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Benatom
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The results section now throws me into timeform ? Anyone know where I can access place SP's  ?

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By:
stridingedge
When: 19 Apr 16 11:18
The place sp's are in that results section for any given race?
By:
onlooker
When: 19 Apr 16 11:40
There was another thread, last night - if you had looked further down the listings.

He, presumably, refers to this scenario...
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Help needed / new results page

carrot1960 18 Apr 16 20:58 

Any one know where the place returns are

sparrow 18 Apr 16 21:09 
I don't know about a new page but the returns are still on the Timeform page.

onlooker 18 Apr 16 21:11 
You expect EVERYTHING?

Even if they have made the page ...

T W I C E  A S  B  I  G Cry
onlooker 18 Apr 16 21:20  ]

sparrow - ANNOUNCEMENT - at the TOP of the Forum

Topic     Created by     Posts     Date/time

Timeform Content
    Betfair Customer Services     1     18 Apr 16 13:04

Betfair Customer Services [/b ] 18 Apr 16 13:04

The form.horseracing.betfair.com and form.timeform.betfair.com sites [b]will be retired in the upcoming weeks
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The OP means these RESULTS pages...

https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/result/windsor/2016-04-18/0620/57/4

Pos (Draw)     Btn     Horse Name         TFR         Tfig     Jockey     Age     Wgt     ISP     BSP     Hi/Lo
Trainer     (Equip)     (OR)

1 (5)         ENGLISHMAN     <   
premium content
       
premium content
    Franny Norton     6     9-2     7/1     9.6     20/-
By:
Benatom
When: 19 Apr 16 11:41
Used to be ... not now Win SP, Industry SP .. place SP has gone. As of yesterday .. it seems.
By:
stridingedge
When: 19 Apr 16 11:44
horseracing
timeform cards and results
cards and results
then just find what race or meet you want (if you want all races on 1 page)

???
By:
Benatom
When: 19 Apr 16 11:44
So they have just been ditched ? Can't be right can it ?
By:
stridingedge
When: 19 Apr 16 11:45
place sp's are still where i have suggested
By:
Benatom
When: 19 Apr 16 11:52
Do you subscribe to timeform ?

I don't ... and the place SP element has been removed in the change of format
By:
stridingedge
When: 19 Apr 16 11:54
No i don't subscribe

i can still access the place sp's Shocked
By:
stridingedge
When: 19 Apr 16 11:55
Pos
(Draw)
Dist    Horse    Age    Wgt
(OR)
Eq    Jockey
Trainer
In-play
High/Low
BSP/ISP
(+/-)
Place
1
(2)
Fastnet Spin (IRE)    2    9
-    Cathy Gannon
David Evans
55 / -
5.41 / 5
(5%)
2.36
2
(1)
1¼    Zig Zag Girl    2    8-10
-    Charles Bishop
Mick Channon
- / 1.35
3.27 / 3
(8%)
1.92
3
(6)
nk    Ocean Temptress    2    8-11
-    Danny Brock (3)
John Ryan
- / 2.2
7.31 / 6
(20%)
3.74
4
(4)
6    Crystal Secret    2    8-10
-    William Carson
John Bridger
- / 12
20.09 / 15
(30%)
8.62
5
(5)
1    She's Rosanna    2    8-10
-    Adam Beschizza
Steph Hollinshead
- / 10
10.86 / 8.5
(25%)
4.4
6
(3)
½    To Have A Dream (IRE)    2    8-10
-    Martin Dwyer
J. S. Moore
- / 2.86
4.3 / 3.5
(25%)
2.18
By:
Benatom
When: 19 Apr 16 11:57
Aha, if you access results whilst looking at a specific race the only results are the timeform ones , that exclude place SP's. Accessing results through the front page of the horse racing section means you can still access in 'old' style.

Onwards
By:
madhatters
When: 19 Apr 16 12:16
You can't access now from individual race markets
You have to go back to the front "Horse racing" page/tab
By:
Benatom
When: 19 Apr 16 13:08
Timeform been in touch , place SP has been added under win SP ( in brackets ). They have thanked me for my feedback. I thank them for the speed of response and action.
By:
madhatters
When: 19 Apr 16 13:10
WD Tom
By:
Deltâ
When: 19 Apr 16 14:18
y do they need someone to tell THEM ...
By:
onlooker
When: 19 Apr 16 14:26
Excellent point - Deltâ

But, that is the same with all of them - Betfair, RacingPost - the lot.

It is because sites are designed by 'NON- Horse Racing geeks' - who want to present the site as THEY WANT it presented, and not as the CONSUMER both wants and NEEDS it presented.

The Geeks do not understand Horse Racing, and, therefore, do NOT UNDERSTAND the end-user/consumer mindset, either.

But - Hey - the B I G G E R and BRIGHTER we can make the sites - with as many ICONS that we can  - mostly unnecessarily - fit in, the better it looks ........... (But ONLY) to THEM. Cry
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