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We need 5 to sign in on this link - then we go live: I have targetted an MP who is likely to support this. Please confirm your actions.
Click this link to sign the petition:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/126319/sponsors/jTQaz3xBgrDkXvYCVxCi

My petition:

Make UK licensed bookmakers accept bets up to a minimum liability of £1000

It has become a common practice for bookmakers within the UK and those that operate in the UK to restrict or close the account of customers and / or to exempt some customers from participating in advertised promotions or enhanced offers. These widespread practises are unfair and discriminate.

Special Terms should continue to be allowed to apply to enhanced offers and advertised promotions which may limit bet size but changes must be made for all customers to be able to participate , without exclusion or discrimination. New South Wales, Australia has recognised these inequities and has legislated to introduced the type of regulation we ask for in this petition.
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Report peaz April 1, 2016 1:28 PM BST
Signed
Report RyanWe April 1, 2016 1:36 PM BST
Signed.
Report go-all-in April 1, 2016 1:43 PM BST
More than happy to sign it, but it may be worth pointing out that a similar petition was started by somebody else this week, not sure if it's worth just using/spreading that one..?
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125456
Report RyanWe April 1, 2016 1:49 PM BST
Sign them all, what have we got to lose.
Report aimforspain April 1, 2016 1:52 PM BST
Done it.
Report Fangsy April 1, 2016 1:58 PM BST
Signed
Report lmfao April 1, 2016 2:07 PM BST
Your petition is nearly ready to go.

Eddie Bennett supported your petition – “Make UK licensed bookmakers accept bets up to a minimum liability of £1000”.

9 people have supported your petition so far. We’re checking your petition to make sure it meets the petition standards. If it does, we’ll publish it. This usually takes a week or less.

Find out how we check petitions before we publish them:
https://petition.parliament.uk/help#standards

Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament
Report lmfao April 1, 2016 2:10 PM BST
thanks guys- i saw the other petition after starting this - imo it's flawed- but absolutely no probs with supporting both

out for an afternoon in the sunshine Cool
Report Lee Ho Fooks April 1, 2016 2:11 PM BST
Signed & good luck. I've spent my life listening to people saying what can't be done.
Report zipper April 1, 2016 2:19 PM BST
good luck.. but the big 4 have a lot of friendsWinkWink in goverment
Report Lee Ho Fooks April 1, 2016 2:25 PM BST
^^^ see what I meanLaugh
Report tomhunt April 1, 2016 2:27 PM BST
done
Report Magic__Daps April 1, 2016 2:36 PM BST
Signed
Report Johnny_Mustang April 1, 2016 2:37 PM BST
Dreamers. Not a chance this will happen but good luck nevertheless.
Report jollie April 1, 2016 2:55 PM BST
agree with johnny , would be great but  must be a pipe dream


would be amazed if they accepted to £100 liability !!!!



signed
Report TRD.Racing April 1, 2016 4:44 PM BST
They said it would never get off the ground in Australia,they were wrong
Report poorpup April 1, 2016 4:52 PM BST
big mart gets grand bets on with ppShocked
Report PeteTheBloke April 1, 2016 6:23 PM BST
signed
Report kevinglass April 1, 2016 7:37 PM BST
Signed. A great effort to do this, well done.

You just need plenty of awareness of the petition.....so we should all spread the word.
Report lmfao April 1, 2016 11:05 PM BST
We published the petition you created – “Make UK licensed bookmakers accept bets up to a minimum liability of £1000”

Click this link to see your petition and start sharing it:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/126319

Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament

Guys and girls - please click on this link - input your e-mail address - they immediately send you an e-mail - you click on that and hey presto your vote is registered

Then: if everyone will please spread the word- everyone get at least 5 more people to sign - and ask each of those 5 to sign up 5 more- we'll get a quick growth of numbers.

lets see just how far and fast  the pyramid can grow :)

