy it the odd time i go racing but that's it for me...... can't justify paying over a grand a year for a paper that is all for bookmakers and not punters
Report xmoneyx March 18, 2018 5:05 PM GMT
why don't they put 50% bookies advertising in, to bring price down

on they do ExcitedCry
Report isleham March 18, 2018 5:12 PM GMT
daily mail 65p racing post £2.90..someone not controlling their overheads
Report blackbarn March 18, 2018 5:22 PM GMT
Daily Mail circulation = 1.4m.  Racing Post circulation = 40k.     Scale is a significant factor.
Report blackbarn March 18, 2018 5:31 PM GMT
I seem to be the only one who ever defends this organ!!   Firstly I too think £2.90 for the daily rag is ridiculous and its pro-bookmaker, anti-punter positioning is very annoying.  BUT I happily pay £30 a month for on-line membership that gives me all the form stuff I need, all the pedigree/breeding stuff I need, plus unlimited race-replays and now a down-loadable and printable version of the newspaper itself.   Each to his own I guess.
Report sparrow March 18, 2018 6:15 PM GMT
I think I will now go for this downloadable and printable version from next week.
Report jmdc March 18, 2018 6:23 PM GMT
Will the Dundalk form be there sparrow?
Report mouse muldoon March 18, 2018 6:30 PM GMT
Dundalk is usually available under menu > supplements.
Report sparrow March 18, 2018 6:45 PM GMT
I never bother with Dundalk jmdc. I was just making the point on Friday.
Report Virgin March 18, 2018 7:17 PM GMT
200 experts Mischief don't come cheap Blush
Report Racingqueen March 18, 2018 7:18 PM GMT

I seem to be the only one who ever defends this organ!!   Firstly I too think £2.90 for the daily rag is ridiculous and its pro-bookmaker, anti-punter positioning is very annoying.  BUT I happily pay £30 a month for on-line membership that gives me all the form stuff I need, all the pedigree/breeding stuff I need, plus unlimited race-replays and now a down-loadable and printable version of the newspaper itself.   Each to his own I guess.


Well said. IMHO the paper is a waste of space(Glorified bookies advertisement) but the online form database is now as good as it gets and worth the money imho
Report spyker March 19, 2018 11:30 AM GMT
I'm not a member (well i was years ago but don't log in) and i can read all the form i want - not pedigree in detail  but all the form is there to read.
Report Deptford March 19, 2018 1:27 PM GMT
Members only today, Tip like a pro, Paul Kealy lifts the lid on how he picks big price winners, fooking comic
Report xmoneyx March 19, 2018 1:42 PM GMT
likes the names of the HORSES?
Report blackbarn March 19, 2018 1:48 PM GMT
Deptford - The "pro" is not short for professional, it is short for the pro that means - "put (oneself or one's talents) to an unworthy use for personal or financial gain".
Report mouse muldoon March 19, 2018 1:58 PM GMT
I'm looking forward to the handicapping feature tomorrow. I've never been able to make much sense of their ratings but this should explain how they work.
Report dalbers March 19, 2018 6:18 PM GMT
Just back in from telling the local newsagent I'm going digital for the Racing Post from tomorrow.

Newsagent not surprised in the slightest, especially when I showed her the cost of the digital alternative on her office laptop.

We used to joke that you could set your watch by the Racing Post going up a few pence on the pre-Cheltenham Monday each year but she was genuinely gobsmacked when she saw the 50p weekday hike this time.

Like me, she's in her 40's and fully understands how much of a generational thing it is when it comes to demand for newspapers because she's struggling like never before to attract teenagers for house-deliveries because they can't be bothered to get up early each morning to deliver a type of product they regard as long past its sell-by concept in the first place !!

So I've taken out the £299 annual option online and, effectively, that gives me the chance to skim through each day's issue before deciding on the very few days I'd still like a paper copy either when I going racing or want to have as a souvenir to go with the many highlights I've archived over the years.

But given this latest huge price rise, I've got to decide "nothing worth archiving" on only 104 issues over the next 12 months and I'll be into profit compared to paying £2.90 a day.

That target of 104 should be a doddle with weekdays in Nov/Dec/Jan/Feb easily covering over half that figure.
Report sparrow March 19, 2018 6:22 PM GMT
Like me, she's in her 40's and fully understands how much of a generational thing it is when it comes to demand for newspapers because she's struggling like never before to attract teenagers for house-deliveries because they can't be bothered to get up early each morning to deliver a type of product they regard as long past its sell-by concept in the first place !





And there's me thinking we all just did it for the money.
Report dalbers March 19, 2018 6:40 PM GMT
"The money" yes, of course, that was important.

But kids these days can earn that same sort of money doing things they either believe in, like serving their friends amongst others in Saturday shop jobs, or understand will get them a chance to see how the real world works like working behind the scenes in a supermarket, a fast-food outlet or a warehouse.

