policeman knifed

Has Baroness Wartsi made a statement yet?

Two dead now.

Mar 22, 2017 -- 5:23PM, GLASGOWCALLING wrote:

Seems strange for plod to announce terrorist so quickly. ?

Usually they do that when the murderer was "known to the authorities" and they have done fa about him.

Benedict Cucumber will be along shortly to remind us to respect the Asian attackers human rights.

Liberal Mafia will keep quiet for time being and then it will be all the usual garbage....

Lol they are doing all they can to keep him alive , he will be god inside the muslim run prison population.

The fact that all these mentally ill prospective footballers happen to be Muslims, is entirely coincidental, OVERSEAS. Hth.

Fascist forum please

You surprise me, dunc, but try googling BNP, you should find one.

Enoch was vilified at the time - bet he's saying 'you should have listened to me 50 years ago , wouldn't be in this mess today'

The medical staff  should do everything they can to keep the terrorists alive and as soon as they are tried and convicted they should be publicly hung drawn and quartered.

Just need a national conscription for a full house

Disgusting scenes

This is just about the only country where such a maniac would not have been shot dead. Hope they can get some useful info from him but I doubt it.

Trump is right you know , shout him down as much as you like
He is still right

TRUMP is BANG ON

Sounds as if he was shot dead-unless it was an innocent bystander.

Doubt it, he'll be some random out to make a "name" for himself, doubtful he has any links to something more substantial, just looks like a random opportunistic attack.

Dreseed up like Isis

dressed

Can't get my head round the fact that, more people in their own communities don't warn authorities someone is going off rails

I guess they learned from the Berlin attacks where the arrested and blamed some random for acouple of days

more blood on the hands of the liberal left

One policeman, the attacker and 2 others killed and others critical. Central London will be shut for a few days.

Until these people are confirmed muslims why would the media report them as such TMB ?

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He is still right

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Mar 22, 2017 -- 7:04PM, fredlyn wrote:

Can't get my head round the fact that, more people in their own communities don't warn authorities someone is going off rails

best report i heard was on via bbc from someone (a named person ) i cant rem who was in a prominent position overlooking the scene said two people ,one white and one black ,white guy had two knifes and reckoned the black guy with a beard ran towards the policeman .

Looks like one of those mown down on bridge may have went into the river

Thats right wonder, perhaps amilitary junta is what is required?

sorry quoted wrong message

that was for      try my best

Mar 22, 2017 -- 7:04PM, Try My Best wrote:

Not one news channel have said he's a muslim. Facking disgrace there media. Bunch of left wing ass h0les

best report i heard was on via bbc from someone (a named person ) i cant rem who was in a prominent position overlooking the scene said two people ,one white and one black ,white guy had two knifes and reckoned the black guy with a beard ran towards the policeman .

Looks like one of those mown down on bridge may have went into the river

Someone who calls himself 'oberfuhrer' is a worry

He said two people emerged from the car

how long - before houses parliament becomes a sharia court - Buckingham Palace a mosque - and the rest of us told to convert or be in the in the S.H.Y.T

Mar 22, 2017 -- 7:27PM, fredlyn wrote:

how long - before houses parliament becomes a sharia court - Buckingham Palace a mosque - and the rest of us told to convert or be in the in the S.H.Y.T

If you were cowardly enough to let such a thing occur, you would deserve it.  For a start we need a constitution that makes it illegal to base laws on religion.

You may well need to run that idea past the freemasons first

I think most people would prefer they didn't overtake the indigenous population dave, rather than making laws to protect us when they do.

those peeps stuck on the london eye will have probs recorded the whole thing on their phones, probs footage to come.


what Id like to know is where the f uck was snoopers charter then?
clearly our liberty is lost and for what?

Mental illness and religion is a deadly combo

The snoopers charter is just to save money after some c-nt has committed a crime.  "He was  looking at this and that your honour"   Prob to frame a few folk also.  As already discussed, they know who 90% of these people are but don't monitor them.

3000 on that list

700 trained terrorists have returned

nothing to worry about there

named abu izzadeen and then c4 news just said he's still in prison!

Hilarious, C4 News1 been pulled, if it aint him he'll skint em in court

wish they would make their minds up

aka trevor brookes?

rumours on facebook ^^^^^^^^^^^^

BIT OLD FOR FACEBOOK AINT YA FOYLES

not me the missus said rumours on there ! i have never been on there or twatter ,honest !

Not sure how we ever got to the stage when muslims get preferential treatment..