Thanks in advance.Cool
Report saddo April 1, 2016 11:25 PM BST
Signed.
Report pilgrim pete April 2, 2016 12:52 AM BST
Signed :)
Report Eeternaloptimist April 2, 2016 1:16 AM BST
Signed.
Report stevo1 April 2, 2016 1:37 AM BST
Signed
Report Aviboyd April 2, 2016 8:08 AM BST
FFS - Neither petition mentions restrictions on shop customers.  Although I admire the intent someone who has a clue about the issues and the process of petition needs to take control of this.  If by some absolute miracle enough signatures are obtained on either of the current petitions will the government respond to the discrimination and sharp practices rife in shops nationwide or not?
Report lcredd April 2, 2016 9:05 AM BST
signed.
Report Magic__Daps April 2, 2016 9:23 AM BST
How the mighty have fallen - a new lads account, one bet on cause of causes at Chelt and one bet on one that shortened yesterday (well beat) and today a max £2.18 on a 8/1 shot (available at same price with a few). You are not even allowed to lose anymore, how the hell can they know that the account will be a long term loser to them after 2 bets? It has got so ridiculous now, it's laughable.

As much as I think this will be very hard to get anywhere, I would love to see some serious momentum and maybe someone in the press take it up...
Report handtorofe April 2, 2016 9:30 AM BST
Done
Report lmfao April 2, 2016 10:29 AM BST
Aviboyd- this includes shops and online.....

If shops are the problem for you -please sign the petition m8
thanks
Report Aviboyd April 2, 2016 11:26 AM BST
lmfao - apologies, it seems I'm being a doughnut - please could you post a link to the petition brief as I can't find any mention of shop customers where I am looking.  Thanks and hope you manage the impossible and get enough signatures.
Report Trident April 2, 2016 11:42 AM BST
Signed. We must share this far and wide to expect change. Social media is the key.Once the ball starts rolling there will be no stopping.
Report lmfao April 2, 2016 12:08 PM BST
Avi - the title of the petition-

Make UK licensed bookmakers accept bets up to a minimum liability of £1000

There is no distinction between shops and online - both are included.

When posting up a petition I found there are strict limitations on the number of letters- this to encourage brevity- and it is not possible to expand the argument/ case being made  either in the title of the petition or the 'more details ' section- the idea is - get support in principle and sort out the details in debate at a later stage.

If you can support this please copy/click on the link in the original post- and spread the word :

here it is again:

Click this link to sign the petition:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/126319/sponsors/jTQaz3xBgrDkXvYCVxCi
Report lmfao April 2, 2016 12:16 PM BST
Magic- I've had a skybet account restricted to pennies- when i checked- i was losing with them - LOL
Report Magic__Daps April 2, 2016 12:25 PM BST
Had a new sky for Cheltenham and had about 6 bets and at a loss, now max £50 takeout. The lot of them seem to be getting worse by the week, yet the BHA think there isn't a problem at all!

If this does get some serious momentum I may be able to get a reporter involved too.
Report doorman99 April 2, 2016 12:36 PM BST
signed
Report golightly April 2, 2016 12:41 PM BST
signed
Report mrs tiggy April 2, 2016 1:13 PM BST
Signed
Report bobmidd April 2, 2016 1:45 PM BST
Signed
Report lmfao April 2, 2016 1:50 PM BST
have just tried to place a 6/1 bet with Skybet - max stake 50p.....

thanks again for signing up - please also get others on this - we need as much momentum as possible in the early days....
Report Eeternaloptimist April 2, 2016 1:53 PM BST
It's important for people to be proactive here. There may be a few hundred to few thousand directly affected now but a petition like this won't gain momentum with just the hard core. The essential issue is for people who do support something like this to get family, friends and aquaintances to sign up.

Who knows what may happen then?
Report Lee Ho Fooks April 2, 2016 1:55 PM BST
I'm on with that EE, will be on it at work too
Report kenny mann April 2, 2016 2:33 PM BST
signed, paddy power referred a £10 bet today on a 5/2 shot!
Report kenny mann April 2, 2016 2:38 PM BST
From "The Mathematician".





