Welcome to Live View – Take the tour to learn more
Start Tour
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
Far more authoritative and knowledgable, and can be just as loud if required.
Show More
He cant even get on big brother aftershow anymore.Apart from sunday forum he cant get any other work.
Big Mac, total and utter waste of space, total chancer who likes to jump on any popular public bandwagon, pretending the welfare of the animal is his primary concern, yet this is the same lifetime enthusiastic supporter of the sadistic 'sport' of hare coursing. If the price is right Big Mac's your man!!
Not the nicest man but him and Francombe totally different league to now
The fat ugly chancer will be lying in his own filth having defecated twice today in bed.
He brought nothing to the once top betting sport.
He brought nothing to the once top betting sport.
You must be a muslim ihal that is pig ignorant of country sports.
Hares were bred to be coursed and yes indeedee that is why there are so many..
Just a thought
Hares were bred to be coursed and yes indeedee that is why there are so many..
Just a thought
The sooner that urban foxes are given the red card as well the better..
They are not pets.
They are not pets.
I don't know much about Coursing but most hares escape. A thing that puzzled me when I saw coursing results in the Sporting Life when I first started to buy it in the 1950's was it often said 'Killed to lose' So evidently killing the prey is not the object of the course.
Knew him briefly when met him a few times years ago, early 70's, when he was doing a regular monthly Coursing column for the Greyhound Magazine. We all thought he was a bit of an oddball, eccentric, but entertaining sort of character. Although agree he was a total chancer, and C4 Racing threw him a lifeline when he needed it.
Then he stupidly tries to sue them for a few million when C4 dumped him. Should have gone gracefully, not many self-employed people who have been able to enjoy nearly 30 years of regular work from one employer. Cost him heavily when employment tribunal threw out his discrimination case. A bit of a chancer with a silly claim and lost. When his last contract expired, they chose not to renew it, so basically he had no case.
But to be fair to him he was good entertainment value on C4 Racing, but with other TV appearances he became embarrassing, and his time had come.
[ This image is no longer available. ]
Then he stupidly tries to sue them for a few million when C4 dumped him. Should have gone gracefully, not many self-employed people who have been able to enjoy nearly 30 years of regular work from one employer. Cost him heavily when employment tribunal threw out his discrimination case. A bit of a chancer with a silly claim and lost. When his last contract expired, they chose not to renew it, so basically he had no case.
But to be fair to him he was good entertainment value on C4 Racing, but with other TV appearances he became embarrassing, and his time had come.
[ This image is no longer available. ]
His knowledge about the game far surpasses most presenters. It would be interesting to find out what income stream he gets from his punting.
The tribunal claim was not that silly. Mac claimed for age discrimination, and it certainly seemed that Channel 4 did ditch all of the older presenters and keep the younger ones. He lost because C4 had also gathered a lot of evidence that audiences didn't like him.
It was touch and go, and if it had been my tribunal, I'd have allowed the claim, but I also think they were right to get shot of him.
You can read the judgement here:
https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Documents/Judgments/mccririck-channel-4.pdf
It was touch and go, and if it had been my tribunal, I'd have allowed the claim, but I also think they were right to get shot of him.
You can read the judgement here:
https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Documents/Judgments/mccririck-channel-4.pdf
If a contract is not renewed there can be no claim. When an agreement comes to an end no reason need be given for non renewal. I hope this clarifies the matter.
If Big Mac had decided not to renew, Channel 4 would not have made a claim!
It doesn't really Slicer. Contract was the chosen method of employment but you have to take into account the number of years Big Mac was employed by C4.
In the media industry, most well known names are 'self-employed' with their own companies and work on a contract basis. This subject is very topical and has ramifications on the employer/employee relationship.
In the media industry, most well known names are 'self-employed' with their own companies and work on a contract basis. This subject is very topical and has ramifications on the employer/employee relationship.
Clearly there was a claim, and the claim even followed a hearing to decide whether there could be a claim.
Fair enough. I always thought when a contract ended, it ended!
Fair enough. I always thought when a contract ended, it ended!
Tell Dell: Surprised Big Mac hasn't been sponsored by any of the DIY Giants, Superglue for instance!
Chapman on course to out-Big Mac Big Mac though he might lack the Big Mac tic-tac
swift-tuttle are you for real..
He did have an income stream from the alleged "bookmakers" he was paid to mention them..
That soft excuse for a "campaigning" journalist never backed a winner in his whole life...
He did have an income stream from the alleged "bookmakers" he was paid to mention them..
That soft excuse for a "campaigning" journalist never backed a winner in his whole life...
Well of course he was paid to mention bookmakers if he was reporting from the betting ring but it was CH4 paying him to do that.
