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I wish he worked for the big four bookmakers.His early prices would be available to the many ,and not the few.
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The bloke is a chancer and an imbercile to boot"
A Prime Minister in waiting? My foot,...a calamity for the country, if so. He did not win the Election yet lauded as if he had; the Shadow Cabinet is politically repulsive and ignorant and can never be voted into power; they are equivalent to the Conference League.
The London Mayor Mr Sadiq Khan could/would not endorse him for the Election yet vehemently requested to speak at "his" Labour Conference post the Election; he then lauded him as the saviour/hero for Labour; much of a muchness does not necessarily mean Mr Jeremy Corbin is a hero, does it?
And as for Mr Sadiq Khan the bloke would/could sell his grandmother if it means winning one more vote in his satchel. Can anyone remember a worthwhile policy that could be attributed to Mr Sadiq Khan since he came into politics over the last two decades? I cannot,...even his former Law associate did not have a commendable word for him.
The London Mayor Mr Sadiq Khan could/would not endorse him for the Election yet vehemently requested to speak at "his" Labour Conference post the Election; he then lauded him as the saviour/hero for Labour; much of a muchness does not necessarily mean Mr Jeremy Corbin is a hero, does it?
And as for Mr Sadiq Khan the bloke would/could sell his grandmother if it means winning one more vote in his satchel. Can anyone remember a worthwhile policy that could be attributed to Mr Sadiq Khan since he came into politics over the last two decades? I cannot,...even his former Law associate did not have a commendable word for him.
Old school labour type - along with Foot , Callaghan , Wilson - genuine - but still a moron
gets the protest vote of the younger generation - but his Corbinista Commie politics are not
in sync with this brave new world. He's arrived on the scene 40 years too late.
gets the protest vote of the younger generation - but his Corbinista Commie politics are not
in sync with this brave new world. He's arrived on the scene 40 years too late.
couldnt agree more with the remarks made by Mr 123...
Thisclown promises a new, kinder style of politics then his team pester the Manchester people the day after the concert outrage trying to arrange a photo shoot with the emergency services ! The mayor and leader of manchester council took non stop phone calls while trying to manage the fall out of the bombing,if May had done half that the media would have been hysterical.
at least he sang "happy birthday" to his old girlfriend
If you're skint &/or a parasite, then Corbyn's your man.
As Dylan said: when you've got nothing, you've got nothing to lose.
As Dylan said: when you've got nothing, you've got nothing to lose.
^ Hold The Front Page: left winger tries to stifle free speech 
what surprises me is that he intends to nationalise the railways (best of luck with that) get all the pfi's under control etc
BUT no mention of the biggest rip off of all,,,, the banks and the insurance industries!
BUT no mention of the biggest rip off of all,,,, the banks and the insurance industries!
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Why nationalise the railways? If Labour are serious about nationalisation they ought to consider the energy companies? British Energy is history after being sold off to the highest bidder by the city spivs to boost their x'mas bonus thus the exorbitant prices joe public are paying. Soon there could be no British plc of significance left eg ARM been sold, Autonomy, etc. But unlike the British the Germans, French, Spanish and the Americans and others have been buying whilst the British are willing seller.
The PFI? Did they not know borrowing money from corporate loan sharks to pay for fanciful projects will eventually result in a haemorrhaging of their finances? As always no long term planning.
The PFI? Did they not know borrowing money from corporate loan sharks to pay for fanciful projects will eventually result in a haemorrhaging of their finances? As always no long term planning.
Looks like a few have egg on their face regarding Corbyn these days.
As for Khan, think Uber.
As for Khan, think Uber.
Only the deluded would vote for the party of fools. Corbyn is nothing but a chancer.
EVILROYSLADE 27 Sep 17 21:00
Only the deluded would vote for the party of fools. Corbyn is nothing but a chancer.
What does that even mean?
Only the deluded would vote for the party of fools. Corbyn is nothing but a chancer.
What does that even mean?
Ima. You really don't understand?? Let me explain. Corbyn is a chancer, given to making promises to the young and impressionable. Tuition fee crap etc. As for the remark "deluded"?
delude
dɪˈl(j)uːd/Submit
verb
past tense: deluded; past participle: deluded
make (someone) believe something that is not true.