#1 - Petition For More Honourable Bookmakers

I noted this Houses of Parliament petition the other day
that is seeking more honourable behaviour from our
bookmaker friends.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125456

Most of them work on the principle of
discrimination against individuals like you.
Show any sign of winning and they will
limit stakes on your individual account but
treat others very differently.

Picture going into a supermarket
to buy a loaf of bread but getting told at the till
that you personally because you are you are only
permitted to buy one slice.
The bloke in the queue after you they sell the whole loaf to.

Pure persecution and discrimination against individuals.

Even if they are not persecuting you today
they may want to in future.

I would not be in 100% agreement with the precise
wording of this petition. If setting it up myself
I may have phrased it around bookies accepting
a minimum liability as opposed to a minimum stake.

In New South Wales in Australia for example
bookmakers are indeed forced to accept
decent bets of 2500 Aussie dollars if memory serves me right
after punters there said bookie past behaviour was "not fair dinkum".
It was most of the uk brands who are also over there that got the most criticism.
The racing authorities there introduced rules to reduce individual
punter perpetuation behaviour.

But despite me not agreeing 100% with the exact wording of this one
I have signed it anyhow. At his stage it is more so about
raising awareness of the general issue in the Houses of Parliament.

It will take you a mere 30 seconds or so to complete.
Who knows in a years time you may be able to claim
that you yourself helped change the world for the better
for many punting years to come.

The Aussies didn't want a shafting so stood up for themselves and won.
What are you Uk  punters going to do?
Lube yourself up, bend over and touch your toes singing Dancing Queen
or do you have it in you to put up a bit more resistance than that?

[No offence intended to those of you who may find that
an attratctive idea ]

Here is the link again.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125456

Use your own vote then pass on the link
to any punter friends or webmasters you may be in contact with.
Report hong kong fooey April 2, 2016 2:39 PM BST
Signed
Report cribbage king April 2, 2016 2:56 PM BST
signed
Report kenny mann April 2, 2016 3:05 PM BST
1320 signatures so far

come on lads and lasses, takes 30 secs

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125456
Report homefortea April 2, 2016 7:20 PM BST
Eeternaloptimist 02 Apr 16 13:53 Joined: 28 Jun 10 | Topic/replies: 37,158 | Blogger: Eeternaloptimist's blog
It's important for people to be proactive here. There may be a few hundred to few thousand directly affected now but a petition like this won't gain momentum with just the hard core. The essential issue is for people who do support something like this to get family, friends and aquaintances to sign up.

Are you a feckin idiot...

Hundreds of thousands even millions of accounts have been closed.

Tens of millions world wide have been restricted.
Report willsford April 2, 2016 7:29 PM BST
Well done good work.. signed
Report Lee Ho Fooks April 2, 2016 7:51 PM BST
1399 signedShocked
When I checked earlier there were 58 and I got 5 of those.

It's gathering momentum, keep referring.
Report homefortea April 2, 2016 8:17 PM BST
According to the eternaloptomist that is it then...

The complete number of punters that have been restricted has been reached...
Report Lee Ho Fooks April 2, 2016 8:22 PM BST
You signed then hft?
Report Eeternaloptimist April 2, 2016 8:53 PM BST
homefortea

Are you a feckin idiot...

Hundreds of thousands even millions of accounts have been closed.


Do you have any evidence for this? Any at all?

You see unlike yourself I don't tend to make comments without a reasonable idea that I'm not talking rubbish. There's roughly 45 million adults in this country. Around 16% of those when surveyed admit to having a bet on the horses. That would be about 7 million. The vast majority of those will be your few times a year punter who bet on the National, Gold Cup, Derby etc. At a generous estimate you are probably talking about a hardcore race enthusiastic group of horse racing punters of around a million. Which is probably around where the combined totals of Racinguk, Channel Four and live racecourse betters comes to. Out of those a significant number will be your older 50 pence yankee or a few doubles and a treble type old timers. You see where I am taking you here? It's called the deep end and you haven't got your arm bands on. Out of the rest will be a significant number of regular and long term losers like yourself. Bookies still want to do business with that kind of person. No we are getting to the numbers I'm talking about. A few thousand maybe.

