Had a bet today .. wrote 3 horses on the slip and then wrote 3 x £25 trebles and, £25 accumulator.. All 3 win...4-1,9-4,eve...... What should it pay and why?
Because the instructions written are nonsensical, it could be settled as 3 singles with stakes equally divided. Because if you say you meant 3 doubles and a treble , they could say , if only one had won you might be claiming you meant 3 singles and a treble. But any responsible person would know you meant a pony trixie.
Because the instructions written are nonsensical, it could be settled as 3 singles with stakes equally divided. Because if you say you meant 3 doubles and a treble , they could say , if only one had won you might be claiming you meant 3 singles and a
aye equine flew and im sure you would be first on to say he should be paid a double had he only 2 winners. what else could it be?
he knows what he meant, the books know what he meant, i'm sure you even know what he meant. nothing to see imho
aye equine flew and im sure you would be first on to say he should be paid a double had he only 2 winners. what else could it be?he knows what he meant, the books know what he meant, i'm sure you even know what he meant. nothing to see imho
The dealer, of course I know what he meant and so would the bookie, but that has nothing to do with it.
You settle on what is written not what is meant. There are many examples of bookmakers working in this way, when it suits them.
The dealer, of course I know what he meant and so would the bookie, but that has nothing to do with it.You settle on what is written not what is meant. There are many examples of bookmakers working in this way, when it suits them.
REDROB, it is not non-sensical. If he had written 3 trebles with only two selections, or 3 trebles with 4 sections, that would be wrong. His instructions are valid for 3 horses.
REDROB, it is not non-sensical. If he had written 3 trebles with only two selections, or 3 trebles with 4 sections, that would be wrong. His instructions are valid for 3 horses.
heres what to do,go into another shop owned by the same bookies and keep putting the same bet on for 10ps until you get one up with two winners and hope that when you go to collect it they tell you its a loser because you only have a double.i would say they would have to pay you in full on your bet if they do.
heres what to do,go into another shop owned by the same bookies and keep putting the same bet on for 10ps until you get oneup with two winners and hope that when you go to collect it they tell you its a loser because you only have a double.i wouldsay
William hill settling days 30 years back might be wong
RR1 winner singles X 2 - 2stake unit + trixie2 --"___ ____"___X 3 -4stake_"__ + trixie3 winner singles *4 - 6 stak + trixWilliam hill settling days 30 years back might be wong
winner123456 I assume you paid 100 pounds for the bet, and that is confirmed on your copy?
If so, you should be entitled to the full amount of a 25 pound trixie at odds odds stated (unless rule 4 is involved) ie 1631.25
The return for a 100 pound treble is 3250 pounds.
After 30 years experience of bet settlement, this is hardly ambiguous as a trixie was always intended and the wager should be settled as 1631.25 return.
winner123456I assume you paid 100 pounds for the bet, and that is confirmed on your copy?If so, you should be entitled to the full amount of a 25 pound trixie at odds odds stated (unless rule 4 is involved) ie 1631.25The return for a 100 pound treble
Try writing down 4 selections. With a stake of £11 (no instructions) - however the implication is a £1 yank.
If they win, I can guarantee you will NOT be paid on what you intended. You will have 4 x £2.75 singles.
As I have stated, you will be paid on the instruction and not the intention.
Try writing down 4 selections. With a stake of £11 (no instructions) - however the implication is a £1 yank.If they win, I can guarantee you will NOT be paid on what you intended. You will have 4 x £2.75 singles.As I have stated, you will be p
Whether you write two, three or four selections on a slip, if the word 'acca' is there then it means 'all the selections as one bet'.
If the OP had only had two winners, would he have been paid out as the intended £25 double, or would they have said it's being settled as a £100 treble?
Whether you write two, three or four selections on a slip, if the word 'acca' is there then it means 'all the selections as one bet'. If the OP had only had two winners, would he have been paid out as the intended £25 double, or would they have said
At the end of the day it is the responsibilty of the bet placer to write precise instructions. Despite what equine implies, these instructions were ambiguous and not valid instructions. Common sense says it is a trixie, which is what the bookie is right to offer. End of.
At the end of the day it is the responsibilty of the bet placer to write precise instructions. Despite what equine implies, these instructions were ambiguous and not valid instructions. Common sense says it is a trixie, which is what the bookie is ri
Kenbo, how long has this been the case regarding the word "acca"? I have not used bookmakers for the past 15 years but before that an "acca" would be 4 horses upwards only. Single, Double and Treble were the words used for 1,2 and 3 horses and never "acca"
Kenbo, how long has this been the case regarding the word "acca"?I have not used bookmakers for the past 15 years but before that an "acca" would be 4 horses upwards only. Single, Double and Treble were the words used for 1,2 and 3 horses and never "
Your example is still the case, Sparrow. But placing a straight accumulator on a plain slip, wouldn't see you not getting paid if there were only two or three selections (I'm presuming).
If you used a quick slip for a football bet with three selections, but ticked the 'acca' box, I don't think it registers as there aren't enough selections!
Your example is still the case, Sparrow. But placing a straight accumulator on a plain slip, wouldn't see you not getting paid if there were only two or three selections (I'm presuming).If you used a quick slip for a football bet with three selection
Sparrow, go into any bookies, write down two horse and write £10 acca.
100% of the time you this will be settled as a double. No question.
REDROB, I respect yours and other people have opinions, but this is not a black and white case, hence the discussion. Just cos you write "End of", it doesn't make it so.
Sparrow, go into any bookies, write down two horse and write £10 acca. 100% of the time you this will be settled as a double. No question.REDROB, I respect yours and other people have opinions, but this is not a black and white case, hence the dis
I accept what you're saying equine but such carelessness when dealing with money is just asking for trouble. No wonder so many people get ripped off in their daily dealings of life.
I accept what you're saying equine but such carelessness when dealing with money is just asking for trouble.No wonder so many people get ripped off in their daily dealings of life.
Indeed sparrow, I agree. But the mistake has been made now and I guess the discussion is "what happens now".
Morally and ethically, you would say it should be settled as a trixie. However, that would override the actual written instructions (that despite being clumsy) could be argued as still actually valid.
Indeed sparrow, I agree. But the mistake has been made now and I guess the discussion is "what happens now".Morally and ethically, you would say it should be settled as a trixie. However, that would override the actual written instructions (that
In the absence of a rule to the contrary, you should get what you asked for. You have asked for an incorrect number of £25 trebles, there is only one treble on your slip.
Therefore, one £25 treble should be paid in full, with the remaining £50 void. The £25 acca should be applied to all selections on the slip, so is another winning line.
In effect, a £50 treble should be paid, with £50 void.
Returns £1675.00.
In the absence of a rule to the contrary, you should get what you asked for.You have asked for an incorrect number of £25 trebles, there is only one treble on your slip.Therefore, one £25 treble should be paid in full, with the remaining £50 void.
If that were the case then they'd just class it as an overstake, and put him £50 on each treble.
If I wrote three horses on a slip and wrote £10 win singles down, yet put £60 in the total box, they wouldn't return £30 to me, they'd give me three £20 singles and tell me I'd overstaked my bet.
If that were the case then they'd just class it as an overstake, and put him £50 on each treble.If I wrote three horses on a slip and wrote £10 win singles down, yet put £60 in the total box, they wouldn't return £30 to me, they'd give me three