"too many theorists have deluded the public"
synonyms: mislead, deceive, fool, take in, trick, dupe, hoodwink, double-cross, gull, beguile, lead on; More
delude
dɪˈl(j)uːd/Submit
verb
past tense: deluded; past participle: deluded
make (someone) believe something that is not true.
"too many theorists have deluded the public"
synonyms: mislead, deceive, fool, take in, trick, dupe, hoodwink, double-cross, gull, beguile, lead on; More
Roy,
Your synonyms apply to politicians of all parties. Politics is a horrible business infested by some horrible people.
Your synonyms apply to politicians of all parties. Politics is a horrible business infested by some horrible people.
Corbyn as PM would improve the country hugely. Its currently falling apart.
I know what deluded and chancer meanEVILROYSLADE but just don't really see how they are relevant to Corbyn.
What's so deluded about not having to directly pay for your education? Tuition fees are a relatively new thing and we got by for decades without them previously and Scotland has maintained free higher education, as have the majority of other European countries and it's actually England that is out of step here.
Maybe if a government of any colour (but very unlikely to be blue) cut off the tax loopholes to the likes of Amazon, Google, Starbucks and the rest, then that could go towards funding free tuition and then those benefiting from that, effectively pay it back in taxes when they start work. They could also start earning without being up to their eyeballs in debt and making getting on the property ladder a no-go for many young people, which then has a knock on effect in several other areas too.
What's so deluded about not having to directly pay for your education? Tuition fees are a relatively new thing and we got by for decades without them previously and Scotland has maintained free higher education, as have the majority of other European countries and it's actually England that is out of step here.
Maybe if a government of any colour (but very unlikely to be blue) cut off the tax loopholes to the likes of Amazon, Google, Starbucks and the rest, then that could go towards funding free tuition and then those benefiting from that, effectively pay it back in taxes when they start work. They could also start earning without being up to their eyeballs in debt and making getting on the property ladder a no-go for many young people, which then has a knock on effect in several other areas too.
EVILROYSLADE:
Did you see Dennis Skinners speech on Tuesday. When he gets on stage he forgets about his posh bird American partner Lois Blasenheim
who he lives with in millionaires row Cheyney Walk and paid £35K a year out of public funds when she was his researcher.
Did you see Dennis Skinners speech on Tuesday. When he gets on stage he forgets about his posh bird American partner Lois Blasenheim
who he lives with in millionaires row Cheyney Walk and paid £35K a year out of public funds when she was his researcher.
I agree totally with your latest post, ima_mazed66. But expecting May and her rich friends to end corporate tax loopholes is like expecting turkeys to vote for Christmas.
Labour did naff all about tax loopholes when they had the chance,actively encouraging big multi nationals to close down small shops all over the country whilst doing nowt.Labour introduced tuition fees with any Labour MP opposing it threatened with exposure to the media for everything from expenses to more lurid couplings.Labour took us into an illegal war at massive personal and financial cost with hundreds of Labour MP's outnumbering the honourable 130 that abstained or voted against.Labour signed off dozens of pfi contracts that hamper hospitals and education authorities with ongoing bills that are exhorbitant even now.Corbyn might say he can buy them out with cheap finance now but if they get in the rush on the pound (wargaming laff) will push up rates so quick we will be struggling to pay basic bills and have to lay off public sector staff faster than you can say Venezuela ! ffs grow up and stop dreaming of some socialist la la land,these clowns will destroy what we have and only then will you appreciate what socialism is all about.
If you want wonga wonga wonga , poundlands , more back street roulette bookmakers , the end of the NHS , more trickle down , keep voting for chairman may
have to lay off public sector staff faster than you can say Venezuela
Errr how will we be able to tell the difference from the past 6 years?
Errr how will we be able to tell the difference from the past 6 years?
If you think what has happened the past 6 years in this country is remotely similar to the ongoing chaos which is unfolding in Venezuela, then you are either ill-informed or deluded.
And if you think a Labour government under Corbyn would be comparable to Maduro then politics isn't something you should really be discussing. I say that as someone who certainly couldn't be labeled as a Corbynite too.
You chose to focus on the Venezuela part of the post I replied to when it was obviously public service staff cuts in the UK I was referring to.
There's not really much point highlighting what Labour did or didn't do last time unless you think Corbyn's, Watson's and McDonnell's leadership is the same as Blair's and Brown's.