Being forced to get out of bed earlier than their pals just to go out in all weathers to bung the dead-tree press through a few letterboxes is way down the 2018-teenager's list of wage-earning options.

Both the nearest home-delivering newsagents to my mother's house gave up even trying to attract teenage deliverers several years ago, much preferring to sign up adults wanting to top-up the money they were already earning later in the day doing house-to-house junk mail leaflets.
Report xmoneyx March 19, 2018 6:51 PM GMT
with 4k HD 65 inch tv . its like your there
Report Deptford March 19, 2018 6:58 PM GMT
Watch X Hamster on it ^, that seems like you are there!!
Report Barton Bank March 19, 2018 6:59 PM GMT
When I picked up today's RP it was so thin, I had to check that none of the pages were missing.
Report xmoneyx March 19, 2018 7:03 PM GMT
why wuld I watch a hamster
Report Deptford March 19, 2018 7:07 PM GMT
Have a look
Report BigField March 19, 2018 7:13 PM GMT
you may find the odd hamster on there, there's all sorts!!
Report xmoneyx March 19, 2018 7:28 PM GMT
ffs WhoopsExcited
Report mouse muldoon March 19, 2018 7:29 PM GMT
Any monkeys?
Report BigField March 19, 2018 7:30 PM GMT
bit racist that
Report onlooker March 19, 2018 7:42 PM GMT
Judging by the responses - and on similar threads, aswell - This latest 50p per copy price increse could become the Racing Post's -

'Gerald Ratner moment'.
Report parispike March 19, 2018 7:53 PM GMT
Well it certainly qualifies onlooker as it, like Ratner’s products were, is cr@p.
Report firstimevisor March 19, 2018 7:56 PM GMT
I can't think of many days in the last 30 years when I havn't bought the Racing Post, other than when out of the country. I have continued to buy it even after subscribing on-line out of pure habit.

I was always going to buy it for Cheltenham week but when I went to buy the paper this morning I had a moment of clarity. It was similar to when the **** went up 50p in one fell swoop, and I just quit about a week later.

On-line will do for me from now on
Report dalbers March 19, 2018 8:06 PM GMT
Not so sure it's a Ratner moment by the Racing Post.

More likely, a hefty and cynical nudge towards making nearly (if not) the whole business an online operation only with perhaps some sort of special printing contract to enable bulk bundles of the newspaper to be published and sent to each day's horse racing meetings as the one situation where the distribution costs associated with the newspaper version would be covered by selling plenty of copies from the same distribution destination.

Another option might be to print the paper version only on a Saturday (does anyone know how big an upward spike there is for each Saturday's sales compared to Sunday-to-Friday ?)

Any business that can sell the same output on the same day in different formats but with as wide a price gap as 82p (digital with extra facilities thrown in) and £2.90 (just the newspaper to hold and read) surely only sees an eventual future mainly in just one of those formats.

Given the overall sales mentioned elsewhere in this thread of 40,000 per day, it's financial suicide to be printing such a relatively low number of copies at each of 4 different print houses (3 in the UK plus a 4th in Rep-Ireland) and then distributing them in ones-&-twos to each newsagent across the land.

Not sure how strange it'll feel without the daily habit of having the Racing Post as a newspaper on my sofa or breakfast-table.

However, I gave up my Sunderland season-ticket 3 years ago reckoning that picking-&-choosing my games around different work commitments would be a more justifiable option given the scarcity of feel-good hone performances and I've been to only one game since (the glorious 3-0 win over Everton that kept us up by relegating both Newcastle and Norwich) so that's proved to be a very good "life moves on" decision !!
Report parispike March 19, 2018 8:10 PM GMT
What about the betting shop market dalbers?
Report Deptford March 19, 2018 8:14 PM GMT
I was in Corals week before last and started reading, on the front it said betting shop edition, £5.25!! Why would shop pay that? They could go paper shop for normal edition
Report saxon farm March 19, 2018 8:20 PM GMT
The £5-25 includes the wall display cards and form.
Report Deptford March 19, 2018 8:25 PM GMT
Ok, cheers Saxon
Report dalbers March 19, 2018 8:26 PM GMT
Good question/point about the betting shop edition, parispike & deptford.

Given most of the outlets buying the betting shop edition are chains of bookies also advertising in the Racing Post, I seriously wonder how many copies of that edition are actually sold at full face value with the rest factored into whatever the bookies are paying for their pages or half-pages in the normal newspaper.

And that betting shop edition is designed to be far more user-friendly for display purposes than the normal newspaper - for example, the page sequence is designed so that the evening dogs cards are on the back of the pages showing the morning dogs cards or South African races so that there's plenty of mid-afternoon time for the staff to swap those pages round and get double-use from the same sheets of newsprint.

Anyway, if the FOBT minimum stake crashes down, there won't be so many shops open and still needing their display edition.
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