Once they have knifed bombed and shot a few others in London perhaps the mood will change...

just need to follow the irish jihad route

And the B.B.C prattling on about the poor M.P.s being locked in Westminster for hours and hours while the real sufferers were either dead or in a critical condition was a disgrace.

5 dead 14 injured

40 injured in the last report I saw. Includes a lot of foreign nationals who probably thought London was a safer place to visit. Hindsight is always easy but it does beg the question as to why it is possible to have a pavement wide enough to drive a vehicle along with no crash barriers or other systems to keep vehicles from using them so close to Parliament.

every mobile TV camera and microphone is deployed on the streets of Westminster this morning. A lot of very disheveled and cold looking reporters and for what? Get back to your studios and report properly.

you would of thought a frontline  policeman was given knife/bulletproof vest

All the lefties would be up in arms if we had Police walking around like that, probably upset a few so not allowed. I fear for anyone bringing up young children in this Country as it stands, as the future is bleak. Not allowed to say anything remotely controversial or get called a racist etc, and they wonder why right wing/vigilante groups are popping up. Surprised a few haven't said enough wasn't done by the services to help the terrorist yet.

The message of "we will not be divided" is some sort of joke I assume?

TheFear: Mental illness and religion is a deadly combo Sad

Religion is a mental illness!!

british born

what is 'international terrorism'?
Not doing the harmony thing much good using words like international in place of Islamic.
They don't want to say Islamic because not all Islam follows the doctrine....but international is ok?

Magic__Daps • March 23, 2017 10:24 AM GMT
All the lefties would be up in arms if we had Police walking around like that, probably upset a few so not allowed.

walofs

seriously, you think that anyone has an issue with police wearing protective vests?  Pathetic!  Anyway every policeman I see on the streets does have a vest.

The biggest irony is that it is the right wing who are easily manipulated by terrorists to do exactly what the terrorists want.

While I agree with the statements in Parliament today, I am under no doubt that terrorists have changed all of our lives, however much we try to defy them. Anyone who has boarded a flight since 9/11/2001 knows what a profound change has occurred and only this week, a new ban on using computers etc. on planes from certain countries. I have little doubt that the ban will spread as every country will wish to be seen as taking the maximum precautions. Even those going to Cheltenham, Ascot, Wimbledon or no doubt many other sporting events have to subject themselves to a search. Terrorists may be paying with their own lives but they are affecting the lives of almost every citizen of every country on the planet.

Terrorists may be paying with their own lives but they are affecting the lives of almost every citizen of every country on the planet.

Which has been the case for many people in many countries ad infinitum - we generally live a very cosseted life in the west as we only make the weapons that get used. This incident shows just how crap these people are and how unafraid we should all be - can you imagine, 1981 snug bar of 'The Drogheda Massacre Arms' in Kilburn:

Paddy 1: What are we going to do for our next job?
Paddy 2: I know - I'll  take a couple of kitchen knives, drive a morris minor to parliament, run into it and see how far I can get and how many I can kill.
Paddy 3: Giggles.
Paddy 1: Laughs uncontrollably.
Paddies 3,4&5: Also laugh uncontrollably and 5 shoots 2 for having such a pathetic plan that will obviously achieve feck all apart from making them look stupid.

In 1981 this plan might have actually achieved something as even though bombs were going off regularly security was nothing like it is today. If this is all these terrorists have got then there really is nothing to worry about - after all we all love the Irish now don't we?

In the highly unlikely event that some terrorist cell is sitting there reading this thread they will be rubbing their hands with glee. Plan firmly on track, get the right to blame the left, ostracise sections of the community, divide and conquer. Lets be clear who is to blame for this. It's the guy who did it and his ilk. The so called left agenda is to ensure that we don't succumb to scapegoating innocent people, regardless of whether we agree with their politics or their religion, (which i personally would be happy to challenge as absurd in any civilised debate, and even support legislation that kept religion out of politics). Without wishing to trivialise - imagine a bunch of yobs on bus trip from Basildon tearing it up one Saturday afternoon at Ascot. You apply for tickets for the next meeting - you have a Basildon post code and get a less than polite reply "sorry you're not coming". This is the root of fascism - lets not fall for it.

and of course the hundreds of people killed or injured yesterday in car crashes, violent robbery, domestic disputes will get at best a one line report and after the events of yesterday will be totally ignored. If a "terrorist commits murder it is (rightly perhaps) world news for days to the exclusion of anything else. As a country dweller, I am grateful that I only need to visit a large conurbation once a year or less and then it is usually to board a plane. I haven't been to a city centre for years nor do I intend to.

British born, British bred, British citizen. As british as those on here saying 'why let them in etc'. Just glanced through this thread it reads like some kind of National Front forum at times.

