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Facts
22 Apr 17 09:29
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10 horses at 12/1 or less !!
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Report s.kenbo April 22, 2017 9:42 AM BST
Not that I trust Oddschecker, but it doesn't show that on there. It does show that they are best price on three runners though!
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 9:57 AM BST
lowest price is the horse i tipped up weeks ago
Southfield Royale  11s
odds checker id rubbish kenbo , if you shop around not a single horse
at 10s but i agree with facts some bookmakers taken the rise at prices !

backed southfield for a month now and saver on Arpege D'Alene

Weighty issue

Just twice in the last ten years has more than 10st 9lb been carried to victory, and never more than 11st 3lb. Seven of the last ten winners have carried 10st 4lb or less.

Festival factor

Two horses placed in the National Hunt Chase have won this in the last decade, while last year's winner Vicente was fifth. Missed Approach was second in the race this year, with Arpege D'Alene in fourth. 


Paul Nicholls, trainer of Vivaldi Collonges, Vicente and Arpege D'Alene
Arpege D'Alene has followed the same route Vicente took last year, he ran well in the four-miler and I've always had this race in mind for him. I've always thought it'd be a great race for him as he stays well; he just needs to be a bit sharper and more fluent with his jumping. Vicente won it last year and is back to a decent mark – and he didn't go very far at Aintree so that's a plus. He's in good shape. Vivaldi Collonges has an impossible task at the weights.
Report s.kenbo April 22, 2017 10:00 AM BST
Half an hour later their website shows exactly what I saw on Oddschecker. Four horses at 10/1, and 14/1 bar.
Report intheknow April 22, 2017 10:02 AM BST
When you start paying 6 places even at 1/5 odds, something has to give
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 10:07 AM BST
for the record facts you can still get 18s Another Hero billies  on here
premier bond is best price 11s billies [ you cd actually back at at billies and lay
on here at 10.5 to make small profit Surprised
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 10:12 AM BST
ok coral  and paddy paying 1st 6 at 5/th odds

laddies 1st 5 at 1/4 odds  its about finding best odds to place ratio
Report fife April 22, 2017 10:12 AM BST
You can actually back premier bond at 11s with b375 1/4 odds 5 places as part of their pricematch and billies are only going 4 placesAngry
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 10:17 AM BST
Bookmaker Price E.W. Terms
bet365
Open Account 11/1 1/4 1-4
Ladbrokes
Open Account 10/1 1/4 1-5
William Hill
Open Account 11/1 1/4 1-4
Coral
Open Account 10/1 1/5 1-6
BetVictor 9/1 1/4 1-5
Sky bet 10/1 1/5 1-6
Boylesport 10/1 1/4 1-4
RaceBets 10/1 1/4 1-5
Paddy Power
Open Account 10/1 1/5 1-6
Sporting 9/1 1/4 1-4
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 10:18 AM BST
thats premier bond prob be a limit on amount to price match fife Confused
Report Facts April 22, 2017 10:19 AM BST
Kenbo. Prices now changed . But those were the prices at time of my opening post.
Report fife April 22, 2017 10:21 AM BST
true but they go joint best price on all tv races and that 5th place may make a differencePlain
Report Facts April 22, 2017 10:23 AM BST
Good to see you've  gone for two horses bigmart Cool
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 10:23 AM BST
the bookmakers have a habit of shorting odds as the days goes on with all the national races
wd not surprise me if you get two 8/1 fav before off time  !
what do you fancy kenbo ?
Report fife April 22, 2017 10:31 AM BST
I have backed 5Blush and would have been 6 had I not missed the 33/1 on Alvarado earlier in the weekAngry though may still have a token bet on the exchange at a big price if tailed off at half wayGrin
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 10:32 AM BST
am in to southfield deeper than a badgers den Scared
just been doing 20 to 30 quid ew but have over 60 bets on facts
Scared  Arpege D'Alene will get my money back and a little extra
if that wins , hand on heart if if mines where none runners
i wd prob be on your two , jonjo has a knack of bringing horses along un- noticed and on a good mark
and henderson a master trainer and the novice factor have a good record in this must
give your runners a great shout a hope you got the prices and value facts
and all the best of luck which lets face it we all need in these races !
Report s.kenbo April 22, 2017 10:48 AM BST
I've just had a dabble on Cogry, Mart.
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 10:48 AM BST
yes fife that Avarado has attracted plenty of support has a low weight and does stay
been placed  in 3top marathon races ! getting on a bit now but still must have great place claims
beat 11 len by many clouds in grand national and a 4th in another  grand national yes 40s was a nice ew bet fife Wink  2nd in this last year !
   
