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Pinza
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Nicola Sturgeon back in the news and on TV!

"Nicola Sturgeon raises threat of second Scottish independence referendum after England votes for Brexit

Mirror · 4 hours ago

Nicola Sturgeon raised the threat of a second Scottish referendum after all 32 areas of Scotland voted overwhelmingly "
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Report saddo June 24, 2016 10:55 AM BST
Never mind all that, to paraphrase the old witch Thatcher, REJOICE, REJOICE, REJOICE.
Report howard June 24, 2016 11:00 AM BST
Scotland take London with you.
Report big_keef June 24, 2016 11:04 AM BST
this is a huge mistake in my opinion, I believe Scotland leaving the UK is now inevitable at some stage, maybe wales and northern Ireland will follow, the right wing parties will come to power all over Europe and this will lead to an inevitable rise in nationalism, we already live in dangerous times, and a divided UK and a divided Europe will only make it more so, it was a 48 52 per cent outcome, the racists seem to have swung the vote which is what I feared, I don't believe everybody who voted out is racist but I do believe every racist who voted would have voted out, I hope I am wrong but I see dark days ahead
Report saddo June 24, 2016 11:08 AM BST
We won't eventually have to take Russia on thank goodness, which is where it would have ended. Did you see them ultras kick our ass in France?
Report Swardean June 24, 2016 11:09 AM BST
The real tragedy was that Homes under the Hammer was moved to BBC2 this morning
Report sparrow June 24, 2016 11:11 AM BST
The Bank of England has had to promise 250 billion to calm the markets.
Report Magic__Daps June 24, 2016 11:14 AM BST
the racists seem to have swung the vote which is what I feared, I don't believe everybody who voted out is racist but I do believe every racist who voted would have voted out


