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my question is...what was seamie heffernans first ride in Britain.....and for a bonus............who trained it
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Oh and the trainer was the grandfather of the current registered owner of these colours.
Which 2000 Guineas winner did an absolutely massive dump before going into the stalls an onto fame and glory, whereas it should have been suspended for bringing the sport into disrepute?
It was indeed. The dirty scoundrel. Completely put my beloved Mill Reef off his stride.
Which classic-winning ex-Flat Jockey correctly tipped me Flakey Dove for the 1994 Champion Hurdle while standing next to me at the urinals, and I never backed the beast?
Tick/VG ged. It is she, and as you know her maternal grandfather was William Hastings-Bass. Do you remember seeing these colours on the racecourse?
No I don't. In fact I was guessing they were Gerald Balding's! Are 'ornamentations' now an official description, or was that yours?
Which horse beat both Bula and Pendil in the same race ?
Rory More O'Ferrall used to have colours that were 'Emerald, gold braid & tassel on cap" which would have clashed heartily with the Hastings(-Bass) colours, should they ever have met.
ged - no ornamentations is my own. They have braid on the front as normal braid but then a kind of embroidered sleeve/wrist decoration.
More O'Ferrall's colours also included Gold stars on the cap. You are right that they are very similar though. The More O'Ferrall family always had flashy colours like Rose Pink and/or Flame, mostly with black seams and cap, and the odd tassel thrown in.
2 amateur jockeys who won the sun alliance hurdle in the 80s ?
Shock Result was the one that beat Bula and Pendil wasn't it???
25/1 shot called Shock Result , beats two of the Winter Legends ......don't imagine the Life had too much difficulty getting a headline out of that.
That was a rotten day. Bula and Pendil were my 2 favourite horses of NH in those times.
One for the oldies. Which successful NH Trainer's racing colours included "navy blue waistcoat". The body, cap and striped sleeves being a form of the colour yellow.
I believe it was a man who rode in the Grand National 3 times, was 3 times champion trainer, married the stepdaughter of PG Wodehouse, and once put on a partnersip of 207 against Surrey with a man who served as both a Labour MP and as a Conservative MP.
You are too good ged, and thanks for not giving it away
Here's a picture of Peter Cazalet in his cadet's uniform when he was about 15....
http://guardsmagazine.com/features_winter15_07Cazelet.html
...and here's a quote from Harry Whiteman, re the latter stages of the 1936 Grand National. Whiteman held the licence for the Cazalet horses at Fairlawne before WW2. In the 1960s, he (Whiteman) trained at Cree Lodge, from where Nigel Angus trained Roman Warrior, and where Linda Perratt trained for a long time....
(it relates mainly to the infamous incident with Davy Jones, and his amateur rider Anthony Mildmay, in whose joint (with Cazalet) honour, the Sandown staying chase was run for many years)
"I was on the Aintree stands and thought everything was going so well, with my two runners, Emancipator, ridden by Mr Cazalet, and Davy Jones, ridden by Mr Anthony Mildmay. Emancipator was travelling well in fourth place, three fences from home, when he fell. But I still had Davy Jones standing and going so nicely that I really thought myself certain to achieve the big ambition of every trainer of steeplechasers and win the Grand National. He took the third fence from home, and for me he was travelling better than his only serious opponent, Reynoldstown, who was carrying 12st 2lb and was conceding Davy a lot of weight. Davy Jones took the second last perfectly and success looked certain. But then he swerved to his left and out of the course and Reynoldstown was left with the race at his mercy. Later I found the buckle on his reins had loosened and that broke the rein. So that, try as he would, Mr Mildmay could not steer Davy Jones, who finished amongst the spectators gathered on the far side between the last two fences."
http://guardsmagazine.com/features_winter15_07Cazelet.html
...and here's a quote from Harry Whiteman, re the latter stages of the 1936 Grand National. Whiteman held the licence for the Cazalet horses at Fairlawne before WW2. In the 1960s, he (Whiteman) trained at Cree Lodge, from where Nigel Angus trained Roman Warrior, and where Linda Perratt trained for a long time....
