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Personally I think it's very dangerous to write Faugheen off tomorrow, and I'd definitely not back an odds on shot against him.
After nearly 2 years off he came back with a fantastic performance. Consider he may have just needed time to get over that race in heavy ground after such an injury and lay off.
He was a 'cert' himself last year and the best hurdler in training before getting injured, now he's given no chance. I don't buy it...
Willie Mullins will have him 100% for tomorrow, conditions will be fine. I can see him see him being smashed in the market and running very close.
Buveur D'Air is obviously very good and will also go close, but he's beaten nothing this year and isn't as good as Faugheen at his best.
8.8 for Faugheen is far too big IMO.
After nearly 2 years off he came back with a fantastic performance. Consider he may have just needed time to get over that race in heavy ground after such an injury and lay off.
He was a 'cert' himself last year and the best hurdler in training before getting injured, now he's given no chance. I don't buy it...
Willie Mullins will have him 100% for tomorrow, conditions will be fine. I can see him see him being smashed in the market and running very close.
Buveur D'Air is obviously very good and will also go close, but he's beaten nothing this year and isn't as good as Faugheen at his best.
8.8 for Faugheen is far too big IMO.
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I agree. Fav has looked good against lesser stuff. Substandard Champion last year IMO.
EL11 , this cert ok its won in a canter. . but you can only beat the opposition .. its not his fault .. or the trainers fault .... they will bet odds on 7/1 bar..
@Zipper, I agree he can only beat what's in front of him, But it's more difficult to improve without being tested in small fields.
EL11...
fill your boots on Faugheen ... and never forget you got the value.... you know my take
on value......
fill your boots on Faugheen ... and never forget you got the value.... you know my take
on value......
His idea of value might be different to yours zip, but not easy to prove who's right and who's wrong.
11/10 a coin flip is value..a price of a horse is purely opinion.
A price of a horse may not be purely opinion, as there are millions of situations where people connected to horses knew information that wasn’t in the public domain . You don’t have to have much of an opinion to lay a horse that you are laying for the jockey as well as yourself.
got a free £50 bet I can use on this race, can even do as £25 each way, think I should bang it on faugheen?
agree with John Francome that his first race back took a lot more out of Faugheen than first thought and it has taken a few races to get himself back, agree with poster that wouldn't want to back odds on with Faugheen in race
I will be having a sly bit EW on Elgin too. Looks a fair bet outside the front two.
He's no chance despite holding several antepost vouchers acquired post the Morgiana. But for being a Mullins/Ricci's runner he'd be nearer 20/1 than a present 6/1.
Looking to lay in-running to hopefully retrieve stake money; only way is if he goes off infront by a long chalk.
Looking to lay in-running to hopefully retrieve stake money; only way is if he goes off infront by a long chalk.
The only chance he has is if Geraghty messes up.
He wasn't as good as Buveur D'Air at his best. He wasn't as good as loads of previous Champions. Too many people swallowed Chapman's nonsense.
Beating Arctic Fire by a diminishing length and a half cuts no mustard at the top table whatsover.
He wasn't as good as Buveur D'Air at his best. He wasn't as good as loads of previous Champions. Too many people swallowed Chapman's nonsense.
Beating Arctic Fire by a diminishing length and a half cuts no mustard at the top table whatsover.
The only chance he has is if Geraghty messes up.
*Happens often*
He wasn't as good as Buveur D'Air at his best. He wasn't as good as loads of previous Champions. Too many people swallowed Chapman's nonsense.
*He beat better horses and ran to higher ratings*
Beating Arctic Fire by a diminishing length and a half cuts no mustard at the top table whatsover.
*You must be having a laugh on this one. He was easing down with the race in the bag*
He may or may not win tomorrow, but he is far too good to bet against at the prices, and the above is complete nonsense...
*Happens often*
He wasn't as good as Buveur D'Air at his best. He wasn't as good as loads of previous Champions. Too many people swallowed Chapman's nonsense.
*He beat better horses and ran to higher ratings*
Beating Arctic Fire by a diminishing length and a half cuts no mustard at the top table whatsover.
*You must be having a laugh on this one. He was easing down with the race in the bag*
He may or may not win tomorrow, but he is far too good to bet against at the prices, and the above is complete nonsense...
I tend to agree wit 'differendrum'. My predicament is Faugheen is the middle leg of several trebles culminating with Samcro at 2/1 unfortunately. And I cannot cash out either.
Without going into Faugheen's personal journey, this race is simply not won by 10 year olds.
The great Sea Pigeon and Hatton's Grace the only 2 in the last squillion years who ironically both bagged it at 11 as well.
The great Sea Pigeon and Hatton's Grace the only 2 in the last squillion years who ironically both bagged it at 11 as well.
heavy going can be a great leveler and the fav looks good but odds on in a championship race in this going i will take it on with a couple of double figga pokes, elgin and and wicklow brave .
'Easing down'? Now that really is nonsense. Walsh was getting desperate for the line. It wouldn't have taken much further for him to have been run down.
If Getabird/Footpad win then he'll go down to 5's or less......big if obviously.
imagine what chapman will be like if faugheen wins...............doesn't bare thinking about...........but agree an huge danger...............think he will love the ground
User kevinglass • March 12, 2018 7:39 PM GMT
If Getabird/Footpad win then he'll go down to 5's or less......big if obviously.
Depends if Willies told his mates to press the pink or blue button
If Getabird/Footpad win then he'll go down to 5's or less......big if obviously.
Depends if Willies told his mates to press the pink or blue button
faugheen has no hope tommo these mother ****s are laying the guts out of him all across the broads he ll pull up
Surely going to trade a big, big deal shorter than the 8s that was on offer.
Some decent IR play
Some decent IR play
It will be a lot shorter when he comes up the hill in front 
I have a feeling Ruby might try Make A Stand tactics, much more flat out than usual
faugheen gonna piss this
BD just won - he was a bit free. Backers had their heart in their mouth. Well Done BD!
I concede defeat. Yorkhill is gone, and probably retire along with Faugheen.
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