Nah,it certainly wouldnt be, Momentum's approach would make Blair and Brown appear to be honest and reasonable democrats. McDonnell and Corbyn have already said that democracy doesn't work for them.They haven't given any confidence that all these extra jobs demanded by Mcluskey et al can be funded without crashing the economy.
Deptford 29 Sep 17 19:57
Horrible vile human being.
Assuming that's meant for Corbyn, what kind of fcuked up world do we live when someone who is caring and not an I'm all right Jack type, who often fights for the vulnerable and underprivileged is considered a "Horrible vile human being" or am I missing something?
Horrible vile human being.
Assuming that's meant for Corbyn, what kind of fcuked up world do we live when someone who is caring and not an I'm all right Jack type, who often fights for the vulnerable and underprivileged is considered a "Horrible vile human being" or am I missing something?
Ah, the OP was talking about a Jeremy Corbin and not Corbyn.
What stable does this Corbin fellow ride for 
Is he sir marks new George duffield
Is he sir marks new George duffield
Tories must be running scared if continual abuse aimed at Labour leader is indicative of their paucity of policies. Today's "let's attract the young" piffle is more deluded nonsense. The young vote now fully understand Tories offer nothing to a generation who will work till they drop for pitiful wages with no chance of home ownership. As each year passes the Tory vote will dwindle to hopeful oblivion.
Squabble amongst yourselves,but the answer is simple,and staring everyone in the face.
When 250,000 more enter this shrinking island,than leave,every year,of course there will be major problems.
Too many people to handle.NHS collapsing,because of overpopulation.
Schools unable to cope,due to overpopulation.
Housing shortage,and too expensive,due to overpopulation.
Road travel at crisis point,due to overpopulation
Train travel at crisis point,due to overpopulation
Countryside diminishing,due to overpopulation
Too many jobs paying minimum wage,due to overpopulation.
And we all know who favours the open door policy.
When 250,000 more enter this shrinking island,than leave,every year,of course there will be major problems.
Too many people to handle.NHS collapsing,because of overpopulation.
Schools unable to cope,due to overpopulation.
Housing shortage,and too expensive,due to overpopulation.
Road travel at crisis point,due to overpopulation
Train travel at crisis point,due to overpopulation
Countryside diminishing,due to overpopulation
Too many jobs paying minimum wage,due to overpopulation.
And we all know who favours the open door policy.
^ The compulsory hysterectomy party awaits, and I will welcome it!
The June election was Steptoe's best chance of winning. In the next few years his and John MarxDonnell's policies will be taken apart, to add to his idolatry of ghastly dictators from Saddam to Putin via Chavez and Assad. Rail priv is nothing, just waiting for leases to expire, but undoing all the other changes wrought since the mad socialist heyday of rthe 1970s will cost a fortune both in expenditure and days lost on strike action once the strike laws are rescinded.
My own fave Corbyn meme is:
What is the difference between Captain Birdseye https://twoweeksonedate.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/captain_birds_eye_196371a.jpg
and Jeremy Corbyn http://www.londonlovesbusiness.com/Pictures/web/k/n/b/Corbyn-_466.jpg
one is a creepy old guy who attracts young people by promising them free stuff, and the other is Captain Birdseye
My own fave Corbyn meme is:
What is the difference between Captain Birdseye https://twoweeksonedate.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/captain_birds_eye_196371a.jpg
and Jeremy Corbyn http://www.londonlovesbusiness.com/Pictures/web/k/n/b/Corbyn-_466.jpg
one is a creepy old guy who attracts young people by promising them free stuff, and the other is Captain Birdseye
The basis of that joke was also from the 1970s too Crawford and in fact it's so old that when I first heard it, I think Burger King was still a Prince.
Very unlikely corbyn will be primeminister unless it's in the next 12 months,after that age will be catching up on his permanent campaigning,quite like corbyn but as primeminster it's just a bit too radical.They need more centreists and the problem with corbyn he just won't bring any in people like dan Jarvis and a few others that appeal nation wide vote winners ,until that happens I still can't see labour winning a future election.Dan Jarvis for pm 
Can anyone imagine Mr Jeremy Corbyn, Mr John Mcdonnell and Ms Diane Abbot representing GB? One could not come up with a more repulsive and inadequate team of political leaders if one tries one's hardest to represent one's country. Absolutely AWFUL!
ima_mazed66 30 Sep 17 19:30
Deptford 29 Sep 17 19:57
Horrible vile human being.
