breeders cup - sat

they could have got him fitter at home in a "race".

anyway, we will see the egg on my face in 10 minutes...

i wont be posting on this thread again if Highland Reel hoses up........lol

DK eachway here

see ya next year

Cliffs of Moher could run into a place here.

Chill,...horse racing is only a game, not a be all or end all.

Aberdonia sh1ttin it Big Time.

23.37 Beach Patrol small win gl ...

What is Ollie on about citing Talismanic and Decorated Knight (DK) as dangers? Did DK not win in the soft with a ground bias in the middle of the track? Talismanic? I'd think Seventh Heaven, track apart, is having her ground for the 1st time.

Angel for me

another boilover pmsl

best racing of the year etc etc

Beach Patrol 2nd

Night night

Got that right, placed back BP rather than HR to win

wd Aberdonia

stupid nick luck claims HR has run below form

horse racing bingo this stuff and its impossible .... impossible

Cliffs is a dog of a horse, strange as looked great in the Derby. No more excuses now though surely.

wtf was seamie doing pillock

Moore, what a rider? Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!

end of in running for the night as the filth channel ATR takes over fully. Grrr

Anyone who backed Cliffs Of Moher needs to be sectioned.

Or rather to be allowed to continue betting with a discount.

Bien joue Mr Fabre - watch out for Seventh Heaven if she goes to Japan, came from Mexico to finish 5th

Agree Ang. Mohar going the same way as US army ranger

Nov 4, 2017 -- 6:48PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:

Anyone who backed Cliffs Of Moher needs to be sectioned. Or rather to be allowed to continue betting with a discount.

A lot of people I know who make a good profit were willing to give him another spin.

Okay, 2 people. A lot is an exaggeration!

he's had a lot of spins has cliffs

Ignoring the dog track, the worst part of the track is the short run to the finishing line. Horrible place for racing

Nov 4, 2017 -- 6:46PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

Cliffs is a dog of a horse, strange as looked great in the Derby. No more excuses now though surely.

This year's US Army Ranger - Joseph will be training him for the Melbourne Cup this time next year...

Ibrahima Sonko    04 Nov 17 23:48 
Anyone who backed Cliffs Of Moher needs to be sectioned.

Or rather to be allowed to continue betting with a discount.




Perhaps you can inform us before the event in future.

triumph hurdle but too good for that really

Lets celebrate the worst breeders cup ever, i think lingfield have a similar card in the spring.

Back up to 12F was a valid reason to speculate on Mohar

RUK studio looks like a prohibition gambling den

tighter than Pelaw dogs track this place - cudnt back the "best horse in the world" in lucky last due to run style/current form round here cud you ?

Longer finishing straight and Highland Reel gets back up. Best horse in the race, track beat it

Are you accusing me of aftertiming, their are plenty of freds on here where i have said it before.

So what are you saying, you would had taken my opinion and changed your bet ?

Arrogate trying to do a Tiznow, here? And after a slump in form.

Gun Runner it has to be for me.

Your opinion is of no interest to me whether before or after the event. However, some people might get upset about being considered for sectioning after you had watched the race and decided to inform them.

they've already admitted it doesn't handle the track

win or lose, if you can't find better 2/1 shots to back than this there's no hope

I have n't heard them debate whether the tracks are suitable for such a showpiece meeting on RUK.

The whole event - on and off course - seems more spectacular when it's at Santa Anita to me.

why have RUK facked off before the classic???

A reasonable person reading this thread might suggest that this is not a meeting/location where you should consider investing your money.  I believe we have been here before!.

Mubtaahij might spring a surprise here.

A reasonable person reading this thread might suggest that this is not a meeting/location where you should consider investing your money.  I believe we have been here before!.

I remember this being said inthe very, very recent past, blackbarn.

Just been forced to switch to ATR. Weaver, the tool in the crown.

I'm on both O'briens

filth

Churchill ew and West Coast win in the last

Del Mar - never again

Maybe arrogate just sucks at this track. Crazy running it here again

Sticking with Arrogate, gl all

West Coast for me as well.

My heart is with arrogate, would love for it to restore his reputation

Your opinion is much welcome from me, i am always learning. At least now, i know you are angry after backing so many losers tonight.

I'm a good egg.

West coast here

RUK showing replay of Ascot Seriously

Garcia to Collect his second Classic

West Coast - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:107705393938 | Matched: 05-Nov-17 00:34:38     Back

Think what you like as to whether I'm losing or not, sonko. But someone who comes out with statements like yours concerning sectioning is anything but a good egg.

