calling koikeeper

its a tough race..........not a betting race

Do you think, there is a horse running that I would have bet even if the 44 declared all ran

I used to really enjoy your write ups on the hunter chases Koi. Gave me quite a few good winners, shame the nagativity that sometimes infects this forum made you think better of putting them up :(

I wouldn't put it past you if you had recently seen one in a point to point race

Would hardly back something that I hadnt seen run....plenty of videos to watch..

Negativity,infects,....cue 
Seethingmad.

koi............how do you watch the p\p............is there a site??

^ Yes, a pretty expensive one.  Won't get you your money back!

You are backing the wrong ones then.... its not that expensive

The one i Like tomorrow is REAL MILAN..expected it to be around fav...

Its a massive 20/1

That's a nice price if you can have a bet.

BS alert
The one i Like tomorrow is REAL MILAN..expected it to be around fav...

Its a massive 20/1



It's 7/1-9/1 across the board
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/2017-01-11-taunton/15:10/winner



Forecast
Mon Parrain (9/4), Lord Ben (6/1), Colbert Station (7/1), Tugboat (8/1), Grandioso (10/1), Victor Leudorum (10/1), Barel Of Laughs (12/1), Hazy Tom (14/1), Bound For Glory (16/1), Foynes Island (20/1), Real Milan (20/1), Lilbitluso (25/1), Popaway (25/1), Our Chief (33/1), Richmond (33/1), Ambitious Pursuit (50/1)

That would be the SPORTING LIFE PREDICTION from their page...  maybe that's where much of the "info" comes from 


Can't be the same Koikeeper, mind you, who would spend 3 thousand words describing a race and then tip the odds on favourite each time...

Real Milan opened 20/1 with more than one bookmaker- research properly pasta.

yeh eat more meat to improve vigilance pasta

maybe should read diligence

maybe both

dont diss koi dread ras clart

koi.............if you managed to get 20 youre in a nice trading situation

If it goes as well as the Larkhill horse you picked in this race last year it might get a place if you backed it E.W.

Pastafarian - what a massive bellend trying to call someone a bullsh1tter when completely wrong himself!! You couldn't make it up.

Was 20/1 with 365/pp and 25/1 bf


Still don't let the facts get in the way of a good seethe

Just to help you out - http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/2017-01-11-taunton/15:10/winner/bet-...

Who was going 20-1 or 25-1 at 16.57?

365 were

Some sad pple here. He is selfish enough to put his bets on before posting and you want to check times of bets???

If koi would have came on at 7pm and said he fancied one tomorrow but price went earlier, breedingmad would have come on and slated him for that. Breedingmad is just a seasoned stalker of koikeeper and has been for years - plenty on here know this. He obviously thought the 20/1 was long gone when koi posted at 1657 but made himself look stupid (again).

price was there he had a bet then posted.if it wins he gets slated if he loses he gets slated.

hardly a level playing field that someone can post on here having a go.

put something else up against it if you that clever.

COLBERT STATION IF handbrake OFF GREAT  CHANCE   6/1 

GOOD LUCK KOI AND PUNTERS

SIR WILL  NAP 250 HEREFORD

If koi would have came on at 7pm and said he fancied one tomorrow but price went earlier, breedingmad would have come on and slated him for that. Breedingmad is just a seasoned stalker of koikeeper and has been for years - plenty on here know this. He obviously thought the 20/1 was long gone when koi posted at 1657 but made himself look stupid (again).


  well said magic, some right numptys on here atm. good luck koi if you have had a bet. 

Yes, had a bet at 20s, I actually put the horse up 3 days ago on another site.

Up this early as have the dreaded flu.

What difference does it make if the price was gone anyway? He said what he fancied and that's that regardless of times.

Pastafarian made himself look a complete t1t as was completely wrong, and breedingmad is back to his childish stalking self (and made a complete t1t of himself too). How strange how they both disappeared straight after being made to look pathetic.


Gl koi and plenty of flu about. Expect the idiots to be on if well beat and a no show if it wins, even though Stevie Wonder can see it's a good bet win or lose when on at 20s.