Assuming that's meant for Corbyn, what kind of fcuked up world do we live when someone who is caring and not an I'm all right Jack type, who often fights for the vulnerable and underprivileged is considered a "Horrible vile human being" or am I missing something?
Very much so .....
Deptford 29 Sep 17 19:57
Horrible vile human being.
Assuming that's meant for Corbyn, what kind of fcuked up world do we live when someone who is caring and not an I'm all right Jack type, who often fights for the vulnerable and underprivileged is considered a "Horrible vile human being" or am I missing something?
Very much so .....
Surprising comments as the people on this forum are very caring people demonstrated by their concerns for people addicted to gaming machines. So many with a social conscience on here.
The point about the rise of Corbyn is this.
The voting population can be boiled down to about 40% left wing, 40% right wing.
The rest are what Ben Elton used to refer to as 'f@rties'
People with either no interest or can not be bothered.
Corbyn is a bit like Antonio Conte.
Both took over a right mess.
Then went back to what they knew best. Conte's defensive organisation what chelsea have always been about. Corbyn socialist policies.
Hey presto he gets back his 40%.
The notion that Tony Blair used to peddle, that labour could represent a 'third way' is utter sloblocks I am afraid.
You can only fool all of the people some of the time...
The voting population can be boiled down to about 40% left wing, 40% right wing.
The rest are what Ben Elton used to refer to as 'f@rties'
People with either no interest or can not be bothered.
Corbyn is a bit like Antonio Conte.
Both took over a right mess.
Then went back to what they knew best. Conte's defensive organisation what chelsea have always been about. Corbyn socialist policies.
Hey presto he gets back his 40%.
The notion that Tony Blair used to peddle, that labour could represent a 'third way' is utter sloblocks I am afraid.
You can only fool all of the people some of the time...
I'd not even buy a 2nd hand car from Mr Tony Blair. He was an extremely lucky politician but also very lightweight and incapable of thinking outside the box and ahead; even a monkey with a Labour badge could have won that Election after 17 years in the wilderness.
We were robbed of a charismatic, trusting, intelligent and caring Prime Minister in Mr John Smith who died suddenly from a heart attack whilst still very young.
We were robbed of a charismatic, trusting, intelligent and caring Prime Minister in Mr John Smith who died suddenly from a heart attack whilst still very young.
I am no Blair fan and genuinely never was but it's easy to underestimate his appeal in the late 90s.and even into the 21st century for those who could stomach his relationship with Bush. After all the Tories elected something like a poor man's clone as late as 2005.
The truth of the matter is that Jeremy isnt really that left wing , he is primarily a reformist but he still signs into the Imperialist Capitalist agenda , i dont what all the fuss is about , if you read the mail and the torygraph every day then sure you will believe all the drivel they publish
He is left-wing compared to what has happened since 1979.
Before then he would be centreish. He wants to nationalise the public utilities,give the unions more rights and abolish tuition fees. I think you'll find that would have been the concensus before Keith Joseph and his acolyte Maggie dragged the Tories to what was then the far right.
Before then he would be centreish. He wants to nationalise the public utilities,give the unions more rights and abolish tuition fees. I think you'll find that would have been the concensus before Keith Joseph and his acolyte Maggie dragged the Tories to what was then the far right.
I didn't afree with all that Philip Hammond said this morning but he rightly pointed out that Corbyn is a strong supporter of politics in Cuba and Venezuela and is intent on using them as s model for his brave new world. At least it will solve the migrant crisis. Nobody will want to come here.
SS you are bang on the money here , by the way wasnt Joseph and his crew into Eugenics i think ?
Joseph ruined his leadership chances by saying that the poor were breeding too quickly.
I was a Politics undergraduate in 1975 and I snuck into a meeting that Joseph was speaking at. I honestly couldn't believe what I was hearing from a mainstream politician but unfortunately it sooon became the norm.
I was a Politics undergraduate in 1975 and I snuck into a meeting that Joseph was speaking at. I honestly couldn't believe what I was hearing from a mainstream politician but unfortunately it sooon became the norm.
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