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....not for me thank you
....over hyped up dungie lass if ever I saw one
....over hyped up dungie lass if ever I saw one
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What's a "Dungie" Lass. Never seen that anywhere before. But i do know what dung is. Not a very nice post comment.
Thought she spoke well and honestly, i think most people realise that she is light years behind Nina & katie but she is still young.
Bound to end up in the studio full time irish,get used to her. Photogenic,articulate and appeals to the younger set that advertisers want to reach and already a darling of the channel 4 team.If she replaces Fitz next week that would suit me !
The Morning Line this morning summed up why Ch4 have lost the plot and half their audience. Too many on the sofa and too much emphasis on personalities, reviews of year and cringe worthy predictions for 2016. Segal on the sofa and he barely got a word out and certainly was not able to share his views on form or betting in any meaningful way. The big betting race handicap hurdle was not even discussed !
Unfortunately I think there is little chance of this changing with ITV in 2017. Thios is a shame as I do think there is an audience out there for a saturday preview slot with some genuine experts and a format that allows proper discussion of form, betting and some of the wider issues with our sport - getting money on, closed accounts, whip rules, over dominance of some stables/owners making for uncompetitive racing etc
Take care
Fearless
Unfortunately I think there is little chance of this changing with ITV in 2017. Thios is a shame as I do think there is an audience out there for a saturday preview slot with some genuine experts and a format that allows proper discussion of form, betting and some of the wider issues with our sport - getting money on, closed accounts, whip rules, over dominance of some stables/owners making for uncompetitive racing etc
Take care
Fearless
Agree with fearless,4 races on c4 today not even mentioned(2 at ayr 1 Chelmsford)...the gravy train they are all on will end soon hopefully!.
There'll merely be different passengers on the next one, SD,
At least she spoke the truth about the ability of many Wannabe female riders.
Intelligent,articulate and a very capable jockey, still learning her trade. What's not to like.
Agree with Facts, impressive young lady. Too good for the Morning Line.
I agree with Facts and Brian. She was far more articulate than most of the male jockeys (especially the younger ones) we get to see. Her answer on whether she sees herself as a role model for younger girls was particularly forthright.
"....I do think there is an audience out there for a saturday preview slot with some genuine experts and a format that allows proper discussion of form, betting and some of the wider issues"
Seems to be a question of getting the format right, trying to appeal to serious racing fans and also dumbing it down a bit for other people who might watch but are only half interested in racing. It's hard to get the balance right and then screw up on both fronts.
Back to topic, Liz Kelly, I love her, very confident young lady, pretty intelligent too, excellent guest on the morning line. Some guests they have on are just not that interesting and have nothing positive to say, but she was very interesting and just said exactly what she thought in a clear way.
Seems to be a question of getting the format right, trying to appeal to serious racing fans and also dumbing it down a bit for other people who might watch but are only half interested in racing. It's hard to get the balance right and then screw up on both fronts.
Back to topic, Liz Kelly, I love her, very confident young lady, pretty intelligent too, excellent guest on the morning line. Some guests they have on are just not that interesting and have nothing positive to say, but she was very interesting and just said exactly what she thought in a clear way.
She has notions beyond her station as conveyed by her condescending remarks about the standard of riding in lady riders races. She was right but she's not much better if at all, it's the rides she's being gifted.
If she was capable,she would get more outside rides. The truth of is she is in a privileged position because of her step father,any competent jockey would have been able to steer home Teafortwo.
I didn't think she was that articulate but perhaps in terms of jockey's standards. The jockeycam where she was screaming before she even jumped the last showed a lack of composure.
If she was capable,she would get more outside rides. The truth of is she is in a privileged position because of her step father,any competent jockey would have been able to steer home Teafortwo.
I didn't think she was that articulate but perhaps in terms of jockey's standards. The jockeycam where she was screaming before she even jumped the last showed a lack of composure.
Were any of the predictions for 2016 a decent price?
