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this country is really a joke, brexit won , just get on with it, supreme judges are mostly remainers so no sursprise there, now we will have months of delays
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all gina millers fault, why cant their just accept they lost, they say its not about stopping brexit but it is defo about delaying it and stopping exit of the single market
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Wrong forum.
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Well, the EU costs us £350Million PER WEEK!
It's unbelievable to me that anyone thinks that's acceptable for a membership of what exactly? A club that tells us what to do and when to do it. I just don't get anyone wanting to be a part of it! |
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yes, but we do get some of that 350 million back
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The remainers didn't lose anything stating that the UK had to withdraw from the EU, it's just that many of the Brexit voters were clueless as to what they were actually voting on. The Brexit referendum like all of them was never legally binding considering parliament is sovereign and so can if it chooses to have the final word via MPs voting to remain or leave.
The irony is that many Brexit voters repeated the line about returning sovereignty to the UK parliament (despite you suspecting that they had no idea what that actually meant) thereby giving UK MPs the power to make decisions affecting the UK, as opposed to the EU doing so. Yet now those same Brexit voters suddenly don't want the UK parliament/UK MPs to exercise that power by voting on whether the UK remains or leaves the EU. To use an analogy, it's like a group of friends deciding to go out for a meal and everyone votes to nominate another friend from the group to decide which kind of restaurant they will go to. Then someone who if they had won would have chosen Chinese, gets the hump and doesn't want that friend who won the vote to get their choice of going Italian for example, so complain that they thought they were actually voting on which type of restaurant everyone was going to, rather than voting on who got to choose. |
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Good grief, people still telling others that they didn't know what they were voting for, how patronising.
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I thought everyone in Wakefield went to bed at 11.30 there's always one.
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You must be a Syrian refugee who can't sleep
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£350m per week contribution to the EU = £18.2bn a year, are you for real?
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We could give it all to the N.H.S
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We could stop trading with the E.U. and buy Champagne, Cheese, B.M.W's ,Mercedes Benz and Audi's from Macro.
We could stop buying all our clothes shoes and other goods from China and other third world countries and make our own shoes and clothes and trade them with the rest of the world I'm pretty sure with all those rich people in India they would be happy to buy our shoes and other products. |
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More inane ramblings from the forum idiot.
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what about the billions northern Ireland get in grants from the EU,THE UK will have to take on that bill once they leave.
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It wasn't on the ballot paper nor mentioned in the rich vs poor debate, anti-Globalist debate, anti-immigration debate and anti-E.U debate.
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Good grief, people still telling others that they didn't know what they were voting for, how patronising.
Thing is, it is obvious that many people didn't, seeing as we still don't know now what it means do we, not 1 person in the country knows or is even sure of the correct process or the end result! Anyone that thought we would have the ref and that was that, it's done, obviously wasn't aware of all the facts on that matter so why should they be on anything else to do with it? It is not their fault but the whole wretched process wasn't explained to people right from the start - those of us that looked into it (whatever side)) quickly came to the conclusion that (at the very least) it wasn't straightforward. Have a think for a minute - if the gov had gone ahead with this as they wanted (illegally) then at any point this case could have been brought and it (leaving process) would all collapse and need to be started again. If Miller et al were after stopping it then that is what they would have done. A gov white paper is produced for all (EU) treaty negotiations (could have been written in July and be done and dusted ages ago) so maybe you should ask yourselves why not this one? |
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my Mum didnt have a vote but said she would have voted Brexit 'because they were going to make us change our flag'
 ...they buy the Daily Mail, can only presume that's were she got that idea...of course there was the guy who voted Brexit cos 'there are too many P@kis'...and of course there were many who voted Brexit for the £350 million a week that was going to go to the NHS instead, a lie that was backtracked on the very next day...a democracy built on lies, false promises and stupidity isnt much to shout about tbh |
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I'm not worried because Trump will sort America out in 2 years then while we're still moaning to each other he will come and sort Europe out for us, we need a leader who does actions not waffle bloody waffle just so in 5 years time they're still getting all their perks while the poor/elderly and ex servicemen/women still suffer in silence.
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It will happen soon enough.
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Why blame Gina Miller , she's only a puppet. the real culprit is Cameron and co who drew up the question knowing fine well they had a get out clause no matter how the vote went.
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The sad thing is if Brexit happens we will be able to stop E.U. workers coming to our Country but the price is our own freedom in Europe
as we will no longer be free to live and work there it's a no sum gain. |
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ladycarla 25 Jan 17 11:19
I'm not worried because Trump will sort America out in 2 years does one or  ? |
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Just watched PM questions god help us if labour get in power in the next 10 years!!!
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Probably hoping we become the 51st state.