I'm sure he's a good yolk really

now I wish they'd get this frigging classic off I'm bored of this for another year

West Coast for me too

Arrogate gone at the start, wd Gun Runner backers

arrogone

whatever happened during/after dubai with that horse is a mystery but it sure aint a racehorse anyway

well that was fun, counting down the days to churchy next november not

too much tramadol to hide the pain nap .......

What happened with arrogate post meydan is the trainer kept running the horse on a track it seems to hate and shattered its confidence

The winner run well , he must have done to win

doesn't handle the track yes but look at that awkward break, head on 1 side, that's more than just the track

impossible to like baffert

Stick baffert beside asmusen and he seems likeable enough

Tricast paid out well here...64/1

Was expecting a lot less...2nd fav beats 3rd fav beats 4th...

Shame Churchill couldn’t break into that.

I think connections bottomed out Arrogate by running him at Meydan solely for that mega prize money after a hard race against California Chrome in the Classic.

Only time arrogate won at del mar it was by just under 2 lengths to Kristo, a nothing horse. Few weeks later it won by 13 lengths beating much much better horses and week later beat Chrome.

It hates the track!

I was dumbfounded by the decision to run Churchill on dirt. Judging by Lancaster Bomber's second in the Mile Turf, Churchill may well have won the latter race.

Dog racing. Throw any form books on the bonfire! American ballyhoo and bull. No class, no control, as straight as a Sidewinder and "Oh say can you see". Royal Ascot it certainly is not!

Dog racing. Throw any form books on the bonfire! American ballyhoo and bull. No class, no control, as straight as a Sidewinder and "Oh say can you see". Royal Ascot it certainly is not!

Awful track indeed. It reminded me of Catford dog track,...been once and never again; injury to dogs aplenty.

Reading these comments about greyhound racing reminds me of when Walthamstow held charity meetings in aid of the Injured Jockeys Fund. Horse racing people should bear this in mind when they are slagging off other sports.

this meeting gets less and less interesting each each. as far from being a world championship as you can get - most of the best European horses don't go and the Japanese don't seem interested.

gun runner won a g1 lto 8 length,form was there.

Some serious prize money - form should be there, just not track form

7/2 in to 2/1 off

7/2 in to 2/1 off

Del Mar city shuffle -the worst global racing event I've ever watched
Piss poor from start to finish

All you posters on here who obviously detest American racing and find The Breeder's Cup a joke: Did someone hold a gun to your head and force you

to watch /bet? Each to his own I say. If you can't stand it why are you watching?

Agreed, roggrain. They will all come back again next year moaning and groaning about how terrible it all is.

Some people are only happy when they're whingeing (nap)

I guess the BC only happens once a year, and there is no competition to it on the same evening eg Champions Day, Arc, Japan Cup, etc. And it is free to watch. Hence, why not? Nevertheless, next year if the track resembles that of a greyhound track again my participation will be extremely minimal or non-existent.

Gunner Runner (GR) had been installed fav post his win and the defeats of Arrogate at Del Mar. It was only a couple of days prior to the race that a significant amount of sentimental money arrived for Arrogate; professionals and horse racing punters/pundits did not support his price contraction. With the benefit of hindsight (again) GR offered the best value (3/1) than even Highland Reel and Lady Aurelia given known form; GR was a fresh horse and well drawn too.

Quite amused by all the time boffins making excuses for probably overrating Bolt D'Oro. Good Magic was arguably the most impressive winner of the two days and I know which one of the two I would rather go forward with.

I manged to win a few quid but I would have enjoyed it irrespective of the betting. Plenty of those favourites were not beaten by the track. They just ran shockers.

dont no whether the likes of nick luck would class himself as a racing purist or not, but imo racing isn't about horses been hard ridden into and out of tight bends

I thought the track was poor but you get people moaning every year. If you run some of the best horse from their respective states/countries then transport them somewhere they've never ran before at the end of the season then put on several G1's you're always going to get upsets.

I was reading this thread last night, dear me, whinge, whinge whinge. I enjoyed the meeting. Not everything is about making a profit. I'm off now singing this tune....

Where the cringe meets the whinge
Down at old Bet Fair
Take a swipe
Have a gripe
Take it too far

There is a frown on every face
After each and every race
Where the cringe meets the whinge
At Betfair

Correct .....mind winning does help .....it was a very good night for blindly backing stacks of outsiders at bsp

I personally think people don't take in to account the distances even most of the American horses have to travel when taking in to account whether horses will run to the same form. Even Gun Runner who won the distance he had to  to get to the Breeder cup would be the equivalent of a NewMarket trained horse going to race a couple of hundred miles East of Moscow.

MC. Post of the year!