IR on Horses

I can't imagine anyone here will give you an answer that's of any use to you.

Those who know the answer are already making money IR and why would they want to help someone else to take a share of their winnings?

It's interesting that an article pointing out how disadvantaged you would be by playing at home should make you want to give it a go. 

That's not to say that it cannot be done, but boy is it hard to turn a profit compared to how it used to be. 

GL.

@stridingedge: Why ATR day not a good one to start?

Are Betfair Live pics more delayed on ATR courses than they are on RacingUK courses? Or is that only for tv pics?

get your mate to go the track and facetime yer...but beware the silver fox with a radiator basting the chicken,he will break your fingers

Are these on-track traders draining all the cash out of these markets?
yes, so Id go back to making pizzas if I were you goodfella

If the trackbois dont have your monies then teambot betfair will.

P-F offers some good advice.

I'm sure Delta will be along shortly to provide his thoughts.

You can use gruss and excel to create a simple bot.
But then someone will come along and copy your bot but apply it without the delay.

IR.... what can you possibly see that others cant??

If marginal seconds on pictures is the only way then whats the point??

Surely just throw yerself into the form book and do the daily grind etc..

IR has no appeal to me cos grinding out tiny profit aint fun

jonjon, it all depends on how play.

If you're backing as they're about to cross the line, then yes you've got little chance.

But not everyone plays that way.

Day 1... a loss of €145, but hopefully a few lessons learnt.

A big thanks to everyone for their insights. Fingers crossed they benefit and i don't blow my bank or get my fingers broken :D

*how you play

Whatever u play,u need a racing bank and a decision on how much profit u want to make,
as for the form book,i have seen punters confused too many times on reversal of form

Greed is the downfall of most punters

pablo-fanque 12 Dec 16 19:12 Joined: 22 Oct 14 | Topic/replies: 3,305 | Blogger: pablo-fanque's blog

regardless of you betting bank , you try and make as much as you can .

A couple of years trying this, personally, didn't turnover as much profit,
as setting a target for the day and stopping when you hit it.
Plus life is far more enjoyable, when you're not sat there looking for IR pointers in the 9:05pm at Dundalk

poppy , if I fancied one in the 9.05 at Dundalk , I would still back it regardless of what had occurred during the day profit or loss wise , as I think my profit or loss should not influence the fact that when I looked at what I will be betting on in the morning has or will change due to what I have won or loss the previous few hours .

Dear Goodfella, the in running market isn't dead. I have made a steady profit for the last four years playing Betfair Live Video (on ATR/SIS races) and RUK on Sky. I use Bet Angel but I know most of the other serious IR traders prefer Gruss. It's tough and you will have periods when you flatline or make very little profit but if you keep your discipline and learn to read a race and how and when to execute both sides of a trade you can definitely make money - in my case I make a decent living. I know other traders who have been making a steady income for the best part of ten years. I'll grant you there isn't as much liquidity as a few years back but there's still plenty of opportunities. Good luck and keep us updated with your progress. The more players and liquidity in the market the better as far as I'm concerned.

OP - make pizza's would be my advice ..