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factmachine
28 Jul 16 19:23
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I WONDER IF THE GAMBLING COMMISSION CAN BE PROSECUTED UNDER THE TRADES DESCRIPTION ACT 1968 FOR DESCRIBING THEIR ORGANISATION AS "KEEPING GAMBLING FAIR AND SAFE FOR ALL"????? WHAT PART OF FAIR APPLIES WHEN THEY LET OPERATORS TAKE BETS ON SOMETHING THEY CANT WIN ON,OR ONLINE OPERATORS THAT RESTRICT TO PENNIES OR IN MOST CASES CLOSE ACCOUNTS IF YOU WIN? THE LIST IS ENDLESS APART FROM HELPING TO PUT INDEPENDENTS OUT OF BUSINESS WHAT DO THEY DO??????
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Report roida July 28, 2016 7:24 PM BST
Shocked
Report kevinglass July 28, 2016 7:24 PM BST
I'm sure it's a nice place to work.......
Report factmachine July 28, 2016 7:28 PM BST
MONEY FOR OLD ROPE!
Report Oceanfinance July 28, 2016 7:30 PM BST
THEY ARE AWFULSad
Report foxy July 28, 2016 7:52 PM BST
And what gives them the right to demand money?
Report ima_mazed66 July 28, 2016 7:57 PM BST
They are a complete waste of time and are stealing a living in their jobs.
Report halcyon days July 28, 2016 8:31 PM BST
45K an L B O !


FFS !
Report factmachine July 29, 2016 9:53 AM BST
TOTALLY OBLIVIOUS TO REALITY,OFFERING LITTLE OR NO PROTECTION TO THE BETTING PUBLIC,UTTERLY USELESS!
Report YOMOMMA July 29, 2016 10:34 AM BST
The gambling commission are an pointless and inept regulatory body.
Report halcyon days July 29, 2016 1:08 PM BST
Good point that ''Tim'' about Independents...


the ''fixed costs'' are truly prohibitive hence, the shafting of L B O staff !  Sad
Report G1_Jockey_4 July 29, 2016 1:11 PM BST
problem with this country is organisations like this are put in place as a token gesture.
they arent the only one i assure you.

wont get better once out of the eu either....it will only get worse.
Report halcyon days July 29, 2016 1:15 PM BST
Quangos R Us !
Report G1_Jockey_4 July 29, 2016 1:17 PM BST
mp's in bookmakers pockets....has this ever happened before lol

i remember one high profile one who was on mountains books during the bookies v exchange argument.
he quickly left the payroll!!!!!!
Report G1_Jockey_4 July 29, 2016 1:18 PM BST
we may moan about the eu....but their recent isp laws showed what we will be missing.

agree that they do take time getting round to issues.

im sure in time they would have got round to the bookmakers discrimination issue.
sadly we will never see the benefit of it....
Report halcyon days July 29, 2016 1:22 PM BST
FOBT's

The Government took £547m in machine tax in 2014 @ 20% ... now 25% !!!!!!!!
Report G1_Jockey_4 July 29, 2016 1:55 PM BST
government in bookies pockets.......
Report Dr Gonzo July 29, 2016 2:39 PM BST

I'm sure it's a nice place to work.......


