Bet Placers - year 5

What is the holiday entitlement?

Intrigues me this?
Just how much do you get / expect to get on pre 10am?

In my experience, shops nowadays are just an extension of the online sites..........don't want to know early on, and once known you've very little chance of £50+

Can get on plenty enough b4 10am. I'm looking for maybe 1000-1500 for myself plus whatever the placers do 4 themselves. That is in total divided amongst the placers. The period is October to end April.

I'm interested but could you tell me a little more about the pension scheme and if this position also includes private health cover and /or gym membership? I'm sorry but I can't accept luncheon vouchers. Not sure if that's a deal-breaker or not.

ttt - and idiots like JM, RTB need not apply.

Count me  in I could do with getting back into the Arbing game.

I can vouch for the OP, as have done it for the last 2 seasons.

That's contradicting everything you've ever said on here about not be able to get a bet on. ^^^^

As one account holder you obviously cannot if you make a profit or beat SP, everyone knows that kenbo. Since October lost 21 to either closure, or restricted to buttons, therefore unusable.

Online (with High St bookies) may be difficult. But you're obviously getting lumpy bets on in shop (several probably) if you're putting on for someone else and then backing it yourself too.

Mine are online only, plus I put other stuff through accounts to help them along, but I have lost 21 this season.

racingguru, why jumps and no flat?

Because I specialise in jumps and have developed ratings for jumps (only chasers) that seem to work very well. Also its a lot of work so don't want to spread myself thin. Its Oct - End of April only - no summer jumps either - I have get my golf game better in the summer  - perks of the job I guess.

Ah, in other words you want half the year free to play golf and piss away all the profits!

ttt

ttt - and idiots like JM, RTB need not apply.

Just to clarify, am I a definite no?

It's like the job centre in here.. homeless and jobless looking for something to help them on their way

rob, it's nothing to do with your reply on this thread that you won't be considered , it's to do with your association with Zodiac

But, but...ZODIE's got the game by the bollox...

ttt

Would I have to declare any income for tax purposes, seeing as it's derived from your instructions?

Sorry RTB - I forgot to add prerequisite is an IQ>70 so that will rule you out.

racing....whos shops do u use most often

I never step into a shop but the placers use all the main ones but generally no independants. Fred, Lad, PP & Corals would be the main ones - Hills have prices later on the whole.

Thanks for the hilarious reply, racingguru. 

In the interests of openness, how morally and legally legitimate is the circumventing of bookie limits in this way?  If the bookie knows that you are using a team of placers, do they have the right to void any bets and could the placers be at risk of getting caught up in any subsequent money laundering investigation?  I'm not accusing you of laundering money, just wondering if it was a logical step for any of the authorities to investigate this, given the nature of what you're doing?

Have you got a working knowledge of bookies?  i.e. have you worked for any of the major firms before and, if so, which one(s)?

I'm sure that these are questions that potential recruits would be keen to have answered.

INBOX

I'll vouch for the original poster. Having joined the team last year I can confirm he does exactly what he claims and is 100% straight forward and honourable. He funds in advance all his own betting activity. It's all his own hard work ratings based. and really is a proper example of how hard work pays off. I've done very well from betting during the last jumps season.

It's an excellent opportunity for anyone who has the time available and is close to a decent spread of shops that open at 8.30am or before.

Thats all I have to say and will not be drawn into any further discussion. It's a genuine opportunity. if anyone is interested PM the OP.

^ cheers Guru

you pick races 6 or less runners

get 60 subscribers

60 divide by 6

10 show a profit

xmoneyx - I have 6 placers you plum! Don't u think they'd be 50 annoyed people slagging me down if I were doing what you suggest and for you information big field chases are my forte - I don't even like small fields. Further one of the guys from here has been on 4 years, 2 at 2 years and the rest for 1 year - how does that work? I know for the many horse racing is an impossible game to beat but it is very easy especially at early odds. Just accept the fact that some people are good at it and let it be. For me I can't see how its possible that anyone makes money at footie but I know people who do - it doesn't mean they are scammers trying to sell tips to the masses.

If the bookies took my bets in full or if this place had good liquidity early morning I wouldn't need anyone but unfortunately I live in the real world and have to do my best to get round the restrictions there are in the system to optimise the advantage I have - its very simple. So if you don't have anything constructive to say or a comment that takes more than 1 brain cell to develop then I would keep it shut.

Further if no one wants to do it, its not the end of the world to me. I have 6 placers(that all want to stay on)and I'll just get more online accs or accept that my income is going to plateau at a very decent level but I like most people don't want to work forever and if I can expand my income then I'll try.

ttt - last time

i am interested in your post for placers i am retired with plenty of time
  and lots of betting shops where i live in wales please get in touch asp
     many thanks EBIN

beware new forum joiners = NAPPAGE

6 placers at the moment I presume that means each one is putting on about £200 plus their own, is that correct ?.

EBIN a plant from the books imo................................

I've got his number 11kv ....

wales was the step too far there ...

ttt

In the interests of openness, how morally and legally legitimate is the circumventing of bookie limits in this way?  If the bookie knows that you are using a team of placers, do they have the right to void any bets and could the placers be at risk of getting caught up in any subsequent money laundering investigation?  I'm not accusing you of laundering money, just wondering if it was a logical step for any of the authorities to investigate this, given the nature of what you're doing?

