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Graham Lee. Personally i think he is one of the worst flat jockeys riding. How can a jockey like him be so wrong about pace
either he is ****, or he is bent, i would like to think he is ****. Just watch his ride on Sunraider in the 7.35 Carlisle 23rd May 2016
and tell me if given a a better ride that horse could not of won. Come on lets be real, that was bad.,or bent,
no way there is another reason.
either he is ****, or he is bent, i would like to think he is ****. Just watch his ride on Sunraider in the 7.35 Carlisle 23rd May 2016
and tell me if given a a better ride that horse could not of won. Come on lets be real, that was bad.,or bent,
no way there is another reason.
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Just watched the video he looked weak and clueless in that race,being kind to him.
He frequently looks weak, and clueless and he's frequently in the wrong place.
He can ride winners, he has plenty of ability so I'd definitely lean towards the b**t theory. Been ongoing for a while, too.
He can ride winners, he has plenty of ability so I'd definitely lean towards the b**t theory. Been ongoing for a while, too.
Come on YES! I'AM SPEAKING OUT OF MY POCKET! in my view. Disgrace ive had a good e/w bet and that prick did **** it up
that horse should of been in the first three. I would NOT GIVE HIM A RIDE! IF I WAS A HONEST TRAINER!.
that horse should of been in the first three. I would NOT GIVE HIM A RIDE! IF I WAS A HONEST TRAINER!.
I do realy want to speak to him. And if he has any balls he will speak to me or meet me the little rat,
Because he knows im right.
Because he knows im right.
if he has any balls he will speak to me or meet me the little rat. 
Perhaps you could even beat the 8st chap up too?
Perhaps you could even beat the 8st chap up too?
HA ha what makes you think im not eight stone myself i might be 6 stone but weight is not the issue. bell end it's about jockeys not being on the ball not taking a gap when one is there not giving a 110%, personally, i dont think he tried to obtain the best possible finish he could off.
is that ok with you knobhead Kenbo.
is that ok with you knobhead Kenbo.
You've got all the hallmarks of a forum legend in the making. You should post more.
He did alright for me on Amberliegh House!! Mind you, I think that was the last time I found the winner in that race!
Listen mate ive worked all over the world in the industry, lived in Gib, worked on the rails for the big firms on track, worked as an odds compiler,
worked as a tipster for the racingpost. So don't. Because i know more than you will ever know, ABOUT BETTING! and horse racing.
worked as a tipster for the racingpost. So don't. Because i know more than you will ever know, ABOUT BETTING! and horse racing.
Graham Lee certainly brings out the best in people LaughLaughLaugh
25 posts in 13 years, where have you been or who are you ? 
Thanks lads and lasses, but wake up and buy some glasses, i only say it how it is/ if im not a regular blogger does that make my
opinion not worthy. Ha Ha the reason i don't do this is because i have a life. oopps so sorry, but Graham FIDDLING **** has just phoned
let you know in a bit, of why he pulled Sunraider.
opinion not worthy. Ha Ha the reason i don't do this is because i have a life. oopps so sorry, but Graham FIDDLING **** has just phoned
let you know in a bit, of why he pulled Sunraider.
You must be really gauled by the last result, forum curse strikes again.
I backed Sunraider myself, ran as he normly does, got outpaced in what looked a fast run race and stayed on strongly up the hill, unlucky not to get 3rd but didn't see anything untoward. Think if he wasn't trying would have dropped his hands and coasted home towards the rear, and that's my honest opinion sorry Dan.
I backed Sunraider myself, ran as he normly does, got outpaced in what looked a fast run race and stayed on strongly up the hill, unlucky not to get 3rd but didn't see anything untoward. Think if he wasn't trying would have dropped his hands and coasted home towards the rear, and that's my honest opinion sorry Dan.
Yep ok i will have your view. which is logicall but what i hate is a jockey who at the start of a race is not
trying to get the best possible position to win the race. Ie because the m oney isn't dowm or just going through the motions.