So you tell me gobshiite where are these millions of accounts which have been closed? Fantasy Island? Or did you open them all you high roller you? Laugh

Here's some free advice son. Put down the crack pipe. Have a good wash, a shave and put on some clean clothes instead of those rancid urine stained track suit bottoms. Go and peer outside your bedsit. Even better mix with some real people. It's amazing the things someone as clueless as yourself could pick up just mixing with more intelligent people than you are and let's face it that won't be difficult will it? I'd imagine the contents of a nappy would be evens against you on Mastermind.
Report Eeternaloptimist April 2, 2016 8:54 PM BST
Sorry about that. Where's my manners? Enjoy the rest of your evening.
Report homefortea April 2, 2016 9:07 PM BST
eternaloptomist..

Read my post again you loser...

You have spent hours posting **** e..

The millions that I have referred to are Worldwide...

I have personally had hundreds of accounts closed down and I am sure many more have..

You must be the village idiot.
Report homefortea April 2, 2016 9:09 PM BST
"A few thousand punters in the UK cannot get a bet on..."

eternalw anker you should be reported for offences against the Mental Health Act...
Report homefortea April 2, 2016 9:15 PM BST
No we are getting to the numbers I'm talking about. A few thousand maybe.


Is this fella for real....LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report lmfao April 2, 2016 9:17 PM BST
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/126319/sponsors/jTQaz3xBgrDkXvYCVxCi



above is the correct link- please sign and pass round
Report Eeternaloptimist April 2, 2016 10:46 PM BST
homefortea

The millions that I have referred to are Worldwide...


Erm. No. If the rest of us have to read your shiit the least you can do is read it yourself. There it is a few posts up. You were talking about tens of millions world wide so when you were talking about hundreds of thousands even millions you were clearly talking about this country you turnip.

Hundreds of thousands even millions of accounts have been closed.

Tens of millions world wide have been restricted.
Report Eeternaloptimist April 2, 2016 10:47 PM BST
Apologies lmfao for sidetracking a very honourable attempt to address an iniquity.
Report patrick starr April 2, 2016 11:58 PM BST
it was worth it simply for the line that referred to hft as the contents of a nappy! LaughLaughLaugh

signed and good luck Happy
Report foxy April 3, 2016 10:12 AM BST
cant really understand what all the fuss is about everybody on this thread must have a  betfair account and as it is always bigger on this exchange and you can have as much on as you like why worry about the high street bookmakers ?
Report YOMOMMA April 3, 2016 10:18 AM BST
Once you reach PC betfair is useless and plus there is no liquidity.
Report YOMOMMA April 3, 2016 10:19 AM BST
and it's filled with bots.
Report YOMOMMA April 3, 2016 10:20 AM BST
and the website is horrifically bad.
Report YOMOMMA April 3, 2016 10:21 AM BST
etc.
Report foxy April 3, 2016 10:21 AM BST
really i was led to believe betfair was the best invention of the last 100 years.
Report YOMOMMA April 3, 2016 10:23 AM BST
The best invention of the last 100 years was the mp3 player.
Report foxy April 3, 2016 10:40 AM BST
what are they ?
Report Fatlad 1981 April 3, 2016 10:45 AM BST
Are any of you lads pushing this on social media twitter/facebook,if it's been mentioned on the thread earlier I apologise
Report YOMOMMA April 3, 2016 10:48 AM BST
MP3 player is an electronic device that can play digital audio music files. Portable MP3 players are super such as the iPod.
Report foxy April 3, 2016 10:50 AM BST
glad you enjoy them
Report ima_mazed66 April 3, 2016 1:15 PM BST
You have to laugh at homefortea seemingly thinking that our parliament can set laws for the rest of the world lol.