Their HQ is lovely.
Report factmachine July 29, 2016 7:55 PM BST
CAN THEY BE GOT RID OF????
Report factmachine July 31, 2016 9:43 AM BST
DONCASTER YESTERDAY,IT WAS A TOSS UP BETWEEN VERNON KAY AND THE GAMBLING COMMISSION TO WHO WAS THE MOST GUILTY FOR STEALING A LIVING!Shocked
Report halcyon days July 31, 2016 9:51 AM BST
Was V K impersonating no. 1 ''flimper?''
Report factmachine July 31, 2016 9:58 AM BST
THE NUMBER 1 FLIMPER BESIDES THE GC WAS AT GOODWOOD Wink
Report halcyon days July 31, 2016 10:00 AM BST
Laugh
Report halcyon days July 31, 2016 10:00 AM BST
Chester today Tim ?...
Report factmachine July 31, 2016 10:06 AM BST
YES BIGGER THAN THE MACHINE AND THE USUAL FANTASTIC SERVICE FOR THE PUNTER!Happy
Report stu July 31, 2016 10:13 AM BST
How many people are paid to work for the GC out of interest, and how much?
Report halcyon days July 31, 2016 10:21 AM BST
Based in Birmingham, salary's are decent !
Report halcyon days July 31, 2016 10:22 AM BST
There were advertising for staff fairly recently !
Report halcyon days July 31, 2016 10:23 AM BST
Tim, it don't pay to make monkey's out of the mickey mousers !
Report stu July 31, 2016 10:24 AM BST
Wonder what these employees actually do each day, when they roll into work...?
Report factmachine July 31, 2016 10:28 AM BST
I SWEAR THIS IS THE TRUTH,I RANG THE GAMBLING COMMISSION ON THURSDAY OVER THE PRICES OFFERED BY A RIVAL COMPANY,THE GC GUY ASKED ME TO EXPLAIN THE ISSUE TO WHICH I EXPLAINED THE PRICE RETURNED EVERY TIME WAS WORSE THAN SP,AND I WILL QUOTE HIS ANSWER "EXCUSE ME WHAT DOES SP MEAN"CryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCry
Report YOMOMMA July 31, 2016 10:31 AM BST
The gambling commission is filled by old biddies who spend the day knitting.
Report factmachine July 31, 2016 10:32 AM BST
NO ITS NOT THEY WOULD BE DOING SOMETHING USEFUL IF THEY WERE KNITTING!
Report stu July 31, 2016 10:35 AM BST
Grin
Report hong kong fooey July 31, 2016 1:50 PM BST
Ive been gambling for quite a while now.But i cant remember a
thing the GC has ever done. Can anyone enlighten me ?
Report halcyon days July 31, 2016 3:51 PM BST
Fined Corals, BetFred , Ladbrokes & Paddy Power for not conforming to the legislation regarding money coming from the proceeds of crime ! Corals are due a massive fine any time soon !  Cool
Report halcyon days July 31, 2016 3:52 PM BST
The bookmaker Betfred has agreed to an £800,000 settlement after accepting stolen cash from a “VIP” customer, who was allegedly offered free drinks and day trips to encourage him to keep betting.

Betfred, based in Gibraltar, was found to have failed to meet its obligations on social responsibility and the prevention of money laundering, after taking thousands of pounds from the convicted thief Matthew Stevens.

The accountant pleaded guilty to two counts of theft earlier this year, after funnelling cash out of the business he worked for in order to fund his gambling habit.

The settlement comes just a day after a BBC investigation claimed that staff at the high-street bookmaker Coral were told to offer customers perks – including drinks and free bets – to keep them betting on “crack cocaine” fixed-odds betting terminals.

The Gambling Commission said Betfred would pay more than £800,000 in “compensation and in contribution towards socially responsible causes” after a review of its licence.

Under the terms of the latest settlement, Betfred will pay £443,000 to the victims of the criminal activities. A further £344,500 will be paid to socially responsible causes, agreed with the commission.

Betfred will also meet the commission’s investigation costs and perform an independent third party review of its anti-money laundering and social responsibility policies and procedures

Stevens was jailed for three years and four months earlier this year after he was found to have plundered more than £850,000 from his firm’s accounts over a 13-month period to fuel his gambling addiction. “A significant proportion of the stolen money was spent with Betfred,” the commission said.

The case was referred to the commission over claims made in court that staff offered Stevens free bets and days out to go gambling, despite him racking up huge losses between 2013 and 2015.

Betfred confirmed that the customer was considered to be a VIP player and would have been in its top 5% of customers in terms of spend and profit, the Gambling Commission said.

Leeds crown court heard in January that Stevens siphoned more than £850,000 out of an accounting firm owned by businessman Mahmood Mahzar, who “treated him like a son”.

The court heard that Stevens “bled” the company accounts dry and covered up the theft by fabricating transactions. He continued to protest his innocence even after HMRC flagged up some £250,000 in unpaid taxes, falsifying documents to suggest that the tax authority had made a mistake.

Stevens, of Rothwell, pleaded guilty to two offences of theft from an employer.

The payout is the latest in a string of settlements with gambling firms since Sarah Harrison took over as chief executive of the Gambling Commission in October last year. Harrison, who was awarded an MBE in the Queen’s birthday honours list, has promised to crack down on firms that do not do their utmost to prevent problem gambling and money-laundering.

The regulator announced an £880,000 settlement with Coral in April, after the bookmaker took hundreds of thousands of pounds from a “VIP” problem gambler who was using the proceeds of theft to feed his habit.

Earlier this year, Paddy Power was forced to pay out £280,000 after the commission found that it had encouraged a problem gambler to keep betting until he lost five jobs, his home and access to his children.

Richard Watson, programme director at the commission, said: “We identified a number of weaknesses in the anti-money laundering and social responsibility controls used by Betfred. The penalty package of over £800,000 reflects these failures. “The commission has now concluded a wide range of cases over the last 10 months leading to around £3.75million in penalty packages.