I swear you watch how well hcp that horse is ,it is a joke i could win on it.And then WIN THE BUNBURY CUP.
trying to get the best possible position to win the race. Ie because the m oney isn't dowm or just going through the motions.
I swear you watch how well hcp that horse is ,it is a joke i could win on it.And then WIN THE BUNBURY CUP.
I reckon if we bought up all the Graham Lee threads from the last two years they would fill the first three pages of the Horse racing forum 
I really do hope that in some way this message does get through to him, by his agent,the family, who ever. But i feel the more this is
highlighted, the less it will happen. Yes sometimes we may be a bit unjust, and yes we may be speaking in haste or through our pocket.
but unless we as punters say it how it is, we will never be heard.
highlighted, the less it will happen. Yes sometimes we may be a bit unjust, and yes we may be speaking in haste or through our pocket.
but unless we as punters say it how it is, we will never be heard.
Hello come on s.Kenbo. what have yoyu got to say. you know everything, don't you?.
Neither for or against him I avoid his mounts. Like J Spencer impossible to predict. Stay away from both jockeys and don't lay them either would be my advice. But then again who can be trusted jockey wise these days ???
Listen! it may be a while before i post again 25 posts in 13 years, once i start i can't shut up. but instead of pulling one another
up as punters. lets start highlighting the jockeys who are pulling horses, left right and center.( We know the jockeys know,) and the trainers
know nothing! ha ha ha ha ha. But be real say it how it is./
up as punters. lets start highlighting the jockeys who are pulling horses, left right and center.( We know the jockeys know,) and the trainers
know nothing! ha ha ha ha ha. But be real say it how it is./
Sorry but pumphol. who the **** are you? probably someone who has not got a life, someone who is a tit, and knows nothing about gambling,
or being a punter who does it for a living. So serious mate give up.
or being a punter who does it for a living. So serious mate give up.
Are you a fat chick, no offence i like fat birds. Pumphol . im thinkin the last time you got a good pumping
was when you was on holiday . And thats why you call yourself pumphol. A SOUNDS COOL TO ME whatever pumper.
was when you was on holiday . And thats why you call yourself pumphol. A SOUNDS COOL TO ME whatever pumper.
Wouldn't the user name have to be plump ho to be a fat chick?
IMA has entered the building 
,dermot brownes former agent
,dermot brownes former agent
I'm not quite sure why a long retired jockey and ex-trainer later turned self-confessed horse doper would require an agent a bitofinterest but I'm sure it must make sense to you in your world.
He must have retired from riding something close to 30 years ago too, just for good measure!
He must have retired from riding something close to 30 years ago too, just for good measure!
A class rant to be fair.
I'd add that (watching that race with no bet myself), can see why the OP was enraged, however I don't personally see that as a bnt one - he was riding it along trying from an early stage, so no pull there for me. Other rides of his of course could be different....
I'd add that (watching that race with no bet myself), can see why the OP was enraged, however I don't personally see that as a bnt one - he was riding it along trying from an early stage, so no pull there for me. Other rides of his of course could be different....
..and losing ground is one of his weaknesses too in general, though that's just being poor as a rider...
I think we may have a new 10 entry when Roida post his list.
Lost a bundle, p1ssed, we may not see DAN for a while.
Having said that he could be a good acquisition to the forum, make for some fun reading during a lull in proceedings.
Having said that he could be a good acquisition to the forum, make for some fun reading during a lull in proceedings.
at least we can now probably trace the decline of the Racing Post to that fateful day he departed
Ha Ha, Nice one. No im still here just needed to have my rant as you say. But in fairness ive watched the race over again and it is poor timing i think, which is a bad ride. yep i was was speaking out of my pocket. Some of you may say i was speaking out of my arse. ha ha which i don't blame you.
you should never drown your sorrows with piss heads. and then try to have a typing conversation. i can't type or spell at the best of times. But sunraider will win soon, it's so well hcp so keep it on yourside cheers.
you should never drown your sorrows with piss heads. and then try to have a typing conversation. i can't type or spell at the best of times. But sunraider will win soon, it's so well hcp so keep it on yourside cheers.
