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differentdrum
07 May 17 15:44
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Had it handed to him on a plate yesterday. Bit harder today and he blew it. Forget the interference he rode a stayer for speed. Should have sat in the first three.
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Report Willie Shafter. • May 7, 2017 3:45 PM BST
have you rode anything?
Report Arklearkle • May 7, 2017 3:45 PM BST
Not the best I'm afraid
Report granitjack • May 7, 2017 3:45 PM BST
It was a shocking ride....and I also think they won't be using P Beggy as a peacemaking jockey ever again....
Report basilbrush • May 7, 2017 3:47 PM BST
True, Ryan rode a complete and utter howler, too far back, then allows himself to bet blocked in, generally pretty reliable but that was really poor.
Report FOYLESWAR • May 7, 2017 3:48 PM BST
cant take anything away from the winner led 2-3 out there to be shot at ,couldnt pass her ,smart hoss !
Report Willie Shafter. • May 7, 2017 3:48 PM BST
pocket talk brigade out in force again
Report workrider • May 7, 2017 3:48 PM BST
In other words lads,Moore was his usual self....Laugh
Report Ibrahima Sonko • May 7, 2017 3:49 PM BST
WOuld had still finished 2nd imo.
Report acey deucy • May 7, 2017 3:50 PM BST
Shut It You Mug !!!!Plain
Report FOYLESWAR • May 7, 2017 3:50 PM BST
same hear !^^^^
Report differentdrum • May 7, 2017 3:51 PM BST
WS, have you ever watched a race?

It is conjecture whether she would have won but that ride ensured she had absolutely no chance of winning.
Report FOYLESWAR • May 7, 2017 3:51 PM BST
talking out there pockets and ar$holes at the same time ,a rare talent !
Report differentdrum • May 7, 2017 3:52 PM BST
The rarest talent is a jockey apologist saying something sensible.
Report Andrew in Sweden • May 7, 2017 3:53 PM BST
Unlucky in running, but would she have won with a clear run ? I have my doubts and I backed her, the winner (by 2L) has improved over the winter and looked smart to me.
Report ben96 • May 7, 2017 3:54 PM BST
Best horse on the day won there. However it's true that Moore quite often finds trouble in the big races being over confident just like Minding in the Oaks last year.
Report Poppydog. • May 7, 2017 3:55 PM BST
Not many pointing out that even with a clear run, he would surely have still finished 2nd
Report asparagus • May 7, 2017 3:57 PM BST
Certainly can't have that he was too far back. Obviously the interference cost him a fair bit of ground without which it would have been close. Not sure that was his fault. Easily the best jockey around but doesn't mean every ride goes perfectly.
Report skygreenzone • May 7, 2017 3:59 PM BST
Winter got his group 1 win so ballydoyle happy was well backed during the week fav gets beat so no real surprise they still got the winner
Report ged • May 7, 2017 3:59 PM BST
Beggy will get a bollocking. His mount edged left under his whip and helped to close the gap that Moore was looking to go through. Doubt it would have made the difference. Winner was best horse, imo. Obviously improving quickly.
Report Willie Shafter. • May 7, 2017 4:01 PM BST
differentdrum    07 May 17 15:51 
WS, have you ever watched a race?

prob a million more than you yfdsc
Report workrider • May 7, 2017 4:01 PM BST
Moore does what he's told by the BOYS,simple as that .
Report Diff-rent • May 7, 2017 4:01 PM BST
No bet ... but I think the 2nd horse looks potentially the better prospect going forward.
Report Willie Shafter. • May 7, 2017 4:03 PM BST
lost 2L and beat 2L

would have been a dh imo
Report Deptford • May 7, 2017 4:03 PM BST
Best horse won, but I do not rate Moore,it was not a good ride, it happens too much in my opinion
Report acey deucy • May 7, 2017 4:06 PM BST
You dont rate Moore????......You cannot be serious you clown.Plain
Report workrider • May 7, 2017 4:08 PM BST
Calm down Acey,plenty on here don't rate the mug....
Report acey deucy • May 7, 2017 4:08 PM BST
Ma Baws !!!
Report wallis • May 7, 2017 4:14 PM BST
Winter backed from 50s all the way down to 9s in the last week and people wonder why Rhodendendron cant get a run ..
Report Deptford • May 7, 2017 4:15 PM BST
No, and I own a collapsible car
Report aberdonia • May 7, 2017 4:15 PM BST
he would have won.

he is nearly always on the best horse in all the top class races.