“The outcomes and findings in these cases provide a clear signal to operators of the need to learn the lessons from these for social responsibility and money laundering controls, or risk facing tougher sanctions.”
Report factmachine July 31, 2016 8:03 PM BST
I THINK ITS THE GAMBLING COMMISSION WHO NEED A LESSON IN "SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY" DO THEY DO ANYTHING TO PROTECT THE PUNTER?? ANYTHING???
Report halcyon days July 31, 2016 8:57 PM BST
Tbf, they are clamping down on Bookmakers not informing the relevant agencies re:


The proceeds of crime !
Report factmachine August 1, 2016 9:28 AM BST
IMO ITS A CRIME WHAT THE GAMBLING COMMISSION ARE CHARGING AND THE WAY THEY ARE RUN!
Report stu August 1, 2016 9:50 AM BST
So, it seems like fundamentally the GC deal with more 'bureaucratic' issues in gambling, rather than anything that directly affects punters, would you say fair view halcyon?
Report IanP August 1, 2016 10:20 AM BST
When we had to apply for our new licenses back in 2006/7, our association set up a meeting one evening with the GC. I can't remember how it came about but I ended up giving a lift to one of the GC guys as he lived fairly close by.  Chatting in the car, it was obvious that he knew nothing about betting and his previous job was .... a milkman.  He was a nice guy and hopefully he has made career at the GC.
Report YOMOMMA August 1, 2016 10:42 AM BST
lol ian. I can believe that.
Report Janthefish August 1, 2016 10:59 AM BST
My pal asked a bookmaker's assistant at a point-to-point if she could hand the winnings (£4) to his smiling 6 year old daughter,out of the crowd stepped a GC official to give them a lecture on underage betting.
Report factmachine August 1, 2016 11:20 AM BST
IT SEEMS THE LEAST YOU KNOW ABOUT BETTING THE MORE YOUR LIKELY TO GET A JOB AT THE GC,IMO A TOTALLY USELESS ORGANISATION NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE WHO TURN A BLIND EYE TO THE REAL ABUSERS AND ISSUES IN THE GAMBLING INDUSTRY!
Report halcyon days August 1, 2016 9:37 PM BST
Stu, good evening...


an electrician robbed two 90 year old's ( married ) of £800,000 over eighteen months....


the G C made Corals pay back the money plus interest, £840, 000 !


They are due a fine in the millions imminently !


As regards, the due process of punter's gambling interests... well that's another subject !
Report halcyon days August 1, 2016 9:42 PM BST
I would imagine Chesterbet would argue there costs are higher, but, in a free market surely race goers should be able to see whom is giving the best odds ! ?...
Report factmachine August 1, 2016 10:06 PM BST
VERY TRUE HALCYON,BUT ITS NOT A "FREE MARKET" IN THE CASE OF CHESTERBET!
Report Chuckles9536 August 2, 2016 5:10 PM BST
the original post is amusing... would be interesting to see! Every bookie is at it though.

Just YouTube "Bookie Beaten Stan James"

Will be interesting to see if anything comes out of the HBF stuff. Doesn't look likely though.
Report intheknow August 2, 2016 7:19 PM BST
The GC man, an ex-milkman, said he once had a bottle on one Shocked
Report PorcupineorPineapple August 3, 2016 9:07 AM BST
I think the GC is changing and seems much more effective under the new CEO.


My big issue is dealing with the bookies who are caught. The fine has only ever amounted to their proceeds. That's not a fine and the only message that sends to others is to carry on doing it, as the worse that can happen is you'll be returned to where you were.

They should impose a fine above what they profitted with a sliding scale up, determined by amount gained, how poorly they conducted their checks and if it's a first/second/third offence etc.

They've always bargained that a public statement will hurt the PLCs due to the embarassment but they can go much further. Question is how much further they can go though. They are bound by their own regulatory codes of conduct and can't just unilaterally decide to hand someone their arse, even if they wanted to. The other solicitors would get it shut down in seconds.


As for the staff, there is a range of skills. It's not all about knowing how to settle a RTC.
Report factmachine August 3, 2016 9:46 AM BST
YES "THERE IS A RANGE OF SKILLS" MILKMAN,JOINER,PLASTERER,NURSE,I THINK THEY HAVE ALMOST EVERY TRADE WORKING FOR THEM BAR THE ONE THAT COUNTS Cry
Report factmachine August 3, 2016 9:52 AM BST
CUSTOMER=RING RING   GC= HELLO GAMBLING COMMISSION   CUSTOMER=HELLO I HAVE A COMPLAINT TO MAKE REGARDING A BOOKMAKERS OFFER ON A HORSE RACE  GC=EXCUSE ME WHATS A HORSE! LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report pixie August 3, 2016 2:51 PM BST
PorcupineorPineapple, I couldn't agree more with your post - just paying back your ill-gotten gain is hardly a deterrent. I remember the Racing Post comment on the paltry fine (I think it was Bet3.65) that they would be 'embarrassed' - yup, embarrassed all the way to the bank!
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