Seriously? Do you think everyone who is fed up with the immigration policies are racists? I am not racist at all, but am fed up with the lot of it. If immigration was sorted out years ago, I agree the result would have been different. But to class everyone as racist is a bit short sighted and pathetic really imo.
Report howard June 24, 2016 11:14 AM BST
big keef , the 77 million  Muslim Turks will maybe have the chance to live in Glasgow and the Highlands
Report saddo June 24, 2016 11:21 AM BST
Erdogan will be in a dither now, I guess he knows it's off and will try and lever as much cash out of Angela as he can in the short term.
Report big_keef June 24, 2016 11:29 AM BST
where did I say everybody who voted out was racist magic-daps? read it again, I don't believe that everybody that has concerns about immigration is racist either, I have concerns about it myself, the point I was trying to make was that the EDL, Britain first and their ilk supporters would have overwhelmingly voted out, which may have been enough to swing the vote
Report GLASGOWCALLING June 24, 2016 11:31 AM BST
Well said daps.
Report big_keef June 24, 2016 11:35 AM BST
by the way daps, immigration to the UK from countries outside the EU was higher than the uncontrolled immigration that we could do little about, so we let more people in who we could have refused entry to
Report GLASGOWCALLING June 24, 2016 11:37 AM BST
It's called democracy keef. Are you now saying the edl and others should not have been allowed to vote?. Of course they want out.. the same as anyone in the financial sector wants in.
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Report saddo June 24, 2016 11:39 AM BST
Oi oi, Angela's on.
Report howard June 24, 2016 11:40 AM BST
If Scotland leaves the UK and stays in the EU we will need a "Berlin Wall" rather than Hadrians.
Report polab June 24, 2016 11:40 AM BST
Surely less fit birds coming from Eastern Europe is a negative.
Report Magic__Daps June 24, 2016 11:42 AM BST
Apologies was not meant to come across as that, I just don't like "the racists have swung the vote", it's as if you think there millions of racists and that made the difference. There are not, there are millions who are fed up with people born here not being listened to, treated like we cannot say or do anything (for fear of being called racists), fed up with communities being overtaken and divided by immigration but are NOT allowed to speak up (for fear of being called racists), fed up with house being given away to people who have no intention of bringing anything to the country, fed up with the freaks that can freely hold placards wanting to kill all non muslims and want sharia law, fed up with an overrun NHS, schools, employment etc etc.
Report saddo June 24, 2016 11:43 AM BST
"EU a guarantor of stability", rofl after she destabilised the lot last year.
Report diabolicalliability June 24, 2016 11:44 AM BST
on the plus side, a new bank holiday or two
Report GLASGOWCALLING June 24, 2016 11:44 AM BST
waiting to hear from that gravy trainer Kinnock. ,
Report big_keef June 24, 2016 11:45 AM BST
why is everybody making presumptions about me? I have made what I believe to be a valid point, that is all, the country has spoken and decided to leave, I am a democrat and obviously I respect the decision, and of course everybody entitled to vote should have that right, where have I said anything to say that certain people shouldn't have been allowed to vote? that is ludicrous, we have narrowly voted to leave and I accept that decision and will get on with my life in my normal fashion, for better or for worse we are out, now we have to make the best of it
Report saddo June 24, 2016 11:45 AM BST
Exit stage right. No questions .  Laugh
Report nellie1970 June 24, 2016 11:46 AM BST
the donald on now from scotlandGrin
Report Magic__Daps June 24, 2016 11:46 AM BST
You can call the EDL/BNP etc racists, and of course they have hardline racists (I doubt anyone will disagree with that), but you also have to ask why these groups are flourishing. But they are allowed to vote, and if they shouldn't be allowed iyo, then nobody on the far left should be allowed either, where is the democracy in that?
Report turncard June 24, 2016 11:49 AM BST
The EDL can't read this nor can they put an x in the box!
Report Magic__Daps June 24, 2016 11:51 AM BST
You may have a valid point there turncard!
Report ladycarla June 24, 2016 11:54 AM BST
Why does everybody think it were close, take away scotland and London and it were a landslide victory.
Report scholes121 June 24, 2016 11:55 AM BST
why on earth do all these wonderful people want to come to such a racist country?
Report big_keef June 24, 2016 11:58 AM BST
daps, I don't think the placard holding freaks wanting to kill all non muslims and who want sharia law are here as a result of us being in the EU, my guess is most of them were either born here or emigrated here from non EU countries, as I said I have concerns about immigration myself, I don't believe people should come here and go straight to the top of the waiting list for property health and welfare, I don't believe any immigrant should be able to claim any sort of benefit in this country until they have worked and lived here for at least 5 years, I don't believe one family member should be able to come here and claim child benefit and send it back to their families in their homeland, I also believe we shouldn't send winter fuel payments to pensioners living in spain for example, the government are to blame for this, they should have made emigrating to this country far less attractive than it obviously is years ago, like I say I have concerns regarding immigration also, but I do not believe we needed to leave the EU to put a lot of these problems right
Report howard June 24, 2016 11:59 AM BST
The banker's are very worried ( ...about their bonuses )
Report big_keef June 24, 2016 12:03 PM BST
daps I will state for one last time as you do not seem to have understood my posts, I believe that anybody who was entitled to vote, including members of the EDL and the BNP, have every right to vote whichever way they choose
Report nellie1970 June 24, 2016 12:06 PM BST
the only reason we have had the the referendum is because the tories never thought they would win a majority so they put a referendum in the manifesto.this would never have been in the manifesto otherwise
Report saddo June 24, 2016 12:15 PM BST
Not sure, but I think it was more selfish than that, nellie. I thought dave offered the referendum to gain another term as party leader.
Report big_keef June 24, 2016 12:24 PM BST
I think Nellie and saddo make valid points, this was offered so the tories could gain a majority and Cameron remain leader, I do not believe we should have been offered the referendum so soon, we should have tried to fix a lot of the problems that we have with the EU before offering the vote, if after trying to fix these problems and addressing the concerns people rightly have regarding immigration etc the electorate still wanted out, then fair enough, but I think we should have at least have tried to solve the problems first
Report chavman June 24, 2016 12:33 PM BST
Firstly the Russian ultras were military personnel backed by Putin to boost flagging public opinion of his regime.
Secondly if the Scottish so want independence give it to them on the proviso that is what it is.no bailout.
Report GLASGOWCALLING June 24, 2016 12:43 PM BST
.. not sure the bum bags were military issue chav.?
Report milo222 June 24, 2016 12:48 PM BST
184,000 eu migrants according to official figures last year.
1.5 Million in the last 10 years
It simply cannot go on.
This is not racism, it's simple mathematics