Horrible what happened yesterday, probably by someone mentally ill that happens to be a muslim, if he didn't do it for this cause he would probably have found another reason. Just a shame that at times like this the right wingers decide its a good time to criticise 'lefties' and tar anyone who happens to be a different colour, religion, race or nationality to them with the same brush as a guy who probably has nothing in common with any of them. When Jo Cox was murdered I didn't see people on here saying UKIP supporters need to be thrown out of the country!

meanwhile - daily occurrence in america


Thursday 23 March 2017

A police officer and three other people were shot and killed when a domestic dispute at a bank escalated into shootings at three locations in northern Wisconsin on Wednesday, investigators said.

A suspect was taken in custody after the shootings, which happened at a bank, a law firm and an apartment complex. Officers, including a Swat team, had a standoff with the suspect for several hours at the apartment site before it ended in a volley of gunfire at about 5pm.

A British born, British citizen 1st time poster. How would you have dealt with this man before the attack? Just out of interest? There have been probably a dozen muslim people that have tried to commit this kind of thing in the UK in the last 10 years, a tiny fraction of the British Muslim population, should all other muslims suffer because they worship the same god as the tiny fraction that want to do people harm? Did you advocate throwing out all catholic people in the 80's and 90's?

Re the question of stab vests. One assumes the officer was wearing one. But obviously wasn't effective enough to save his life.

Where he was born has only limited relevance to what he believed and what he wished to achieve. Of course most Moslems oppose this sort of thing as many Irish Catholics opposed the IRA but I doubt if mental illness was the factor. The message coming from ISIL and fellow travelers to anyone who finds them attractive is "kill and maim as many infidels as possible" We do have to wait for the full facts in this case but the attacks in Paris, Brussels and elsewhere were clearly organized and inspired by an ideology.

Just read an eye witness account, who states the officer was stabbed in the back of the head and neck

alegedly he was known to the security services so why dont they start deporting themfamily and friends,dont seem to have any problem deporting football fans,drunken holiday makers etc,
the more those on the edges see nothing happening to those more inbedded than themselves just encourages the snake to grow,they swan in and out of jail,in and out of the middle east without a are in the world,if some actualy want to go and fight in  the middle east we unbelievably try to stop them

in antwerp the same happened but they could stop him

Where exactly would you deport a British citizen to? He is now dead which saves us the expense of trial and imprisonment so spend the money saved on more police aand better protection for public places.

prob had security vest then

TO commit mass murder I think people must be mentally ill? Perhaps i'm wrong.

As sageform asked though, where could we possibly 'deport' a British born, British citizen to? If someone is 'known' to the security services and there is evidence that they are planning to commit a crime the person will be dealt with, if there is no evidence then as with every other citizen they are innocent until proven guilty; Unfortunately on occasions as seems to be the case here, someone has slipped through the net.

The problem is to assume these things can be stopped.
How do you stop an individual drive along a pavement?

Those in their protected lair hiding inside parliament after a lock down while 40 individuals outside layed prostrate shows you the divide.

What then occurs is the often repeated mantra of 'they wont win','thank you thank you thank you protective policeman you saved me' and 'get back to work'

bloke in antwerp french national with north african roots thank the lord for that he,ll be mentaly ill,if he,d been white he,d have been the son of hitler or a fascist

Agree that this sort of crime is hard to stop but we can make it impossible to drive along pavements or pedestrian precincts by putting zig zag railings every 50 yards.

Every time a right winger spews their bigoted nonsense, ISIS says "job done".

sageform • March 23, 2017 2:38 PM GMT
Agree that this sort of crime is hard to stop but we can make it impossible to drive along pavements or pedestrian precincts by putting zig zag railings every 50 yards.

You honestly think they would do this?
If you believe that is possible and they dont do it then their non action speaks volumes....while they add another checkpoint outside parliament no doubt

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23 Mar 17 13:19
A British born, British citizen 1st time poster. How would you have dealt with this man before the attack? Just out of interest? There have been probably a dozen muslim people that have tried to commit this kind of thing in the UK in the last 10 years, a tiny fraction of the British Muslim population, should all other muslims suffer because they worship the same god as the tiny fraction that want to do people harm? Did you advocate throwing out all catholic people in the 80's and 90's?