I am amazed at your naivety..
The chancer was even advertising during the breaks in that rancid C4 coverage..
Those slips passed to him by the "bookmakers" reps were accompanied by nothing else ??
The chancer was even advertising during the breaks in that rancid C4 coverage..
Those slips passed to him by the "bookmakers" reps were accompanied by nothing else ??
Those slips passed to him by the "bookmakers" reps were accompanied by nothing else ??
One cannot hope to bribe or twist
Thank God! The British journalist
But seeing what the man will do
Unbribed, there's no occasion to.
Why would bookies' reps need to bribe Mac to read out prices? It would make just as much sense (which is none) for Mac to pay the reps for the information.
One cannot hope to bribe or twist
Thank God! The British journalist
But seeing what the man will do
Unbribed, there's no occasion to.
Why would bookies' reps need to bribe Mac to read out prices? It would make just as much sense (which is none) for Mac to pay the reps for the information.
That soft excuse for a "campaigning" journalist never backed a winner in his whole life...
Mac famously backed Zafonic ante-post for the Guineas, at 20 or 25/1 iirc. That might be the only one, though.
Mac famously backed Zafonic ante-post for the Guineas, at 20 or 25/1 iirc. That might be the only one, though.
Doing media adverts for a particular bookmaker and taking that bookie's money is not the same as mentioning them in the betting ring. If he's reporting on the betting and states the general price of a horse than several of the main bookies agree on, yet another takes a stance and goes longer or shorter, is he:
1. not to mention the differing price?
2. not to mention the name of the bookie offering it because it's not the one he promotes?
I'm amazed that you can't see the difference or even that you think he can be part of an open promotional campaign away from the betting ring for a particular bookie, yet somehow not mention their name.
1. not to mention the differing price?
2. not to mention the name of the bookie offering it because it's not the one he promotes?
I'm amazed that you can't see the difference or even that you think he can be part of an open promotional campaign away from the betting ring for a particular bookie, yet somehow not mention their name.
Mac was the author of his own downfall. His loony right wing, misogynist act, and it was an act, latterly spread beyond racing onto various chat and reality shows, was calculated to offend viewers.
And the trouble with setting out to upset people, is that you might succeed.
Like Mac did.
And the trouble with setting out to upset people, is that you might succeed.
Like Mac did.
That ex stables in Primrose Hill or wherever never paid for itself...
For alleged hard nosed gamblers you show the most extraordinary naivety..
Never believed the Zafonic tale at 25/1..
Unless he got a free bet..
The wife maybe tipped him it as she looked like she was also bred by Juddmonte Farms..
Unless he got a free bet..
The wife maybe tipped him it as she looked like she was also bred by Juddmonte Farms..
@homefortea -- Never believed the Zafonic tale at 25/1..
It does seem I exaggerated the price. According to Mac on ATR:
Biggest ever win
Zafonic in the 1993 2000 Guineas – though my colleagues at Channel 4 nabbed most of it. I thought he was one of the best two-year-olds I had ever seen when he won the Prix Salamandre and had 3,000 to 25,000 on him instantly – the way he won the Dewhurst on his final start that year meant I knew I was on to a good thing.
http://www.attheraces.com/article/207983
It does seem I exaggerated the price. According to Mac on ATR:
Biggest ever win
Zafonic in the 1993 2000 Guineas – though my colleagues at Channel 4 nabbed most of it. I thought he was one of the best two-year-olds I had ever seen when he won the Prix Salamandre and had 3,000 to 25,000 on him instantly – the way he won the Dewhurst on his final start that year meant I knew I was on to a good thing.
http://www.attheraces.com/article/207983
It's naïve beyond belief to think there weren't ever any inducements - it's just back then they weren't as shameless as they are now on RUK and ATR.
I can remember Neil Wilkins standing behind him and Stevenson virtually pulling the strings one day at Newmarket.
Maybe they got some of the 'fine wine' that the Racing Post editorial desk used to enjoy, courtesy of Victor...
I can remember Neil Wilkins standing behind him and Stevenson virtually pulling the strings one day at Newmarket.
Maybe they got some of the 'fine wine' that the Racing Post editorial desk used to enjoy, courtesy of Victor...
Inducements for what? It was a gravy train: the hacks (Mac and the papers) wanted to report the prices, and the reps wanted the prices reported. It was a win-win situation. Neither side does any work. The main perk for the hacks was first pickings at the ante-post market. Remember how often prices were taken and cut before the betting shop punter got a look-in.
Mac made a name for himself with that front page Sporting Life exclusive around 1979, involving a gang putting the blower commentary back by around a minuite in a Brighton betting office while being fed the Dog results into an earpiece.They were then backing the forecast.