(it relates mainly to the infamous incident with Davy Jones, and his amateur rider Anthony Mildmay, in whose joint (with Cazalet) honour, the Sandown staying chase was run for many years)
"I was on the Aintree stands and thought everything was going so well, with my two runners, Emancipator, ridden by Mr Cazalet, and Davy Jones, ridden by Mr Anthony Mildmay. Emancipator was travelling well in fourth place, three fences from home, when he fell. But I still had Davy Jones standing and going so nicely that I really thought myself certain to achieve the big ambition of every trainer of steeplechasers and win the Grand National. He took the third fence from home, and for me he was travelling better than his only serious opponent, Reynoldstown, who was carrying 12st 2lb and was conceding Davy a lot of weight. Davy Jones took the second last perfectly and success looked certain. But then he swerved to his left and out of the course and Reynoldstown was left with the race at his mercy. Later I found the buckle on his reins had loosened and that broke the rein. So that, try as he would, Mr Mildmay could not steer Davy Jones, who finished amongst the spectators gathered on the far side between the last two fences."
Emancipator would have been wearing the navy blue waistoat over canary yellow.
Also trained Devon Loch who so nearly won the GN for the Queen Mother
Name 2 horses that have won a flat group race in England at odds of 100/1
Well done ged and Andrew - Mr Cazalet it is and Canary and Navy Blue it is too. Sorry for the late ack but I had to go out to visit a friend.
Jockey with initials DW..... Rode a high profile winner around Aintree in the 1990s. Not the Grand National. Name horse, trainer and race.
pogle 07 Feb 17 20:59
Who really trained Flockton Grey?
Stephen Wiles
Who really trained Flockton Grey?
Stephen Wiles
Name the three jockeys who finished 1st, 2nd, 3rd and were stood down for careless and improper riding. The 4th placed horse got the race.
WD pumphol and forgotmyusername I think they are the only 2 horses to have won a flat group race at 100/1.
Thanks Blackbarn, I wouldn't have got the answer via the colours, but ged gave enough clues (specially the cricket)
Thanks Blackbarn, I wouldn't have got the answer via the colours, but ged gave enough clues (specially the cricket)
Kincsem,
If it's the race i think (Queen Anne at RA) - Starkey and Eddery were 2 of them
If it's the race i think (Queen Anne at RA) - Starkey and Eddery were 2 of them
That IS the race Andrew - 1974. I do not know who the disqualified riders were, but Brian Taylor was on the fourth Brook who was awarded the race.
Name the only horse to have won a classic since 1900 that raced under a different name as a 2yo, when his run of 5 consecutive wins included the Woodcote at Epsom, New Stakes at Ascot(now the Norfolk Stakes) and Champagne Stakes at Doncaster, and made him Timeform's top 2yo that year.
My Babu? - raced as Lerins as a 2yo and won the 2000 guineas. I know he won the Champagne and I think he won the New but not sure of the Woodcote.
blackbarn - yes, well done. The Woodcote was his 2nd win. He won at 1/3 by 5 lengths. Edgar Britt rode him, and was his regular jockey as a 2yo, but Charlie Smirke was the retained jockey the following year with Sam Armstrong having moved down from Middleham to Newmarket.
Lerins's rival for top 2yo rating was The Cobbler, who won the Coventry and Middle Park. They finished 1-2 in the 2000gns. (in those days, 6f 2yo form seemed to hold up much better in the 2000gns). As 4yos, My Babu won the Victoria Cup (at Hurst Park), and The Cobbler (beaten in the Victoria Cup) won the Wokingham. Times change.
Jockey with initials DW..... Rode a high profile winner around Aintree in the 1990s. Not the Grand National. Name horse, trainer and race.
David Walsh, Bartan Bank, David Nicholson and the Martell Cup.
I sometimes wonder what happened to DW - he left as quick as he arrived but certainly seemed useful to me and got a great tune out of old Barton, who had started to look a little jaded until he threw a leg over him.
David Walsh, Bartan Bank, David Nicholson and the Martell Cup.
I sometimes wonder what happened to DW - he left as quick as he arrived but certainly seemed useful to me and got a great tune out of old Barton, who had started to look a little jaded until he threw a leg over him.
BartOn Bank, of course. Can't even get one of my favourite horse's name right 
I was at Aintree that day. I remember seeing Alan Potts there. I backed bonny little Midnight Legend in the first race, then couldn't touch a thing, starting with softie Merry Deal against BB.
Name the only 2 horses to have twice finished in front of Arkle.
I'm guessing the other one took place during his season before he became the real deal?
Yes. Arkle had won his previous 2 races, but he was still only 5 and running over hurdles. The horse in question did win a big race in Ireland, and was giving Arkle more than a stone and a half both times.
