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geoff m
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Finally gets under way.

Why on earth would another trainer want to "get at" Morrisons 60 ish rated maiden hcapper. SOunds a bit like tea fron china "far fetched"



The long-awaited Hughie Morrison anabolic steroid inquiry got under way on Tuesday with a dramatic claim that another trainer threatened to “get at” the filly at the centre of the case.

The hearing at BHA headquarters in London concerns a positive test for nandrolone taken from the Morrison-trained Our Little Sister after she had finished last in a two-mile handicap at Wolverhampton on January 14.

The names of the other trainer and her partner were put forward by Morrison’s barrister as “people who might be of interest” to the inquiry.

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By:
Eont
When: 20 Dec 17 10:58
Yes plus 3 others and his expert witness was dismissed.

I cannot believe the kitchen sink has not been blamed or the horses alleged fling with a certain Premiership Football manager was not mentioned.
By:
TheFear
When: 20 Dec 17 12:37
don't believe him but also don't believe it was a "random" test
By:
acey deucy
When: 20 Dec 17 15:11
I hear a rival female Trainer was mentioned....Any Ideas?
By:
NEVIS B
When: 20 Dec 17 15:18
Be interesting to find out!

I note no female trainers had a runner in said race
By:
onlooker
When: 20 Dec 17 17:46
4 Female Trainers had runners at the meeting.

2 Northern - 1 Midlands - 1 Southern.

However, McPherson did not suggest that either the trainer or her partner "pressed the plunger", or indeed instructed anybody else to do so, and the BHA dismissed their relevance to the case, having conducted interviews.
By:
frances melly,so is italy.
When: 20 Dec 17 17:51
Can we name names?
By:
Deltâ
When: 20 Dec 17 21:49
yes
By:
Facts
When: 21 Dec 17 09:41
The horse and/or the race it was running in, is an irrelevance. If someone has doped the horse, it was to ' get Morrison '
By:
TheFear
When: 21 Dec 17 10:24
going to the trouble of accessing steroids and then injecting them into a horse that was only tested by pure fluke. Ummm ok facts
By:
sparrow
When: 21 Dec 17 10:52
No matter what has happened here Morrison is not a trainer I would trust
By:
TheFear
When: 21 Dec 17 10:58
Why is that sparrow?
By:
Eont
When: 21 Dec 17 11:08
After reading various press reports that obviously do not show the full facts, this case feels a bit like a case in Australia where the drug was given to the wrong horse.

It is fair to say certain procedures at racecourses need review and improvements (assuming the racecourse follows them). Though in life in general procedures can usually be improved upon.
By:
foxy
When: 21 Dec 17 11:29
cant be bothered looking back at the fixture did g kellaway have a runner ?
By:
TheFear
When: 21 Dec 17 11:50
Pretty low to bring other trainers into it actually. They must be livid with him as the name will leak out. And other trainers' names will be thrown into the mix to tainting them as well. Good ol Hughie.
By:
sparrow
When: 21 Dec 17 11:53
TheFear    21 Dec 17 10:58 
Why is that sparrow?






I find that his horses cannot be relied upon to run to form and therefore never back them.  Do you trust him thefear?
By:
impossible123
When: 21 Dec 17 12:02
From what have been reported the "verdict" would have to be guilty, I believe, because nothing factual has come to light to suggest otherwise. But the penalty could vary from lenient to a short ban or suspension from racing given good past history and character / standing in the racing community.

I do not think he did what he had been accused of, though.
By:
TheFear
When: 21 Dec 17 12:16
i didn't have a big opinion on him before this case sparrow
By:
Facts
When: 21 Dec 17 12:20
TheFear    21 Dec 17 10:24 
going to the trouble of accessing steroids and then injecting them into a horse that was only tested by pure fluke. Ummm ok facts





So what's your theory - and the rational behind it ?
By:
carrot1960
When: 21 Dec 17 12:28
Hard to figure out what he needs most a theatrical agent or a ghost writer
By:
onlooker
When: 21 Dec 17 13:30
This case is certainly a very odd scenario.

Both sides - the BHA and Morrison - have offered something of 'Alice in Wonderland' 'evidence'.

Morrison's claim that, "another trainer threatened to 'get at' his filly."  - leaves the open question ... WHY?

