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halcyon days
15 Jun 17 10:06
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Pal of mine is having his pay reduced from next January, second time in eighteen months !


Imminent FOBT max spin reduction, cue mass hysteria from CEO's / owners of High Street betting companies !

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By:
halcyon days
When: 15 Jun 17 10:06
Spread bettor's...


how many will close ?....
By:
Dav_vin03
When: 15 Jun 17 10:09
how can they justify 2 pay cuts while announcing huge profits?

i hope your friend finds another job
By:
longbridge
When: 15 Jun 17 10:13
"how can they justify 2 pay cuts while announcing huge profits?"

I'd guess because (according to 2016 results) their shop estate made £160m profit on betting revenues of 400m and gaming revenues of 500m; they're very vulnerable to loss of gaming revenue.

https://www.williamhillplc.com/media/11216/wmh-2016-final-results.pdf
By:
halcyon days
When: 15 Jun 17 10:15
He tells me, they've built in a ''reduction to £20 max '' into there business model !
By:
equine flew
When: 15 Jun 17 10:29
They want it all ways longbridge.   They don't increase salaries on the possibility of increased future profits.  scum
By:
ph.
When: 15 Jun 17 12:18
are the area/regional managers getting similar treatment? And the Directors getting reduced bonus rates?
By:
RothmanMike
When: 15 Jun 17 13:03
Most of them only got /keep their jobs because of FOBTs.
Absolutely no sympathy for these people,get a proper job.
By:
OVERSEAS
When: 15 Jun 17 13:20
a business model built on non risk/non gambling (namely FOBTs) has to end.......the men at the top are still dining out..
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 15 Jun 17 13:39
RothmanMike seems like a compassionate bloke...

What do you call a proper job?
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 15 Jun 17 13:52
proper job yfdsc?  any different to your missus working 7-12 in a chip shop 6 nights a week?
By:
hulk23
When: 15 Jun 17 13:59
eff all left to manage so seems perfectly reasonable ...
By:
hulk23
When: 15 Jun 17 14:01
make sure sandra's opened the shop up and she's switched all the fobt's on. 

then back home in time for homes under the hammer.
By:
elise
When: 15 Jun 17 14:01
any different to your missus working 7-12 in a chip shop 6 nights a week?

a battered sausage would definitely be different between a bookies and a chip shop ....
By:
chavman
When: 15 Jun 17 14:28
Do William hill sell pineapple fritters now ,I might start going in a bit more
By:
chavman
When: 15 Jun 17 14:31
Hal quite looking forward to wearing a pinny
By:
chavman
When: 15 Jun 17 14:32
One with mum written on it
By:
RothmanMike
When: 15 Jun 17 14:46
Mikael,these blokes preside over wretched folk who cannot control themselves doing their families money,and most are happy to see the gloom and despondency unfolding before their eyes everyday of the week.Dont talk to me about compassionate people,please.
By:
the dealer
When: 15 Jun 17 14:58
was it an okay job thirty years ago RM, where people used them all the time and many done their brains on a daily basis backing horses and dogs they couldnt even see.
By:
the dealer
When: 15 Jun 17 14:59
or is your view purely FOBT based
By:
RothmanMike
When: 15 Jun 17 15:07
Yes, which is 90 % of the business.
In days gone by they read the Sporting Life,knew a bit about sport and if you like, earned their keep.
Not any more, and the delight on their faces when some poor bugger walks out skint, is sickening to me.
I'm out.
Defend it if you will, but I wont be around to listen.
By:
the dealer
When: 15 Jun 17 15:15
i doubt it is 90% of their business and i dont think many will defend them but to insinuate that all staff have no compassion or laugh when people lose imo is way off the mark.
By:
wondersobright
When: 15 Jun 17 15:23
FOBTs are a bit over 50% of their high street turnover

generally most betting shop staff couldn't give a toss about racing/sports/betting and most are clueless although I haven't come across many that I have suspected that they take pleasure in people losing
By:
the dealer
When: 15 Jun 17 15:34
30 years ago very few women in management role, today the vast majority of managers are women. the role has completely changed, companies are happy to pay less for less knowledge.i agree WSB the vast majority wouldnt know a jockey from a football player.
By:
impossible123
When: 15 Jun 17 17:06
If fobt is the high street bookies main source of revenue and if some of them will have to close in the event of a massive reduction in maximum stake allowed then sobeit. There are many other more respectable businesses and employment to be involved in; this form of revenue/trade is an indecent and deceptive way of obtaining money from the venerable and least privileged through addiction.