Who won a Grade 1 chase as a jockey and three years later began a sequence of four successive wins as a trainer?
whatever happened to Angus Hill, the name will rekindle the shivers in the old layers guard.
blackbarn - yes. Won the Irish Champion Hurdle in 1962. Trained by Tom Taaffe (Pat's father). Ran 3rd at Baldoyle and 2nd at Fairyhouse in April 1962 in 2m hcap hurdles, ridden by Tos (Pat's brother) and Pat, resp. Arkle was down the field both times carrying light weights. Rainlough had 11-10 and 12-0. In the first race, 10yo Fortria was also down the field carrying 12-7 - this was a month after he almost won the Gold Cup (having previously won 2 Champion Chases). In the 2nd race, other beaten horses were 13yo Quita Que (another Cheltenham regular), and 5yo Ferry Boat, who would be runner-up to Arkle in the 1964 Hennessy.
These would be the last races Arkle would lose until Mill House defeated him in the 1963 Hennessy. He won 2 hcap hurdles in Oct 1962 at Dundalk and Gowran, and then came over to England for the first time for the Honeybourne Chase over 2m4f at Cheltenham in November, opening the card on Mackeson Saturday, going off 11/8 fav and winning by 20 lengths on his chase debut. Fortria won his 2nd Mackeson under 12-0.
These would be the last races Arkle would lose until Mill House defeated him in the 1963 Hennessy. He won 2 hcap hurdles in Oct 1962 at Dundalk and Gowran, and then came over to England for the first time for the Honeybourne Chase over 2m4f at Cheltenham in November, opening the card on Mackeson Saturday, going off 11/8 fav and winning by 20 lengths on his chase debut. Fortria won his 2nd Mackeson under 12-0.
ged - He won that Honeybourne Chase by 20 lengths from Billy Bumps ridden by Bobby Beasley(
). The Times reported "Arkle, ridden quietly and with exquisite care by P Taafe, is a promising type. He won more easily that even the verdict of twenty lengths shows". They were not wrong.
You mentioned Fortria, he carried top weight to win the Mackeson later that same day.
). The Times reported "Arkle, ridden quietly and with exquisite care by P Taafe, is a promising type. He won more easily that even the verdict of twenty lengths shows". They were not wrong. You mentioned Fortria, he carried top weight to win the Mackeson later that same day.
Who won a Grade 1 chase as a jockey and three years later began a sequence of four successive wins as a trainer in the same race?
Which horse fell on his hurdling debut and on his chase debut but became on of the chasing greats featuring in one of the best chase finishes ever?
Correct, ged. 1977 Grand Steeplechase de Paris and then 1980 - 83.
I'm not thinking of Special Cargo, but I don;t have his race record to check his first hurdle and chase. Of course was in one of the great finishes in the 1984 Whitbread.
Only an educated guess as I remember him falling at the last when well clear on his chasing debut at Nottingham of all places....
Spot on gerard. One of my favourites a real trier.
Placings: F211116/94410F433/F111111/221112/115F211/4311212/241333/122135/
Hurdle - R16 W5 P3 - £22,793
Chase - R39 W19 P14 - £578,158
Hurdle - R16 W5 P3 - £22,793
Chase - R39 W19 P14 - £578,158
Name the horse who won a Hurdle,Chase and a flat race on different days at the same Meeting?.
It was in the same week,same year.(4 or 5 day meeting).
To all you anoraks , is there a horse running , in the last at Kempton , that shares its name with a horse of yesteryear ? I may be wrong but I think it was trained by Josh Gifford 20 odd years ago .
NoP - I don't know whether you're thinking of Kim Bailey's Book Of Music, who met his end in a KG6 run at Sandown, in which Josh Gifford's mare Brief Gale also, effectively, met her end.
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_home.sd?horse_id=5522
7#topHorseTabs=horse_race_record&bottomHorseTabs=horse_form
7#topHorseTabs=horse_race_record&bottomHorseTabs=horse_form
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The Galway meeting?
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Nope,it was Tramore.
The Galway meeting?
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Nope,it was Tramore.
now all I need is the name of the horse
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Hoping the answer is not googleable
Originally Con Collins trained him and his first time out in the Phoenix Park, Lester Piggott rode him and there was a big gamble on him and he finished second, got beat a head.He went to a different Trainer for the question period.
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Hoping the answer is not googleable
Originally Con Collins trained him and his first time out in the Phoenix Park, Lester Piggott rode him and there was a big gamble on him and he finished second, got beat a head.He went to a different Trainer for the question period.