I;ve backed it EW, something I dont normally do but it  seemed the sensible option given the price.

Mr J H Jones 

Who's this then

gl koi btw

Jack Jones... this will be his 1st ride under rules...

I'll be on my Jack Jones if I lose today 

Jack Jones is Pupil Assistant to Kim Bailey. It's his first ride under rules.

Richmond at a huge 40-1

2nd in this last year on heavy off 125 and followed that up with another 2nd to a highly-rated odds-on hotpot.

Been quite highly tried since in class 2 races at Cheltenham and Aintree.

Not ran for 259 days but record fresh is very good - a 3rd, a 2nd and TWO wins.

40-1 is very big...

French bred surely needs SOFT or SOFTER. Otherwise would join you at 40/1. GL.

Let's see what the going looks like after the first couple of races.

Jock on Real Milan always looked like he was coming off ..... winner  was 17L behind Real Milan last time.

I will never understand why punters back in such races? These jockeys are simply out for a "bit of sport" and you're putting your hard earned on them?

A good rider is worth an awful lot in these races and if you are selective they are a great betting medium.

They might have been a useful betting medium for short priced punters but that was about 30 years old. These days virtually every half-decent horse is sold on. They are not much more predictable than your average handicaps.

koikeeper, is the undisputed authority on the forum, on Hunter Chases!

He's put a horse up at 20/1 that's gone off at 5/1, what more can you ask for?

I didn't play today, but horse's don't have to win, to make a profit, (if you're a trader like me!)

Was a perfectly reasoanble shout. No chance you would have got any sort of decent bet at 20s mind.

What would you call a decent bet?

so the only bet on the nose man ,backs ew and now his followers claiming a winning trade out,

"Stalker alert 2" - name all these followers claiming a winning trade out please?

If you cannot see backing at 20/1 when they go off 5/1 isn't a good bet win or lose you should seek another hobby (NAP).


List them all please, the stage is yours 1st time poster..

1st time poster, surely you can see that at 20s it was an EW bet, even for me.

koikeeper,

I find these hunter chases very difficult to work out......it tough knowing how much these horses have deteriorated .....plus some horses have only run in point to points...with most meetings having a hunter chase and doing placepots I do like looking what koikeeper says about the race...so I hope he doesn't  stop posting

As a matter of principle, I'd be delighted pre-race if the horse I'd backed at 20/1 was supported into 5/1 even allowing for a Rule 4 deduction.

The fact that in this instance the inexperienced jockey fell off the horse (and the race was won by a horse that had been well beaten by the selection previously) is just one of those things.

  so the only bet on the nose man ,backs ew and now his followers claiming a winning trade out.

 
  come poster, answer your critics..... we can see your lights on. !!!

* come on.

Koikeeper is about the only poster whose tips I back all the time, he is correct more often than not and that will do for me.

.... agree madvlad, just a shame about the riff raff he attracts. 

dont be so hard on yourselves,

just ignore him glasgow, he contributes zero and comes across a right t1t.

he cant answer your question because his post is wrong and he is only on here because he cant help himself posting on koi's threads.

all after the result off course

1st time loser - name all these people you claim traded out. It isn't hard is it, unless you just made it up to suit your own stalking agenda.

Shame your New Years resolution wasn't to stop being a complete cont for the coming year. Must be too hard to live up to though for you so can see why you haven't bothered trying.

cue a reply with a couple of smileys etc etc usual mo.

He can't make a statement and then not back it up without some substance or it will make him look extremely sad and stupid to everyone else. I know he's thick but he can't surely be that thick can he??

