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whats happened to all the money that used to be in the horse racing markets? Large moves are occurring as there's nothing propping up the markets! How times have changed
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I'm packing in soon as there is one person controlling the direction of the markets - good luck to them but if it continues they might find that its no fun playing on your own!
It's a more leisurely pace than all these races going off every few minutes. 
been declining for years....
RAPID decline over the last few months (as more folk backed too low and layed too high and went skint as a result)....
some of us said that's how it would pan out but nobody gave a t0$$....
certainly not BETFAIR anyway (or should i say paddy power betfair)...
all seems to have gone t1t$ up since the merger....
amazing that.
RAPID decline over the last few months (as more folk backed too low and layed too high and went skint as a result)....
some of us said that's how it would pan out but nobody gave a t0$$....
certainly not BETFAIR anyway (or should i say paddy power betfair)...
all seems to have gone t1t$ up since the merger....
amazing that.
shame, betfair aren't the only losers. I'm also ending subs to racingpost/weekender/RUK
you won't be the only one when it comes to RUK revs....
yeh I'm pre-race. Its pointless now though as the bot moves betfair and as a result, the bookies
ok thanks , your "I'm packing in soon as there is one person controlling the direction of the markets" suggested you were pre race trading.
Stephen ****//** 15-Jul-2017 16:06
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Horse Racing: £56,871.80 Total P&L: £56,871.80
Horse Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 2724 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Newm 15th Jul : 7f Grp2 15-Jul-17 16:00 15-Jul-17 16:04 58.44
Horse Racing / Ascot 15th Jul : 1m Grp2 15-Jul-17 15:50 15-Jul-17 15:55 11.60
Horse Racing / Curr 15th Jul : 7f Hcap 15-Jul-17 15:45 15-Jul-17 15:50 41.08
Horse Racing / York 15th Jul : 6f Nov Stks 15-Jul-17 15:40 15-Jul-17 15:44 15.94
Horse Racing / Chest 15th Jul : 1m6f Hcap 15-Jul-17 15:35 15-Jul-17 15:40 15.24
Horse Racing / Newm 15th Jul : 7f Hcap 15-Jul-17 15:25 15-Jul-17 15:29 49.28
Horse Racing / Ascot 15th Jul : 1m Hcap 15-Jul-17 15:15 15-Jul-17 15:20 25.22
Horse Racing / Curr 15th Jul : 7f Mdn
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2017-04-14 23:00
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Horse Racing: £56,871.80 Total P&L: £56,871.80
Horse Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 2724 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Newm 15th Jul : 7f Grp2 15-Jul-17 16:00 15-Jul-17 16:04 58.44
Horse Racing / Ascot 15th Jul : 1m Grp2 15-Jul-17 15:50 15-Jul-17 15:55 11.60
Horse Racing / Curr 15th Jul : 7f Hcap 15-Jul-17 15:45 15-Jul-17 15:50 41.08
Horse Racing / York 15th Jul : 6f Nov Stks 15-Jul-17 15:40 15-Jul-17 15:44 15.94
Horse Racing / Chest 15th Jul : 1m6f Hcap 15-Jul-17 15:35 15-Jul-17 15:40 15.24
Horse Racing / Newm 15th Jul : 7f Hcap 15-Jul-17 15:25 15-Jul-17 15:29 49.28
Horse Racing / Ascot 15th Jul : 1m Hcap 15-Jul-17 15:15 15-Jul-17 15:20 25.22
Horse Racing / Curr 15th Jul : 7f Mdn
games finished
get them face timed ones, i get em from all them northern gaffs, get stuff!
york 5:15....
389k matched for the ENTIRE race....
everything is clearly going well with in running these days....
THE END.
389k matched for the ENTIRE race....
everything is clearly going well with in running these days....
THE END.
Race timings today hasn't helped, too much racing and 2 or 3 races starting on top of each other. Racing popularity is in decline as the bookies are losing punters in droves because they will only take bets of any size from mugs. Betfair is caught up in this cycle of decline with falling demand and it can only get worse.
I doubt bookmaker restrictions have anything to do with a decline in interest from the general public.
Most people probably lose money on here and so eventually give up.
it's blatantly obvious batfair (now paddy power betfair) gave up on in running horses on the exchange a long time ago....
they are a lot happier folk playing on their sportsbook and folk playing casino games etc...
they make plenty from tennis / football etc...
in running horses on the exchange has been allowed to get in to the utter mess it is now quite happily...
last embers for me....
can see me making it through to the end of the flat then calling it a day....
my health is more important now.
they are a lot happier folk playing on their sportsbook and folk playing casino games etc...
they make plenty from tennis / football etc...
in running horses on the exchange has been allowed to get in to the utter mess it is now quite happily...
last embers for me....
can see me making it through to the end of the flat then calling it a day....
my health is more important now.
the reason why ir has declined is simple enuff..those with slow pics have all went kapoot..so now its the long term winners v botts.
An in-running bot obviously can't race read so it must be laying/backing the field when the %s are right to do so.
That seems to me to be a completely separate discipline to the fast pics play so I don't think the bots are to blame for the poor liquidity, in fact it could be argued that they should help liquidity.
That seems to me to be a completely separate discipline to the fast pics play so I don't think the bots are to blame for the poor liquidity, in fact it could be argued that they should help liquidity.
swift-tuttle 15 Jul 17 19:21
An in-running bot obviously can't race read so it must be laying/backing the field when the %s are right to do so.
wd sherlock.
An in-running bot obviously can't race read so it must be laying/backing the field when the %s are right to do so.
wd sherlock.
no-one sues Betfair because they know that the courts wouldn't have a hope of understanding the technicalities involved. Take that race the other night where there was a huge underround at BFSP, anyone who laid the winner at BFSP was well and truly ripped off but the courts would never be able to get to grips with it.
http://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30899165/sett...
the bottom line is that betfair (now paddy power betfair) are clearly happy with the current scenario...
if they weren't then they'd have done SOMETHING about it by now....
they've been told often enough about dwindling in running liquidity (getting worse by the day now imv)...
and they have done rock all about it for a long long time...
so the only conclusion anyone could possibly reach is that they are happy to let it die a slow death...
folk will slowly drop away and eventually the in running liquidity will dry up so much it'll make purpleDAQ look good...
if betfair (now paddy power betfair) wanted to fix this they could....
draw your own conclusions.
if they weren't then they'd have done SOMETHING about it by now....
they've been told often enough about dwindling in running liquidity (getting worse by the day now imv)...
and they have done rock all about it for a long long time...
so the only conclusion anyone could possibly reach is that they are happy to let it die a slow death...
folk will slowly drop away and eventually the in running liquidity will dry up so much it'll make purpleDAQ look good...
if betfair (now paddy power betfair) wanted to fix this they could....
draw your own conclusions.
they couldnt fix it..cos the ones without access to fast pics aint got the money..the bots works in millisecs calculating algorithms. obv suits them.
You want to watch sparrow. He's using Bet Angel mit spreadsheets and three monitors.
sparrow , you will have to wait about 6 years for a reply
Ah yes pablo. Another prolific poster emerges from wherever.
Just realised I replied to his first offering on this thread.
There has been quite old usernames with hardly any posts come out of the woodwork lately.
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