Crazy to supplement.....

bar from the fav what have you got?

probably be single figure field and the owners are a big syndicate.

i could see him coming 3/4.

Well done Wayne btw........you two seem to click :)

Costs 20 grand to supplement or 500 quid for the entry.  Ridiculous.  He should have been given an entry.  Take the fave out, everything else much of a muchness.

He was 10lb wrong today, and has won.  The handicapper will have his say.

His targets are the Scottish CH or the County-or they were.

the race at aintree might suit him black cat.

Big black cat.....I fully agree...he should have been given an entry....take out the fav, and who knows.......

He's a 2m horse Knot-flat track and ground will suit-he's not a soft ground horse at all.

and yet he won today,,,,,with both the ground and the ratings/weights against him.....btw, he didn't just win ....he pissed up!!

Glad to read that Alan King is now thinking of supplementing him for the Champion hurdle....makes perfect sense.......only thing that doesn't, is why he wasn't entered in the first place!!

Exactly-this is an improving horse who they could have entered for next to nothing-now its going to cost an arm and a leg.

He's not a soft ground horse so further improvement likely.

Anyone know how much exactly it is to supplement for the Chamionship races at this stage ?

While I'd agree it's an extremely weak looking CH on paper, hosing up in a dross Kingwell is still a pretty abstract achievement in relation to the big one in March.

Around £20K Easy.

PS-you may consider it was a dross race but Elgin was up to 10lb wrong with some of the dross he beat.

Crazy ? Elite racing club members have a runner in a top race ,with some form of place chance.
Imagine they can afford the supplementary after the filly they sold for squillions .

It's a no brainer to supplement imo. 20K and prize money more likely 250000. Decent chance of a place in a small field. More chance of finishing in the first 3 in the champion than he would have in a county hurdle off his new mark. (sure to be up plenty). obviously he can't beat the fav unless that's way below par but nothing else in the race to be scared of.

20k seems very reasonable and given he clearly handles the track it looks worth having a dash given how the race may cut up.

BBC ... as I mentioned the horse won very impressively against some classy rivals, it was obviously not a 'dross race'
I do think it was a very poor Kingwell though and given the races recent history that it's not really pertinent as a CH trial. With top rated being 156 and several horses well held in hcaps this season taking part I think that is fair and accurate ? None of which denigrates this fine Duke of Marmalade (A sire who was foolishly discarded before time) gelding I hope !