Have you got a working knowledge of bookies?  i.e. have you worked for any of the major firms before and, if so, which one(s)?

I'm sure that these are questions that potential recruits would be keen to have answered.

RTB - neither is fair but all part of the game.

the game is not fair RTB - bookies play unfair so we all have to adjust. Every bet we do if phoned through in mornings so its their choice whether they choose to take it or not.

pm there racing guru

quite a catch...well done racingguru

I didn't think that you'd answer any of my questions, so well done for providing half an answer to one of them.  You've exceeded my expectations.

Rob the bantam = another seething bookie what's illegal about sending my mate to put a bet on? answer NOTHING ring the police be my guest hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaahaha I tell u what tell me where you work and i'll come and put some business your way fk up yer Christmas bonus for ya! question - is it legally/morally right for licenced bookmakers to knock back business when it's offered? you'll say we can take or refuse bets as we please well guess what so can we

RTB - I have a code of honour having been an ex Indie - I don't bet in one man band Ops. But I lose no sleep in fleecing the big high st firms - if that helps you.

I'd love to see that one go to court.

"Sorry your majesty. I could only get £25 on myself these days so I have a team of runners who get on what I want because on the imposed limits by the said firms."

Reply...

"WELL THAT'S ILLEGAL.... THAT's MONEY LAUNDERING.... NO BAIL, YOU CAN HAVE 25 YEARS IN STRANGEWAYS SO YOU CAN REFLECT ON YOUR CRIMES"

its not worth getting banged up for, don't do it

8am-10am availability required and early opening shops - pm me if you have these and we can make each other loads.

Some idiots on here pretending it is dubious. Anyone who thinks it is gainful employment wont be facing an argument from the police.

I think what the OP needs to do, though, is state how much below the limit he wants on in each shop, since there has to be some left for the placer at the price.

I'm never going to get my full bet on at best price. I accept that. Further we are dealing with very high margins - lets just say 25%+ for arguments sake - last few years have been way higher.

Now if I ask a placer for 200 @ 6/1 and he gets me 120 @ 6/1 and 80 @ 11/2 - i'm not gonna complain or argue the toss. What he gets on for himself at what price I never ask or question. I just ask for the placer not to be betting a size that ruins it for all the team. They will make a very good income betting 1/5 my stakes.

ttt

Would the placers be liable to pay tax on any winnings, given that it's effectively agency work?  What happens if the bookie decides to void bets as it know it's being clobbered by a syndicate?  How do placers know you're not laundering cash through them?

Well the existing placers would think I'm the luckiest launderer in the world. Frankly RTB you're an idiot but useful in that u bring my thread to the top.

racingguru there are many in this society that hate the fact that there are people can earn money from betting. They see Horse Racing betting as at best a recreational hobby but mostly as a platform to pi ss away money on a mugs game. Whilst if they had the intelligence,dedication,hard work,judgement,discipline and mental strength to do the same they would too

This is the only section of all society where you are punished for being good at something and discouraged from fulfilling your potential

Strange world we live in where ignorance and jealousy are rife
Keep up the good work and all the best with your endeavours

Truth is most think if you win you're lucky
If you lose you're a mug
And if you consistently win they're jealous and try to knock you

Rob_The_Bantam 29 May 16 23:30
Would the placers be liable to pay tax on any winnings, given that it's effectively agency work?  What happens if the bookie decides to void bets as it know it's being clobbered by a syndicate?  How do placers know you're not laundering cash through them?


Rob - It seems you are on a constant fishing expedition on here, you obviously are not stupid so why the need?

Why would any placers be liable to pay tax? They would only effectively be agency workers if they were getting paid wouldn't they? Over the years, I have placed hundreds of bets for mates when they have been busy, and they have done the same for me - shall we all contact HMRC about this as we have obviously been laundering money in your mind?

I can get involved in this if you're still looking mate.

OL - PM me and we can go from there though I think 1 or possibly 2 of the people I need now.

I am just wondering what betting shops allow £120 on a 6/1 chance before midday?? The only ones that i have ever come across that does in the 25 mile radius of my house are will hill and thats mainly because they have the least amount of early prices so i very rarely use them. I can see how i could get £25 or £50 on but more than that and i would be amazed!!!

Not disputing what u say at all but thats me speaking from actual experience. And most of the early opening shops round here (coral) have now stopped opening until 9 or 10.

Good luck with the venture though.

I don't even go into shops - my placers get on is all I can say - yes they split up their bets but plenty of their bets are close to 1k liability. I do prefer people who live in cities - in small towns a couple of placers have experienced difficulties.

Racingguru,

You got any runners or should I say, a runner in Leeds city centre at all ?

West Yorkshire is my turf.

Leeds would interest me. PM me.

I've no chance... I can't get anything on these days in Leeds !!  I was only asking as there is a runner for someone in and around town, and just wondered if he worked for you, thats all :-)

Racing guru would you be interested in someone based in Belfast?

bigal - yes if you have a decent selection of shops open at 8 - 8:30 with a variety of early morning odds. Be good as u deal in the pound too. PM me if you are available 8-10am and have the shops and early prices.