Add the £350M PER WEEK and it's no brainer
£350M P/W x 104 weeks.
You do the math!
Report chavman June 24, 2016 12:51 PM BST
Jogging through the square like a military unit.go pro camera jogging for 3 minutes without losing breath.obligatory bum bags and beanie hats.

Typical football hooligan.yeh right
Report chavman June 24, 2016 12:54 PM BST
State sponsored military aggression more like under the guise of football hooliganism
Report chavman June 24, 2016 12:56 PM BST
Telling they never took on a firm of English who would have stood
Report GLASGOWCALLING June 24, 2016 12:58 PM BST
Chav, they were my first thoughts when I saw the footage( and still are). Just think the bum bags were a no no.
Report chavman June 24, 2016 1:00 PM BST
Try and tell me the proper ones out there wouldn't have got together.but they never went looking for them did they?
Report big_keef June 24, 2016 1:02 PM BST
I don't remember the exact figure, but the number of non EU immigrants into this country was over 200,000, and that was so called controlled immigration, I had an experience about 10 years ago when I went to see a cardiologist consultant, I could hardly understand a word he was saying and I had to keep asking him to repeat himself, he must of thought I was taking the mick, because he shouted at me to leave the room, in retrospect I should have complained, I am not a racist and genuinely did not understand what he was saying in general, he was Asian, so non EU I would imagine, I can understand why people have got angry and like I have said before governments have had plenty of time to address these issues, I believe a man in his position should be able to speak fluently the language of the country he is living and working in, and being very well paid for I would imagine
Report chavman June 24, 2016 1:03 PM BST
All the boys who could have it would have got together after the first night.them Russians picked their time and innocents with military precision
Report TheBaron June 24, 2016 1:07 PM BST
The Russians had prepared for this like a Para military force.  Their hooligans are a different breed not there to get pissed up have a laugh and maybe a fight.

While not officially sanctioned they do seem a source of national pride.
Report chavman June 24, 2016 1:11 PM BST
I'm sure if all the English were to put up there best we would stand and have it with them 1.01
Report big_keef June 24, 2016 1:11 PM BST
I believe I read a comment from either a Russian politician or a member of their football association actually praising the actions of the Russian fans, if that what they were
Report chavman June 24, 2016 1:12 PM BST
No room for fancy karate kicks then
Report TheBaron June 24, 2016 1:14 PM BST
Its a warning about the Russian mentality under Putin....more trouble down the line from Russian and not just hooligans.
Report chavman June 24, 2016 1:20 PM BST
Indeed Putin wrestling bears will be next
Report howard June 24, 2016 1:24 PM BST
The trouble is the US. They want the bloc to follow their orders.
Report tim6 June 24, 2016 1:26 PM BST
FFS you go off to the euros for a few days and leave the scots in charge and this is what happens.
Report moondan June 24, 2016 1:28 PM BST
Slippery Dave and Slimey George are history and the air is a little cleaner but the Turkey's in both party's are gathering, England requires another important happening and Christmas should be called early to execute the lot before another month is done.
Report chavman June 24, 2016 1:30 PM BST
It's called eid and its next week
Report saddo June 24, 2016 1:34 PM BST
Wizo on the news, look out for grimmy.
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