Shane Kelly

nearly vintage there...that said always been a jockey I would never back...

Nowhere near filth.

Got there too soon. The horse clearly has its own ideas about the game.

must be one of the worst rides in history comes away from the start as if it was a hurdle race tugging the bit out the horde then stands up 1 fur out when others are riding for all their worth ,
a 7lb claimer you wd be saying terrible but a jockey its laughable , what the fk are the stewards doing a ban is the only option , ride the horse through  the race ,what a complete tool

Evening Mart

Thank you Shane you very rarely let me down.

I don't do mart bashing but if you think that was really bad then the game is not for you.

Richard Hughes 1st irish runner ,he want forget that debacle in a hurry !

Dear oh dear that was actually cringe worthy watching that ride

the surprise is that anyone is surprised

have you been drinking borntowin  so you are telling me the jockey gave the horse every winning opertunity have another look at the race son and him doing his am standing up riding a hurdler 1 fur out , your having a larf perhaps he was being utra confident but his antics cost the owners and punters , and i only bet a place so does not affect me so not pocket talking
its supposed to be a pro flat race not a days hunting ffs

Utter nonsense mart. You watch it again, you will see that he got it to the front close home. The horse then downed tools.

Jesus, has nobody seen this before?

It's become a self-fulfilling prophecy with the horse, oh she has to be put in front right on the line, well tonight the winner pulls out more and there's not time to respond.

quirky ride my h0le. trys to win smart every time.

horse is a nutjob, hit the front to soon, three wins nck,nck,and sh says it all really

Because it's been ridden to win by that far.

yes and he tried it again and horse didnt go through with it.

She was pulling away from the third

all about opinions george, i will always have short price lay in the run on that.

always a good idea to watch it back andtake five minutes before commenting imo

did not need to he was trying to be a cockey bas--tard tucgging the horse 7 or 7 times and win by a neck but his antics back fired , he should be fined

and so i am not pocket talking


Date    Transactions    Details    Amount
plus15/01/2016
20:57    Bet Stake    21:00 HANDICAP (4YO+) 1m 2f 150yds - Poitin @ evens    -£173.00
plus15/01/2016
20:39    Bet Winnings    20:30 HANDICAP (4YO+) 2m - Duchess Of Marmite @ 1/2 (Win) Rule 4 Applies    £435.00
plus15/01/2016
20:28    Bet Stake    20:30 HANDICAP (4YO+) 2m - Duchess Of Marmite @ 1/2 Rule 4 Applies    -£300.00
plus15/01/2016
20:06    Bet Winnings    20:00 APPRENTICE HANDICAP 7f - Rose Angel @ 7/4 (Win)    £638.00
plus15/01/2016
20:00    Bet Stake    20:00 APPRENTICE HANDICAP 7f - Rose Angel @ 7/4    -£232.00  win had no benefit to me but he breached the rules of racing imo

comes away from the start as if it was a hurdle race tugging the bit out the horse

he certainly didnt tug the bit anywhere, he was drawn wide on a hold up horse so he had little option to be slow away and tuck in. something that has been done in the majority of its races.

nice after timing mart aint seen that for a week

Mart, no need to be posting bets..

nice comment as they went back to the boys trackside.

seemingly unaware he could be heard, he wants hanging........

then proceeded to tell us why he did nothing wrong

I don't think you'll have seen a post from me criticising a jockey / trainer, the reason being if you are 'into your racing' you know all the **** jockeys / trainers. I have backed horses which I know have been given an 'easy' run and only ever criticise myself because I should have known better.

Good post holywell...

i agree holywell, in this case i have watched the finish 3 times and still cant make up my mind about the ride. siding more to that he gave it every chance and the winner just wanted it more.

holywell - been into my racing for 30+ years and took me first 20 to read the signs with a few wavers in the past 10 mostly related to spencer! i'm sure i'm not alone in having an avoid list and i know from posts on here that some on my list are admired by others, so to each his own i guess. no surprise that shane kelly is near the top of the flat jockeys list but what pained me most was queally (another on my list) was stable jock to one of my all time heroes..

If the bob of heads had gone his way we would be lauding him as a genius.

He did put it there in time.

with him i doubt that par

the last 3 wins he has been cajoled along once and  coaxed along twice, hardly signs that he is straightforward

that does not mean that the jock can stand up 1f out

i cd have won on that horse , he was trying t win smug save its mark but he made a james hunt of it big time

where did i comment on that ?

by the way im not saying he did but your observations of the start are bollix

and these constant pictures are childish and pathetic

I've had a look back at the Get In coverage and I think JW was referring to the punters when he was just caught saying 'they wanna hang him'.