Seeing as he was on the radar he must have done something previously? If ANYONE spouts the shoite that some of these extremists do (whether that be via facebook/twatter/youtube/on the street/mosque etc), then change the law and bang them up for 10 years in solitary. If they are not British born turf them out to the rock they crawled out of. Don't let them go in with the population in prison, let them rot alone and not putting their ideology onto other vulnerable people. That would be what I would be doing if I had the choice. I also don't mean to convict them on hearsay, actual evidence of anything large or small. If they don't like our society then they shouldn't be allowed to populate amongst it.

Second point - no, not all other muslims should suffer, but don't tell me that no others knew he was a loose cannon and had been brainwashed? When are their own going to actually stand up and do something about it?

Muslim apologist now getting air time on the BBC.

"When incidents like this happen, people mistakenly associate it with ISLAM."
____________-

What else does he expect?

^ - and/or ....

What else would we expect from him.

Difficult to believe this is a racing forum given the level of hatred being spewed out by many of the racist limp-wristed keyboard warriors who sadly proliferate on here like bluebottles round freshly steaming excrement!
I go racing frequently and win or lose it is always an enjoyable experience  because of the wonderful warm friendly people I encounter all over the UK. This is why it's so shocking to me  that a racing forum could contain so many knuckle-dragging red-neck BNP-type  bigots, who are known to get off by abusing innocent Muslims, usually women! Fearless fellas these jingoistic scumbags!

With you Ihal - but there are some of us in the thread who have tried to counter with a measure of decency. All you can do is stand up to bigotry wherever it surfaces, but you probably know perfectly well that it will proliferate in times like this, and by definition, you won't change their minds - if you could, then it wouldn't be bigotry.

ihal essex -

With your comments - You appear to live in some kind of Rose Garden.

Many, other, people live in former decent areas of Cities and Towns that have been, or are becoming, overrun by people who display NO interest whatsoever in integrating into the culture, or community, of this country.

Worse still - Several, indeed many in some areas, have managed to wriggle their way into positions of power on the local councils (through enforced block voting by their ilk) - then changing the rules and demographic of the local council to suit ONLY THEIR needs and intentions.... For example, countless personal dwellings becoming NOT liable to  Council Tax by being deemed a place of worship, for various dubious reasons - and getting unopposed planning permission for a new mosque on practically every street corner.

How many mosques do they NEED?

- and people precisely like you, then say that the sufferers of such a one-sided scenario; alongside an almost equally enforced politically correct acceptance policy - are meant to just keep stum.

ihal essex - name and shame, rather than just blanket calling people on here bigots and racists. So at least they can respond to your post (hopefully respectfully).

This forum once again lives up to it's reputation, and never fails to do anything other than disappoint.

Mar 24, 2017 -- 12:37PM, ihal essex wrote:

Difficult to believe this is a racing forum given the level of hatred being spewed out by many of the racist limp-wristed keyboard warriors who sadly proliferate on here like bluebottles round freshly steaming excrement!I go racing frequently and win or lose it is always an enjoyable experience  because of the wonderful warm friendly people I encounter all over the UK. This is why it's so shocking to me  that a racing forum could contain so many knuckle-dragging red-neck BNP-type  bigots, who are known to get off by abusing innocent Muslims, usually women! Fearless fellas these jingoistic scumbags!

please name instead of generalising

Good thing there aren't any Islamic jockeys. Can you imagine the flack they would get if they didn't ride out their mount or fell off at an obstacle!

Onlooker: no, I don't live in a rose garden - I am fully aware of the regrettable ghettoisation of certain areas of London, caused in some part by fear of people who share your prejudices! Accusing me of generalising is rich after your rant below. Do you know of one  Muslim you consider worthy of living in this sceptrediisle?
Who is most honest, Sadiq Khan or Boris Johnson?
The difference between you and I is that both my eyes are open!
Now I'm off to the pub, oh ****, I forgot, it's now a culture centre!
Have a nice day!

What a waste of time all this self-serving religious waffling - currently taking place on Parliament Square, and shown on BBC and SkyNews - is.

It is precisely because of all these nonsensical, and irrational, beliefs that we have these incidents - all over the world.

onlooker 12.21    ..    great post

**this ONCE great Nation has.

Magic : stop stressing, GB still a GREAT NATION, well.....at least until Scotland cuts the umbilical cord!

religion your born you live and you die religion is for fools

How the feck has my post just been removed?

You got any proof on the note, mad dog?

that not the*

So it seems the evidence that was presented by campaigners to politicians who then disregarded it turns out to be true.

The assertion was that snooper charter that spies on all those acting within the law misses the very terrorists the politicians said it was implemented to stop.

The technology specialists said the terrorists would simply use encrypted methods.

80 hours after the guy is dead the snoops are still scratching their head over who and what was said on whatsapp right before he went killing.