He is a decent jockey, but then 99% of jockeys would win these group 1s that Ryan wins on the best horses in the world.
Report Deptford • May 7, 2017 4:17 PM BST
Agree ^ a decent jockey, and thats it
Report workrider • May 7, 2017 4:18 PM BST
Moore is capable of that there is no doubt,capable of getting one BEAT more often than not!
Report acey deucy • May 7, 2017 4:21 PM BST
Ryan Moore Is The Second Best Jockey In The World ffs.Plain
Report workrider • May 7, 2017 4:28 PM BST
Yes,WAYNES WORLD.....Laugh
Report acey deucy • May 7, 2017 4:29 PM BST
Naw !!!
Report sparrow • May 7, 2017 4:33 PM BST
So who is the best please?
Report impossible123 • May 7, 2017 4:34 PM BST
Shame the 1st and 2nd in the 1000G will not take on each other again in the Irish equivalent given proximity of races; the 2nd is looking more Oaks bound, 5/2 at the present moment.
Report running on the spot • May 7, 2017 4:38 PM BST
Not saying the favourite would have won with a clear for sure
But that was not a good ride
Report Joe Lampton • May 7, 2017 4:49 PM BST
Think Johnny Murtagh in his prime would have won on Moores mount, saying that he would likely have won on Winter.
Report workrider • May 7, 2017 4:51 PM BST
Johnny would carry Moore on his back and still win,a TRUE Champion.
Report Deptford • May 7, 2017 4:53 PM BST
Frank Morby was better
Report workrider • May 7, 2017 4:55 PM BST
Yeah I remember Frank, ended up hardly getting a ride in the end,sad way to end your career .
Report Deptford • May 7, 2017 4:56 PM BST
Think he rode second for P Walwyn
Report skygreenzone • May 7, 2017 4:59 PM BST
People slating moore speechless.
Report workrider • May 7, 2017 4:59 PM BST
Correct Deptford,he finished as I was getting started in racing.
Report breadnbutter • May 7, 2017 5:04 PM BST
how many winners did you ride Work ?
Report impossible123 • May 7, 2017 5:08 PM BST
Moore did nit maximise the good draw of Rhododendron; he does not have a Plan B if Plan is not working, may I hasten to add.
Report workrider • May 7, 2017 5:10 PM BST
None .
Report impossible123 • May 7, 2017 5:11 PM BST
Out of interest 'workrider' who did you ride for?
Report fredlyn • May 7, 2017 5:13 PM BST
may be a Ballydoyle touch even - 9-1 winner , could have ripped millions out of that one
Report workrider • May 7, 2017 5:14 PM BST
L Browne.
Report impossible123 • May 7, 2017 5:21 PM BST
Not one for names but I think I vaguely remember L Browne. I remember the horses better because of financial interest eg Glen Na Small, Grey Desire, Snow Bounder, Diminuendo and off course, Ma Biche and Zafonic.

How long for and what made you give up?
Report impossible123 • May 7, 2017 5:23 PM BST
Shergar got me into horse racing...winning on him in the Derby was easy money!!!!!
Report texmid • May 7, 2017 5:25 PM BST
I am annoyed aswell,but he's still one of the top jocks.
Report workrider • May 7, 2017 5:26 PM BST
LaughLaughLaugh . Liam Browne on the Curragh, reason I gave up was I was terrible and way down the pecking order of what was a wonderful yard full of good Jockeys.
Report Andrew in Sweden • May 7, 2017 5:26 PM BST
Impossible123 ................. Ma Biche and Zafonic ?
Report workrider • May 7, 2017 5:30 PM BST
Andrew that's why I'm laughing...
Report Andrew in Sweden • May 7, 2017 5:34 PM BST
Workrider, i was beginning to wonder if Alzheimers was setting in, or if i misunderstood the post Wink
Report impossible123 • May 7, 2017 5:35 PM BST
Never been up on a horse (held onto one whilst he was being harnessed and saddled - two wheel cart) but loads of motorbikes though. It could not have been easy on a one tonne animal with a mind of its one at times, but no doubt fun too, I'd imagine.

Why laughing? Freddy Head, were they not?
Report workrider • May 7, 2017 5:36 PM BST
No it ain't, had to have a second look myself....Laugh
Report impossible123 • May 7, 2017 5:37 PM BST
Sorry, get it now. I don't mean those horses were trained by Liam Brown. I remember Dermot Browne on Brown's Gazette.
Report EastLower Gooner • May 7, 2017 5:39 PM BST
Looked to me like Ryan asked her to go but she didn't pick up and then the gap closed but even when in the clear it still took ages to get going.

--

Side note...Aidan watching the race afterwards on ITV...wearing those dark glasses when Ed says to him - we're looking for the dark colours Aidan.