Fobt should never be allowed in any high street bookie. Instead they should only be confined to establishment such as private clubs and/or casinos because of its addictive quality and the ramifications it generates.
By:
wondersobright
When: 15 Jun 17 17:10
^agree completely
By:
newlawncailin
When: 15 Jun 17 18:14
they work more hours than the bakers cat for very very poor pay just few pennies more tham min

its part of a phat cat culture where ony a few big cheeses get all the spoils
every bet not collected goes into a big phat cat kitty and is shared among
the elete  , id you think they are tight laddies did not even take their staff for a Crimbo night out
despite getting £50 per head tax free beak from inland revenue, every company gets a one of tax rebate of £50 per man/woman to take them out once a year ie xmas night out and claim it back
what they done was spend it all in the phat cats and the shop floor workers got a card !
the greed is obscene not even afforded a xmas night out while the elete few sip  champagne
workers like hamsters on a wheel , being asked for more and more for less , i know some nice people who work for these companies they dont get home to 10 pm and start at 10 am be better stacking shelves less stress Sad
By:
pleasedontgetinjuredclanroyal
When: 15 Jun 17 20:21
i think there are a lot of these bookie arcade workers who would love to be home for 10 pm and starting

at 10 am the next day newlawn !
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 15 Jun 17 20:34
Hal thank fook you don't have too far to go b4 you can put ya feet up

Just heard that a shop I used to punt in many years ago b4 they decided to ban anyone that had a Scooby and turn the place into an amusement arcade is due to close in the near future - big shock to a lot of the staff within said company as the shop was one of the best for trade/profit for many years in the area but went down the fbots route as per company procedure when it was a cash cow for em and yet now nobody punts in there - karma has well and truly come home to roost and this is b4 any reductions to the fbots regs LaughLaughLaugh
By:
chavman
When: 15 Jun 17 20:37
Good job you only go the bingo nowadays soft lad
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 15 Jun 17 20:39
LoveLove

you luv a luvbite don't ya LaughLaughLaugh
By:
homefortea
When: 15 Jun 17 20:52
My last shop...

Used to be five of us on a Saturday in 2000...

It was the life and soul of the area.The local football teams used to meet I kept all the money for the hot drinks and could settle 3000 bets with the fidgety ones given over to the trainee..

Had two slots machines made £400 per week paid a few bills.

It was bustling.Took over £50k per week in the winter.

And now - one girl opens up and another comes in at 12 on a Saturday.Clueless individuals.

The FOBTS keep it open,

A whole generation of punters lost due to sheer incompetence..
By:
newlawncailin
When: 15 Jun 17 21:07
chav shearer might be good at bingo he got a full house up early 80s

WhoopsWink
By:
Breedingmad
When: 15 Jun 17 21:19
I once won maybe 12 or 13 bingo games on the trot and left with two carrier bags of rubbish
generously given by the fairground for the efforts of my endeavour,  the glasses lasted half an
hour and I think a lit cigarette may have resulted in accidentally destroying the furry toys and
the sticks of rock were handy to swell the coffers of our local Dentist...I see we have no longer
have a full house on the forumSad
By:
halcyon days
When: 15 Jun 17 22:27
Cr$ig, your post re: Roy Larner shows you to be the G 1 *unt you are !
By:
halcyon days
When: 15 Jun 17 22:28
Cross party ( hung parliament ) makes a ''score'' max per spin look odds on !
By:
halcyon days
When: 15 Jun 17 22:30
Labour/ Lib Dems / Scots Nats had £2 max in there manifesto's !
By:
halcyon days
When: 15 Jun 17 22:30
It's been a long campaign, but hopefully.....
By:
halcyon days
When: 15 Jun 17 22:32
Homme, good evening .


The good old days, we can but hope !
By:
parispike
When: 15 Jun 17 22:36
One Badblokes in Cheltenham (there are 4 ffs!) failed to open again today. Staff shortages blamed. Anecdotally however it seems the halcyon days (sorry halcyon days) of the machines raking it in are disappearing.

What will they do when the stakes are slashed?

Perhaps they could take up an alternative related business such as bookmaking.......
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