It's totally irrelevant if millions worldwide have been restricted or had accounts closed if the clue is the petition website is for the UK Government and Parliament.
Report lmfao April 3, 2016 1:42 PM BST
Gentlemen:

Click this link to sign the petition:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/126319/sponsors/jTQaz3xBgrDkXvYCVxCi


Please spread the word on social media - can everyone please commit to get a few more signees please- and ask them to do the same?
Thanks
Report Lee Ho Fooks April 3, 2016 1:46 PM BST
I also signed the one that Kennyman mentioned, we all might as well sign both eh?

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125456
Report pablo-fanque April 3, 2016 1:50 PM BST
one link has 64 signatures
one has over 1000

I think you need to clarify which to sign , kennys or lmfao
Report lmfao April 3, 2016 1:57 PM BST
sign both!
i was unaware of the earlier one- when i put this one up

imo the other one is flawed and that we have more chance of a result if the NSW Australia argument is pressed re minimum liability per customer - rather than 'up to £25 stake'

Its just an opinion - lease sign both/ ask others  and spread the word. I know at least one MP is interested- we could do with journalists onside - anyone got a contact?

cheers
Report zipper April 3, 2016 2:00 PM BST
foxy post   10.12 is the real answer re bookies
Report ima_mazed66 April 3, 2016 2:22 PM BST
It's also a very one dimensional way of looking at it too and you need to see the bigger picture.

There are several reasons why sometimes using a bookie can be better than using an exchange.
Report IDKW April 3, 2016 2:29 PM BST
zipper clearly doesn't get "irony"
Report lmfao April 5, 2016 12:43 PM BST
How can we get this petition moving in a meaningful way?
Does anyone personally know/ can contact a journalist interested ? There were quite a few articles re this last year- BBC, the Guardian et al

but for impact we need the Sun or Mail to get the masses behind this
Anyone got the contact(s)  to push this?

I've contacted a high profile MP who last year showed an interest- hes on hols .

Anyone a member of other betting forums willing to post up the petition link with a few motivational words?

If you want a better betting experience - do something


Ta

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/126319
Report Johnny_Mustang April 5, 2016 1:09 PM BST
I don't want to be indelicate but this is an utter waste of time and a mere bagatelle. There are shades here of Don Quixote and Sancho Panza in Miguel de Cervantes' famous book fighting injustice through chivalrous actions. Has no chance of succeeding I'm afraid.
Report Johnny_Mustang April 5, 2016 1:10 PM BST
P.S. - My best friend is a Conservative MP for a great city in the south of England, I'll mention it to him for what it's worth.
Report lmfao April 5, 2016 1:15 PM BST
Johnny - thanks m8
Are you aware that this worked in NSW Australia and now bookies must place bets?

If you would take a mo and click on the link - its in the petition

If you can - thanks for supporting

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/126319



To Dream The Impossible Dream......
Report Johnny_Mustang April 5, 2016 1:20 PM BST
I wasn't aware LMFAO but UK bookies are an altogether different breed. Am having supper with my MP friend at the weekend and will let him know about it.

Good luck with this.
Report millhouse April 5, 2016 1:22 PM BST
Johnny:

Get enough names on the petition.

Get someone to write a press release stating the bookmaking industry are routinely refusing the bets of people that dare to actually win, and that winning is not actually allowed.

Voice the opinion that the media in this industry are complicit in covering it up.

Send it out to every journalist the bookmakers haven't corrupted, imo...
Report Johnny_Mustang April 5, 2016 1:26 PM BST
Paul Haigh's a great mate of mine and no longer in the industry (well not too much over here anyhow). It would tickle him to get involved now that he has no paymaster. I'll mention it to him too.
Report lmfao April 5, 2016 1:56 PM BST
Johnny- In Australia some of the big bookies were forced to take bets again- including Will Hills

cheers
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/126319
Report lmfao April 6, 2016 12:28 PM BST
ttt

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/126319
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