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saddo 25 Jan 17 00:12
Good grief, people still telling others that they didn't know what they were voting for, how patronising. I think the final word you were looking for in your sentence there was "accurate." If you knew what you were voting on (assuming you voted) then fine but you can't and don't speak for everyone else. The referendum was advisory only and so can not be legally binding, so if anyone actually thought by voting to leave the EU if that was how the successful vote went, that the government/parliament had to honour that then they were clearly mistaken and from what I've heard and read from some Brexit voters, plenty actually thought that. "Could MPs block an EU exit? Could the necessary legislation pass the Commons, given that a lot of MPs - all SNP and Lib Dems, nearly all Labour and many Conservatives - were in favour of staying? The referendum result is not legally binding - Parliament still has to pass the laws that will get Britain out of the 28 nation bloc, starting with the repeal of the 1972 European Communities Act." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887 Are you familiar with the phrase don't shot the messenger saddo? |
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just catching up with this thread..it is amazing the remainers knew exactly what they were voting for whereas the leavers didnt have a clue and were ignorant..total arrogance and one of the main reasons we wanted to get away from brussels.
and as an aside the nhs should not get all the 350mil because it would just dissappear into the hospital blackhole and we would be in the same place again in a couple years |
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You have no choice, just accept it, someone else's concepts, so much propaganda the truth is hard to see, and that is the way they like it. Capitalism is now imploding on itself, no Russian communists anymore to blame, no socialist either, so now we have the made up PUTIN monster they would have us believe? the MacDonalds flags fly large in Russia, the yanks landed a long time ago.
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The jocks play on nationalism is so bizarre it is funny, you got Trump owning plenty of lands, and poor jock wants all their land taken by Europe
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The Britsh Public have no faith in government that continue to tell them lies, promise border closures, etc then the opposite becomes the reality. 1000 men for one job, and homelessness the objective of the competitive capitalist society, they already have achieved it, yet they want more of the same.
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Brexit why did they call the vote?probably because of statistically useless information from secret polls, which on the whole is what statistics are.(USELESS)
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The Banks should use more stats |
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Best teach um to count first.
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The horrendous assumption that the average Briton knew enough about the operation of the EU to vote on it in a referendum lies at the heart of Brexit question. They just do not understand the EU well enough (as many of the posts here adequately prove). You might as well ask them to vote on the regulations governing the operation of power stations. This is a classic issue that has to be left to Parliament.
In the end Cameron actually believed that the size of the "get the foreigners out" brigade would not be a highly significant factor (probably due to his sheltered existence). What a mug. Now off earning millions a year describing how he got everything right! We now even have complaints against Supreme Court decisions. Pathetic. What next? Abolish courts of law because they sometimes give rulings I don't like? |
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Agreed Jimmy.
Reducing something of such complexity to a yes/no was ridiculous. Very few, certainly not those who are now supposedly leading Brexit planning, had any idea of what leaving the EU would actually mean. Extraordinary, for example, that Theresa May is likely to trumpet a special US/UK relationship this week, leading to wonderful trade deals, when she's forbidden to do any deals until we're out of the EU. An unprecedented mess and one our children will pay for. Hundreds of thousands of ex pats will come back here, unable to claim health benefits in costa del crime, just at the same time as EU citizens head back to their own countries. Shortage of labour will become acute very quickly and the elderly who largely got us into this mess will be the first to suffer. |
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isleham 26 Jan 17 10:06
..it is amazing the remainers knew exactly what they were voting for whereas the leavers didnt have a clue and were ignorant..total arrogance.... I don't believe anyone has actually claimed that anywhere but it's patently obvious that some (key word there) Leavers didn't really get what their vote represented, considering what has happened (or not happened more accurately) since the referendum. Do you seriously think that many voters whose only previous voting experience was on who should be evicted from the Big Brother house or should win the X-Factor but were now deciding to vote on the referendum, fully understood all that it meant? I know some people who voted Leave because apparently 80 million Muslim Turks would be coming here otherwise, despite Turkey not even being in the EU and never ever being likely to either. There aren't even 80 million Turks in Turkey anyway and even if there was, what's the chances of every single one of them deciding to leave Turkey, let alone deciding to leave and only come here? |
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All the MPs what vote against their own constituency should lose their seat the very next day, I've seen at least 10 MPs who are going to do it saying I'm going to vote with my conscience which means I don't care about my people because their thick, talk about getting above your station!! What about the 'conscience' of the voters.
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they're
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Patronising to think the Brexiteers didn't know what they were voting for. If that is true neither did the Remoaners. Fact is, and its out there on video, it meant we will be leaving the single market, there would be no free movement of people, we could curb mass immigration to a level that suits us and NOT the EU and also make our own laws in Westminster NOT Brussels.
Britain CAN be Great again but not whilst there are moaning whining b'stards still out there who will not recognise a democratic vote. If you don't like it, clear off. |
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Just having my tea,anyone want a sour grape?
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