For me the filly has run through the line, albeit she carries herself a bit upright but I think that's just her. The jock on the winner didn't go for everything until well inside the final furlong and when he did his mount pulled out more and got the bob.

After the line DOM is running away and runs past the winner.

She has yet to be asked in a race to lead at the furlong or half-furlong marker, but they've got into their heads she has to be delivered as late as possible.

looking at her last 3 wins it would seem that way George but she doesnt look the most straightforward.

That's fair enough, dealer, but they've got it into their heads it has to be as late as possible and tonight it became a self-fulfilling prophecy that backfired.

When she beat Flashman at Chelmsford, for example, she got there in good time but he's hanging on to her, hanging on to her, the self-fulfilling prophecy... For me, if he asks her, she puts that to bed at Chelmsford.

maybe, be interesting to see if they do try something different, nothing to lose

creeping up the weights now, although tough to know where she is with her style of running so i suppose that might be a plus lol

Yeah, at least they're protecting her mark to some extent!

If she's asked to put a race to bed at the furlong marker but throws it in, I'll put my hands up, but until then...

Such is the way she travels, I think she could drop back to 12f. When she showed her first form for Hughes, it was over 12f but she was given a lot to do and ridden with kid gloves.

was nothing wrong with the ride...horse is quirky...looked certain winner going into last fur....as par said earlier if won would have been applauded.

bigmart    15 Jan 16 20:43 
must be one of the worst rides in history comes away from the start as if it was a hurdle race tugging the bit out the horde then stands up 1 fur out when others are riding for all their worth ,
a 7lb claimer you wd be saying terrible but a jockey its laughable , what the fk are the stewards doing a ban is the only option , ride the horse through  the race ,what a complete tool

a candidate for worst post of the yr....mart you int got a clue.

roida
roida 15 Jan 16 23:10 Joined: 12 Feb 11 | Topic/replies: 12,352 | Blogger: roida's blog
was nothing wrong with the ride...horse is quirky...looked certain winner going into last fur....as par said earlier if won would have been applauded.
i guess thats why you lay horses rodia , as for the start yes had a wide birth but most jockeys ease them into the race not yank the horse at a 45 deg angle , the other point is man and beast always will preduce more in a race getting lightly kept up to said work , these are not sprint bred and dont find an instant turn of foot , they are bred for middle dis/to staying races , hence the fact you cant be standing up , like a rodeo riding having a cup of tea while others row for all they are worth then find instant acceleration , they take time to find stride , quirky , i disagree its called trying to preserve h/cap mark and win by a neck , if you think this ride was ok rodia then you know a lot less than i thought about the logistics of racing , if he had gently ridden through out the race , and not tugged the **** out of it at the start horse wd have won with another 5lb on its back , jockey was holding the horse back to try and win by a neck,but he made a complete for want of a better word **** of it , that is the facts of this race , the facts he stopped started riding does not make the horse quircky its the jockey poor tactics messing it about from the start mid range and ful out , terrible ride , embarrassing and cringe worthy to watch , wazza stick to watch you know tar

mart, the only fact here is that you don't know what you are on about.

A cringeworthy assessment.

BornToWin
BornToWin 16 Jan 16 10:19 Joined: 13 Jul 05 | Topic/replies: 1,733 | Blogger: BornToWin's blog
mart, the only fact here is that you don't know what you are on about.

A cringeworthy assessment. i wd say thats your comments are that of a novice who cannot read races or admite the jockey made a complete hash off this big time ! that is a fact

the horse was very free there was nothing kelly could do...

stick to know you do beat mart....aftertiming & editing.

the horse was free nope have another looke, he was restraining it from the word go horse it's not querky its the way is been ridden , spoke to a few well regarded owners and they were shaking their heads in disbelief at his antics , one said i hope he is handing back his riding fee !

so they transported a horse,a lad or lass,travelling lad, and jockey at big expense all the way to dundalk to stop it?!!?!?  mart stop embarrasing yourself

spoke to a few well regarded owners and they were shaking their heads in disbelief at his antics

what do they think of your aftertiming and editing?

mart talks as if the horse wasn't given a chance to win.

Erm.... hate to break this to you mart but it was in front close home. I don't really want your thoughts on this but go on, tell us what happened from the furlong pole and what Kelly did wrong.

have you watched any of its other runs mart because you are seriously embarrassing yourself here.

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