In all fairness the horse was a million when the guy fell off him, an absolute no hoper. It was in the process of running like a drain. The guys who made it a 25/1 chance were alot closer to the mark than its SP.
The fact that the winner finished 17 lengths behind it last time has no relevance whatsoever, even though its an attempt to vindicate the poor selection.

wether its poor or not in your opinion, if stuck up pre race with a reason why, then surely he doesnt deserve the abuse he gets.

coming on after the event like FTP does aint hard and koi did stick up another winner on the same day. strangely he didnt appear on that one

Keep on mincing imo, better off doing that than betting on the nags. Nothing to do with the horse not turning up and being beat before it fell. If you can't see that backing 20/1 shots going off at 5/1 are good bets you are better sticking to having nights in with blokes who watch the ballet.

Why are they going to post on the thread with the 5/2 winner??? It don't suit their own agenda. Expect mincer is smoking a cigar around 1st time posters house shouting kois name out when one he puts up is beat. Sad conts who couldn't make the game pay with tomorrow's paper (nap)

I'm not abusing anyone, but im just saying i dont get the reverence being afforded to this person. I cannot see any reason given why this horse should have been backed.
Hunter chasers are littered with cripples, rejects, horses with ailments and injuries. Very rarely do horses without baggage take part in them and to me nowadays in particular, you will not find worse betting mediums, no matter how many videos you watch.

Win or lose backing 20/1 pokes that go off 5/1 will leave you skint!!! So if it wins in its next few runs what will you say??? Backing in any race has risks but if you have any edge you bet them. You haven't a scooby, the same as 1st time poster who has disappeared

Clueless (NAP) and (NB)

PS - you cannot see any reason to back it because you haven't a clue about its form. No doubt you thought mon partain was still 150 rated and should have carried them home. If it won we would have heard from you I expect saying how much it had in hand!!!

i only posted because koi has made a virtue over the last 4 seasons in saying he only backs on the nose,doesnt bet on betfair and doesnt trade or arb,yet a horse beaten when falling that he backed ew is seen as a good selection because people could have traded or arbed,begs the question of course why koi supporters who claim he always gives them a run for their money would want to be arbing,trading out on a 20,s shot,if they thought he was that good shouldnt they have been doubling their stakes

Oh fecking dear - name the list of people claiming to have traded out. SIMPLE

horses dont have to win to make a profit
earlier post on this thread

It really is pretty pointless getting involved with 1st time poster as he's obviously a bit dim. Probably picked on as child so thinks it's ok to have a go back in later life at someone he will never meet, and a bit envious of because he has a few people who sticks up for him.

Feel free to pick holes in anyone if you can back them up, but the bottom line is you can't. A sad case who is thick as fook and nothing better to do.

It really is pretty pointless getting involved with 1st time poster as he's obviously a bit dim. Probably picked on as child so thinks it's ok to have a go back in later life at someone he will never meet, and a bit envious of because he has a few people who sticks up for him.

Feel free to pick holes in anyone if you can back them up, but the bottom line is you can't. A sad case who is thick as fook and nothing better to do.

it was that good the bright spark posted it twice,

mincer11 12 Jan 17 19:15
In all fairness the horse was a million when the guy fell off him, an absolute no hoper. It was in the process of running like a drain. The guys who made it a 25/1 chance were alot closer to the mark than its SP.
The fact that the winner finished 17 lengths behind it last time has no relevance whatsoever, even though its an attempt to vindicate the poor selection.

had to laugh at that

No doubt you thought mon partain was still 150 rated and should have carried them home

thats the trouble, I have said and will keep on saying that OR under rules have hardly any bearing in Hunters.... they run in Hunter Chases for a reason ..... Much better to compare P2P ratings..

Koi, guess that's a question for each individual. A grand, maybe a monkey? It doesn't really matter as bookmakers don't accept bets from anyone they don't want to accept bets from particularly on low grade racing the day before! Good pick at the price anyway, I could see where you were coming from even though it didn't jump (jockey looked crap to me to be honest). Was merely making the point that when you quoted a massive 20/1 nobody would have been able to get it. Anyway, good luck and don't let the critics grind you down.

Magic__Daps 12 Jan 17 19:07
1st time loser - name all these people you claim traded out. It isn't hard is it, unless you just made it up to suit your own stalking agenda.


Still waiting

It seems when you make the thick and clueless look stupid they disappear, I cannot think why.