Have felt a few of his rides to be smelly especially when the drift comes on a short one,so best to steer clear.
I think he is as capable as any when he wants it but like someone else mentioned a lot of g lee posts to look back on.
I think he is as capable as any when he wants it but like someone else mentioned a lot of g lee posts to look back on.
They didn't seem particularly well draw and it just looked to me like the horse couldn't go the early pace and was being niggled or ridden along almost from start to finish and then stayed on passed beaten horses when doing its best work at the finish.
Sunraideer - was trying it ballcocks of.
Running at it's favourite track - with similarly stiff Pontefract a close second - having Won THIS race previously, too.
That is it's running style - whether by inability to lie up early, or by design - and then come with a strong late run.
Has run like that countless times - same as yesterday ...
Sunraider, who won this race two years ago off 2lb higher, was being niggled along at the back of the field from an early stage, but he began to make up ground approaching the final furlong and finished strongly. An uphill finish has always aided his cause.
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Now - all we need to know is ....
Who is this poster DANR - who, "has been a RACING POST TIPSTER." ?
Running at it's favourite track - with similarly stiff Pontefract a close second - having Won THIS race previously, too.
That is it's running style - whether by inability to lie up early, or by design - and then come with a strong late run.
Has run like that countless times - same as yesterday ...
Sunraider, who won this race two years ago off 2lb higher, was being niggled along at the back of the field from an early stage, but he began to make up ground approaching the final furlong and finished strongly. An uphill finish has always aided his cause.
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Now - all we need to know is ....
Who is this poster DANR - who, "has been a RACING POST TIPSTER." ?
Other than for the inquisitive, it really is of no relevance, his posting displayed all the traits that tell us what we need to know about him, large ego and little ability.
I like a rant but it makes me laugh when people in the biz all think they are better at the game than punters. Naps table would prove otherwise.
Ha HA Onlooker as i have said i have worked in the industry, but i don't any longer,i have worked on the tracks for diffrent firms. i have worked for
Stan in Gibraltor and i did have a spell as a tipster but all of these experiences. mean nothing. I like you and every one else who bets, are trying to make money out of the game. yep you are right about Sunraider , but so am i, it should of been in the first 3 , but **** happens So don't be thinkin your the dogs bollocks mate. there are other people out there who know the game and just crack on with it. and by the way i got sacked by all them firms for not being one of them. best of luck mate.
Stan in Gibraltor and i did have a spell as a tipster but all of these experiences. mean nothing. I like you and every one else who bets, are trying to make money out of the game. yep you are right about Sunraider , but so am i, it should of been in the first 3 , but **** happens So don't be thinkin your the dogs bollocks mate. there are other people out there who know the game and just crack on with it. and by the way i got sacked by all them firms for not being one of them. best of luck mate.
DANR ive posted on here before do not back graham lee , doesn't matter what hes on do not back
Mentioned this thread to the trainer whilst discussing other matters this morning.
Reply back word for word 'Sunraider would get his own grandmother into trouble. Drawn wide meant potential disaster straightaway and then was behind the bridle from the off. Two out with nothing happening Graham was about to put his stick down at which point the horse decided to take off and finished like a train'.
Not offering any kind of opinion myself as I am abroad and haven't seen the race, but there you have the trainer's comments on the matter.
Reply back word for word 'Sunraider would get his own grandmother into trouble. Drawn wide meant potential disaster straightaway and then was behind the bridle from the off. Two out with nothing happening Graham was about to put his stick down at which point the horse decided to take off and finished like a train'.
Not offering any kind of opinion myself as I am abroad and haven't seen the race, but there you have the trainer's comments on the matter.
Nice one PBT I can have that.Looking Forward to it's next run. thanks.
Dropped into a C5 tonight DANR, and ridden by G Lee!
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