Punchestown - this is a really good one. I'd have got it by now if your user name had been Tramore
blackbarn- I was there for the 3 wins as a young lad,it was about 35 years ago or more
Got it!! "Don Mobile" - mind, that was hard to find.
punchestown - I should have just started with a list of Irish genius's and gone from there. Didn't know he "sat on" Golden Cygnet.
The great Michael O'Riordan...
I did all the work with the horses myself and rode them all and it was hard to get better than Jack Of Trumps as the best I had down here. For his short career, he was ante post favourite for the Gold Cup and was able to win a Cesarewitch but the very best horse I ever rode was Golden Cygnet.
He was known as the hairy donkey because nobody could ride him. He was one of the best horses I ever even saw, never mind say I rode. I just backed him and got him going, got him manageable, that was all but he was a remarkable horse. He never got a slap of a stick to win a race and if he had got one, he wouldn't have won!
I did a lot for Edward O’Grady over the years. He had an oul horse one time called Don Mobile. Con Collins trained him first and he ran first time out in the Phoenix Park, Lester Piggott rode him and there was a big gamble on him and he finished second, got beat a head.
Edward bought him later off Con Collins and I think he ran 16 times and he couldn't get into a bracket. In the end they couldn't ride him out as he wouldn't go down the road or whatever so he came to me for four or five months. He won eight races I think, four of them were from Friday to the next Friday. He won at Kilbeggan and won three the following week at the festival meeting in Tramore.
They were all grand horses to handle in a sense because when they came in the gate here they had absolutely no value. Whatever pressure was here you made it yourself, but these horses weren't coming in with a colossal value, they were scrap you could say, and they could only improve you couldn't make them worse!
There’s luck and luck too isn’t there? I was lucky to get them horses and every morning you pull out the legs you call on luck to get you through the day.
My kind of work wouldn't be needed or appreciated today because it’s a different scene altogether. All the trainers have all-weather tracks and they do their work inside on them and if they don’t do it there they don’t run and that’s it.
I did all the work with the horses myself and rode them all and it was hard to get better than Jack Of Trumps as the best I had down here. For his short career, he was ante post favourite for the Gold Cup and was able to win a Cesarewitch but the very best horse I ever rode was Golden Cygnet.
He was known as the hairy donkey because nobody could ride him. He was one of the best horses I ever even saw, never mind say I rode. I just backed him and got him going, got him manageable, that was all but he was a remarkable horse. He never got a slap of a stick to win a race and if he had got one, he wouldn't have won!
I did a lot for Edward O’Grady over the years. He had an oul horse one time called Don Mobile. Con Collins trained him first and he ran first time out in the Phoenix Park, Lester Piggott rode him and there was a big gamble on him and he finished second, got beat a head.
Edward bought him later off Con Collins and I think he ran 16 times and he couldn't get into a bracket. In the end they couldn't ride him out as he wouldn't go down the road or whatever so he came to me for four or five months. He won eight races I think, four of them were from Friday to the next Friday. He won at Kilbeggan and won three the following week at the festival meeting in Tramore.
They were all grand horses to handle in a sense because when they came in the gate here they had absolutely no value. Whatever pressure was here you made it yourself, but these horses weren't coming in with a colossal value, they were scrap you could say, and they could only improve you couldn't make them worse!
There’s luck and luck too isn’t there? I was lucky to get them horses and every morning you pull out the legs you call on luck to get you through the day.
My kind of work wouldn't be needed or appreciated today because it’s a different scene altogether. All the trainers have all-weather tracks and they do their work inside on them and if they don’t do it there they don’t run and that’s it.
Yes G-G , Book of Gold was the horse that I was thinking of .
Talking of Tramore , I thought it very unusual when I attended there , you can't see the racing action around 2/3 furlongs from the winning post , because of the hill they have to climb on the home straight . I thought it was quaint and possibly unique . That was until I attended Carlisle racecourse .
Talking of Tramore , I thought it very unusual when I attended there , you can't see the racing action around 2/3 furlongs from the winning post , because of the hill they have to climb on the home straight . I thought it was quaint and possibly unique . That was until I attended Carlisle racecourse .
Well done blackbarn,Golden Cygnet was an unbelievable prospect,can't forget him at Ayr tugging his jockeys arms off cantering over Night Nurse and Sea Pigeon 2 out and him still a Novice..
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