When you find old footage earlier than this, such as him discussing hare coursing, he had a polished accent in line with his education and this common man, up the toon, away the lads character ( he originates from Jersey) is just an invented persona.Comes across as an opportunist,me me me character with no scruples, however,you cannot deny that he was very,very good in his C4 role reporting from the ring.
When we criticise the present set up and call for a return of the old crew, I doubt that we really want Derek Thompson back,but Francome for a touch of levity, Timeform McGrath and Mac should never have received the chop.
When you find old footage earlier than this, such as him discussing hare coursing, he had a polished accent in line with his education and this common man, up the toon, away the lads character ( he originates from Jersey) is just an invented persona.Comes across as an opportunist,me me me character with no scruples, however,you cannot deny that he was very,very good in his C4 role reporting from the ring.
When we criticise the present set up and call for a return of the old crew, I doubt that we really want Derek Thompson back,but Francome for a touch of levity, Timeform McGrath and Mac should never have received the chop.
In truth, Wyatt should not have survived the investigative skills of John McCririck who in 1979 exposed "Totegate", a betting scam by which Tote employees were authorising bets after the off in order to suppress dividends.
If memory serves me correct JF was not given the chop, he chose not to renew when the new company came along.
They would have taken him I think because he was well liked.
They would have taken him I think because he was well liked.
Re the Brighton betting office scam gang - I'm guessing 1979. Cannot find any links but I do remember it clearly on the front page of the Life and it was Mac who did the exclusive.
Ramruna think Mr M was on for a lot at about 8/1 after it dotted up from one of MJ's in France never one to blow my own trumpet I had a wodge on spread around at 25's enough to make your knees knock then it got beat in the prep for Newmarket. No laying off in those days. Can still remember where I watched it win the guineas. Kept me in dom pom for some time or should I say gave me the taste much better than that smart price stuff.
Friday, 06 June 2008 12:05
Brits aiming to have flutter on the Derby this weekend are being warned about a scam racing tipster emails that last year tricked punters out of at least £5 million.
The Office of Fair Trading is warning racegoers about scam emails offering bogus tips and guaranteed insider information for a fee.
Emails – and sometimes glossy brochures targeted at punters – promise a ‘guaranteed £10,000 a week’ using ‘unrivalled access to insider information’ from a fake ‘racing pundit’ who claims to have access to inside information from trainers and owners and an amazing success rate that guarantees large profits.
In January the OFT obtained a High Court injunction against a Brighton-based trader behind a number of misleading racing tipster mailings. It was estimated that more than 3,000 consumers responded to the mailings, netting the man behind it at least £175,000.
Other scams include the chance to place bets through a special service that protects against losses – however, those that try to find their winnings discover their contact has disappeared.
John McCririck, Channel 4 Racing presenter, said: “Punters are being misled and losing money and confidence while those behind these scams get richer.
“The activities of bogus racing tipsters are bringing into disrepute the whole of horseracing and I welcome any efforts to raise awareness and crack down on this problem for the benefit of the sport.”
Mike Haley, OFT head of consumer protection, added: “These scammers are expert in one thing: parting people from their cash with empty promises of inside information, guaranteed huge profits and bogus money back offers.
“It’s a gamble not worth taking.”
Brits aiming to have flutter on the Derby this weekend are being warned about a scam racing tipster emails that last year tricked punters out of at least £5 million.
The Office of Fair Trading is warning racegoers about scam emails offering bogus tips and guaranteed insider information for a fee.
Emails – and sometimes glossy brochures targeted at punters – promise a ‘guaranteed £10,000 a week’ using ‘unrivalled access to insider information’ from a fake ‘racing pundit’ who claims to have access to inside information from trainers and owners and an amazing success rate that guarantees large profits.
In January the OFT obtained a High Court injunction against a Brighton-based trader behind a number of misleading racing tipster mailings. It was estimated that more than 3,000 consumers responded to the mailings, netting the man behind it at least £175,000.
Other scams include the chance to place bets through a special service that protects against losses – however, those that try to find their winnings discover their contact has disappeared.
John McCririck, Channel 4 Racing presenter, said: “Punters are being misled and losing money and confidence while those behind these scams get richer.
“The activities of bogus racing tipsters are bringing into disrepute the whole of horseracing and I welcome any efforts to raise awareness and crack down on this problem for the benefit of the sport.”
Mike Haley, OFT head of consumer protection, added: “These scammers are expert in one thing: parting people from their cash with empty promises of inside information, guaranteed huge profits and bogus money back offers.
“It’s a gamble not worth taking.”
Post Your Reply
Please login to post a reply.
Wonder
Instance ID: 13539