TheBHA Enquiry has, "dismissed the relevance to the case, having conducted interviews."

On the other hand - the BHA maintain that the test on Morrison's filly was entirely, "RANDOM," - with the BHA Stipendiary Steward on duty having logged the test as such.

There is at least ONE RANDOM Test at every meeting.

64 horses were Declared for the meeting - 5 became non-runners.

Backer or Layer - at 58/1 - that the Morrison filly would RANDOMLY be tested?

20 days after the race - a BHA Inspection/Testing team turned up, unannounced, at DAWN at Morrison's stables - when Morrison would probably still be UNAWARE of the outcome of the random test on his filly at Wolverhampton.

75 horses were tested at his stables - and all were clear, including the filly Our Little Sister.

Only 5 horses in Morrison's yard are rated lower than (the currently 48-rated) Our Little Sister - who is hardly bred to be a broodmare, even if she were to win a race - so it is difficult to see what nefarious motivation there could be for trying to win this  £2,587 race.

It is truly fascinating ... from BOTH sides of the fence.
By:
onlooker
When: 22 Dec 17 12:19
Morrison fined £1,000 and escapes ban after conclusion of anabolic steroid case

By Tom Kerr
12:08PM, DEC 22 2017

Hughie Morrison has avoided a ban following the conclusion of the Our Little Sister doping case, with the disciplinary panel imposing a £1,000 fine after determining the trainer was not involved in administering an anabolic steroid to the filly.

This story is being updated and more news will follow shortly.
By:
TheFear
When: 22 Dec 17 12:24
what a terrible decision
By:
acey deucy
When: 22 Dec 17 12:35
Laughable.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 22 Dec 17 12:45
If they can establish that the drug was administered on the day then the whole case is laughable nevermind the outcome  given the reality of anabolic hormone peds and how they are used for sports performance
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 22 Dec 17 12:52
i.e if I took a shed load of steroids now my 100m times wouldn't improve at all by 2pm no training/rest/recovery/time etc to improve performance someone was probably out to get him
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 22 Dec 17 12:57
denzil , just out of interest , how fast due you usually run 100m without steroids Confused
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 22 Dec 17 13:01
including the break at halfway?
By:
pandora1963
When: 22 Dec 17 13:01
silver spoon trainer, friends with royalty, he will get off scot free
By:
geordie1956
When: 22 Dec 17 13:02
Presumably the "other" trainer has been accused of some considerable wrongdoing; can they litigate against Morrison as i don't see any evidence to substantiate his allegation
By:
elise
When: 22 Dec 17 13:02
a lot of this case doesn't make much sense
By:
Mick Sturbs
When: 22 Dec 17 13:04
So other trainers can now use the defence "i didn't do it someone was out to get me"
By:
TheFear
When: 22 Dec 17 13:10
of course mick. the trainers got what they wanted aided by the useless press
By:
geordie1956
When: 22 Dec 17 13:16
what does a "familiar" trainer have to do to get banned?
must be more than one set of rules available to be used by the BHA depending on the "name" involved when foul play involved
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 Dec 17 13:21
seems to me if its a low grade horse and you havnt got much to win you can use drugs without a care in the world,the only way to go is to treat him as though it was the derby fav and if he thinks theres skulduggery at play pass it on to the police
By:
TheFear
When: 22 Dec 17 13:27
The main thing to do is keep good records of the genuine medications you use. The BHA seem to love this! Hahahaha
By:
Dr Gonzo
When: 22 Dec 17 13:29
The latest in a long line of ludicrous decisions by the Judicial Panel.

They've concluded that it was done by some other person, whom they don't know, for a reason, which they also don't know. There doesn't seem to be shred of evidence provided to support that conclusion. I'd say it's laughable, but it isn't; it's a farce.

Regardless of the outcome relating to the original offence, some of the behaviour by Morrison, and those acting on his behalf, during the investigation is outrageous, and makes a complete mockery of the derisory 'punishment' he's been given.
By:
TheFear
When: 22 Dec 17 13:31
he's posh though and he went to the right school and has good family connections
By:
elise
When: 22 Dec 17 13:35
wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they got samples mixed up and had chased the wrong trainer, don't really have a great deal of faith in the bha and the running of the sport
By:
sewter lives again
When: 22 Dec 17 13:35
I wonder if he will apologize to the other trainer
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