  16Apr16    Ayr C1HcChG3 120K    4m    GS    10-6    2/28 btn 2¾L Vicente 11-3

   11Apr15    Ain C1HcChG3 561K    4m2½f    GS    10-3    4/39 btn 11½L Many Clouds 11-9
   
  05Apr14    Ain C1HcChG3 561K    4m2½f    GS    10-2    4/40 btn 16½L Pineau De Re 10-6
Report ProSniper April 22, 2017 10:53 AM BST
"just been doing 20 to 30 quid ew but have over 60 bets on" Laugh
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 10:56 AM BST
i backed congry twice before not for me kenbo

it rab 6 days ago over a grueling 3.5 miles
horses loose a huge amount of fluids during a race
even more so in this humid weather takes time to get over
just like an athlete , but they say it takes 3 to 4 times longer
for these quine creatures  to get over a long race than us humans 
so you wd not be backing a bloke to win a marathon 2 days after he struggled to
win a much weaker event kembo ! Scaredsab
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 11:03 AM BST
pro snipey
i need a few more runners heard your fact on your feet
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 11:04 AM BST
fast oops ! Crazy
Report s.kenbo April 22, 2017 11:07 AM BST
My lucky pin disagrees with you, Mart! Wink
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 11:10 AM BST
miracles happen kenbo but not very often Surprised

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOl4oeHZnBk      LaughLaughWink
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 11:42 AM BST
if mines wins kenbo and going on p--iss for a week

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JywK_5bT8z0

  money tree says a should lay of my stake for a free bet
  but fortune favours the brave ExcitedExcited
Report Facts April 22, 2017 1:03 PM BST
bigmart

And yet you back ew.

I bet solely in C1or C2 Handicaps. Average sp 13/2. I never back ew.
In my mind, ew betting means you either double your stake or halve your stake.
ie if your stake is £100. You either bet £100ew or £50 ew.
My years of records show quite clearly , in the long run, you are far better betting win only.
More profit/ROI is made on a win only bet,rather than ew.
Report Facts April 22, 2017 4:45 PM BST
Close kenbo. Hard luck !
Report holywell April 22, 2017 4:48 PM BST
Unlucky s.kenbo, I'd given up on Cogry because of it's jumping, it ran a cracker today.

Where did Mart / Billy's / Martha / Sarah's horse finish ?
Report s.kenbo April 22, 2017 4:57 PM BST
CoolSad
Report dopeyone April 22, 2017 5:03 PM BST
Unlucky kenbo

How did Marts horses do please??
Report s.kenbo April 22, 2017 5:16 PM BST
First ones beat!
Report ProSniper April 22, 2017 5:38 PM BST
bigmart's lost.. the same as kenbo's. Unless there's a bookie that pays out when your selection "nearly wins". There's always e/w of course but I doubt kenbo would advocate betting like a pu$$y ?
Report s.kenbo April 22, 2017 5:43 PM BST
Not usually!! Wink
Report ProSniper April 22, 2017 5:48 PM BST
Laugh
Report liggy0 April 22, 2017 5:57 PM BST
does anybody know about the free bet 3/1 or bigger terms at all, placed 3 horses each way for the missus and brother on same bet slip, then after a little study 10 mins later put a 10.00 win on Vicente on for myself all on sports book, do i get a free 10.00 bet unsure
Report s.kenbo April 22, 2017 6:03 PM BST
I'm not sure, but I would've thought so. You found a winner that met the criteria.
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 8:17 PM BST
unlucky kenbo still think that race knocked the edge of it Crazy
good old Avarado was prob the best place bet of the day !
thats 4 nationals he has placed in now


 
billyboy19 22 Apr 17 10:48 Joined: 17 Feb 12 | Topic/replies: 421 | Blogger: billyboy19's blog
yes fife that Avarado has attracted plenty of support has a low weight and does stay
been placed  in 3top marathon races ! getting on a bit now but still must have great place claims
beat 11 len by many clouds in grand national and a 4th in another  grand national yes 40s was a nice ew bet fife Wink  2nd in this last year !
   
  16Apr16    Ayr C1HcChG3 120K    4m    GS    10-6    2/28 btn 2¾L Vicente 11-3

   11Apr15    Ain C1HcChG3 561K    4m2½f    GS    10-3    4/39 btn 11½L Many Clouds 11-9
   
  05Apr14    Ain C1HcChG3 561K    4m2½f    GS    10-2    4/40 btn 16½L Pineau De Re 10-6
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Report s.kenbo April 22, 2017 8:25 PM BST
I think Benbens was the best place bet of the day in that race!
Report billyboy19 April 22, 2017 8:38 PM BST
not my day kenbo i had 3 winners but poor day i was sick had
Mahlers Star
4/1  and was convinced it had got up CryDevil
Report screech April 22, 2017 8:54 PM BST

Apr 22, 2017 -- 11:57AM, liggy0 wrote:


does anybody know about the free bet 3/1 or bigger terms at all, placed 3 horses each way for the missus and brother on same bet slip, then after a little study 10 mins later put a 10.00 win on Vicente on for myself all on sports book, do i get a free 10.00 bet unsure


Unless you had Vicente as the first selection on the 1st bet then no....

t+c's


•    In cases where more than one selection is placed on the same bet slip, the selection with the lowest bet reference number counts towards this offer

•    First cash bet on each race will be the qualifying bet

Report s.kenbo April 22, 2017 8:56 PM BST
That's poor.
Report Facts April 22, 2017 9:50 PM BST

billyboy19    22 Apr 17 20:38 
not my day kenbo i had 3 winners but poor day i was sick had
Mahlers Star
4/1  and was convinced it had got up



No good for me either in the National , but check out the Spring Mile thread on Ante Post Forum bigmart !
Cool
Report 1st time poster April 23, 2017 10:53 AM BST
on the value thread on here people saying sp is the closest you,ll get to a horses actual chance of winning so regards vicente at 9,s skybet were spot on and give you 6 places,and bog
Report billyboy19 April 23, 2017 11:34 AM BST
got hammered 4 min before off time
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