Loooool
Report Thegamestraightlol • May 7, 2017 5:40 PM BST
Horse was ridden to instructions commentator before race stated hard to win with................say no more --Moore class act 101%
Report impossible123 • May 7, 2017 5:44 PM BST
She had to be switched when her stablemate dropped back; maybe it was her 1st run of the season. I'm hoping for a renewal between the two in the future but doubt it very much. Another Minding and Ballydoyle scenario, I guess, but hope to be proven wrong.
Report FELTFAIR • May 7, 2017 6:18 PM BST
Best horse won and comfortably.
Report MJK • May 7, 2017 7:45 PM BST
If Smullen rode the horses Moore rides in big races he'd have a far better strike rate
Report FELTFAIR • May 7, 2017 8:13 PM BST
LaughLaugh
Report Ekbalco • May 7, 2017 8:57 PM BST
Anyone who watches plenty of racing knows that Moore is the most overrated jockey in the history of horse racing - his race positional sense is nothing short of atrocious and one has lost count of the number of races he has forfeited through this flaw - he has lost far more races that he should have won , than won races that he has no right to win - he is in short a liability and you have to take that into account when betting his mounts.

Any of 20 jockeys currently riding would win the races Moore is presented with by Coolmore - he contributes nothing in my view , but simply over complicates what should be plenty of 'Point & Shoots' - how he had a 2yo Mile winner 7 lengths off the pace in a quick ground mile with emphasis on speed is mind boggling - and then not switching at least 10 strides before he did is just incompetence - the 2nd was clearly the best horse in the race.

How Coolmore consider him superior to the brilliant 'Keep It Simple' SDS is a mystery of Lord Lucan/Shergar proportions to these eyes ; some of the Irish jocks must wonder what the hell is going on.


Emperors New Clothes Moore.
Report Deptford • May 7, 2017 9:08 PM BST
Oh yes ^
Report RothmanMike • May 7, 2017 9:46 PM BST
I doubt any trainer gives R Moore riding instructions,no need.
He knows most of the horse he rides,and trainers know he is the best in the business and that's why he is employed by the best trainers in the world.
Report BornToWin • May 7, 2017 9:59 PM BST
Not content with mopping up our classics, they want to put the punters away and have it right off as well.

A kind of triple whammy get it right up you if you will. Lovely stoff.
Report smokey1919 • May 7, 2017 10:57 PM BST
wallis
wallis 07 May 17 16:14 Joined: 04 Jan 03 | Topic/replies: 5,016 | Blogger: wallis's blog
Winter backed from 50s all the way down to 9s in the last week and people wonder why Rhodendendron cant get a run ..



like always money talks with this stable douglous macarther backed from 9sto 7s  5 min before of
while hefferman stuck the fav miles of the pace
Report smokey1919 • May 7, 2017 11:08 PM BST
its funny id u actually take a bit time and look at the betting patterns against
Performace from this stable its incredible they seem to know who is winning or getting held up
and not put in the race until its over


  1 (7)

Hydrangea (IRE) 5/1
P B Beggy
A P O'Brien
3    90     111    91    110    –   
Soon led briefly until headed after 1f, 2nd halfway, led again over 2f out, soon ridden and strongly pressed from over 1f out, kept on well under pressure inside final furlong, all out (op 7/1)
2 (12)
hd
Winter (IRE) 6/1
Wayne Lordan
A P O'Brien
3    90     89    90    109    –   
Chased leaders, 4th halfway, effort on outer in close 3rd over 1f out, ridden into close 2nd inside final furlong and kept on well closing stages without matching winner (op 11/2)  look when hydragea bet winter it was backed from 7s to 5/1 while winter drifted !
Report smokey1919 • May 7, 2017 11:12 PM BST
1 (6)

Douglas Macarthur (IRE) 7/1
Emmet McNamara
A P O'Brien
3    93     110    –    112    –   
Led, 1 length clear before halfway, ridden and joined briefly into straight, regained narrow advantage under 2f out, kept on well far side inside final furlong (op 8/1) was 9s
2 (2)
hd
Yucatan (IRE) 13/8F
Seamie Heffernan
A P O'Brien
3    93     111    –    112    –   
Waited with towards rear, 5th halfway, improved into 4th after halfway, switched right under 2f out, soon ridden and kept on well near side inside final furlong to challenge closing stages, just held (op 5/4 tchd 7/4) oh surprse surprise fav drifts is held up miles of the pace LaughLaugh
Report smokey1919 • May 7, 2017 11:16 PM BST
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