Evs fav for Guineas? 4/1 shot in the Queen Mother? Odds on Champion Hurdle fav? I can't recall the other.
If I'd have been there I'd have given Midterm to win The Derby.
Evs fav for Guineas? 4/1 shot in the Queen Mother? Odds on Champion Hurdle fav? I can't recall the other.
If I'd have been there I'd have given Midterm to win The Derby.
They went for Oxford in the Boat Race too, T2F.
Don Cossack Gold Cup was the other
Thanks PF
So two with pretty poor prices and 3 with very poor prices.
So two with pretty poor prices and 3 with very poor prices.
When she stops wearing a Shawl/Jumper and you see those 34c`s of hers in a T-Shirt, she will be on Every week.
dj876
I didn't think she was that articulate but perhaps in terms of jockey's standards. The jockeycam where she was screaming before she even jumped the last showed a lack of composure.
She was about to become the first Woman jockey to win.a Grade 1 NH race. She had every right to scream to the heavens ffs !!
I didn't think she was that articulate but perhaps in terms of jockey's standards. The jockeycam where she was screaming before she even jumped the last showed a lack of composure.
She was about to become the first Woman jockey to win.a Grade 1 NH race. She had every right to scream to the heavens ffs !!
I like Lizzy, like her Mother honest, articulate and has an opinion !
Some of these male ''jock's'' they have on have the personalities of dead amoebas !
Some of these male ''jock's'' they have on have the personalities of dead amoebas !
sidthekid 02 Jan 16 15:47
When she stops wearing a Shawl/Jumper and you see those 34c`s of hers in a T-Shirt, she will be on Every week.
Facts 02 Jan 16 16:17
Moron
I have no idea about Ms Kelly's vital statistics but STK is spot on insofar as they would love to see her showing off her feminine attributes. We've seen the marketing types do so before with the likes of Turner, Milczarek and, more recently, Pendleton.
If STK is saying 't!ts oot' then I agree his post was moronic. He didn't explicitly say that though, so you might owe him an apology.
When she stops wearing a Shawl/Jumper and you see those 34c`s of hers in a T-Shirt, she will be on Every week.
Facts 02 Jan 16 16:17
Moron
I have no idea about Ms Kelly's vital statistics but STK is spot on insofar as they would love to see her showing off her feminine attributes. We've seen the marketing types do so before with the likes of Turner, Milczarek and, more recently, Pendleton.
If STK is saying 't!ts oot' then I agree his post was moronic. He didn't explicitly say that though, so you might owe him an apology.
I don't think Facts likes the female anatomy. We're men of the world Facts. By all means lobby Channel Four to stick a Chippendale on there with some chip fat rubbed into their buttocks if that's your thing.
On the lady in question she seems delightful. Full of enthusiasm. She clearly loves what she does and is more than capable of doing it competently.
You must be kicking yourself for not adding 'nice rack too,' EO.
She has notions beyond her station as conveyed by her condescending remarks about the standard of riding in lady riders races. She was right but she's not much better if at all, it's the rides she's being gifted.
If she was capable,she would get more outside rides. The truth of is she is in a privileged position because of her step father,any competent jockey would have been able to steer home Teafortwo.
I didn't think she was that articulate but perhaps in terms of jockey's standards. The jockeycam where she was screaming before she even jumped the last showed a lack of composure.
Great to see someone call it as it is.
Shes a rank average rider who gets gifted horses other decent riders would give their eye teeth for.
Nina Carberry and Katie Walsh aren't just in a different league to her, they are in different universe.
The biggest crime is that Walsh or Carberry never had decent owner/stable attempt to retain them as main jock.
Nina wouldn't have her shoes wiped by most of the riders in the Tolworth today.
If she was capable,she would get more outside rides. The truth of is she is in a privileged position because of her step father,any competent jockey would have been able to steer home Teafortwo.
I didn't think she was that articulate but perhaps in terms of jockey's standards. The jockeycam where she was screaming before she even jumped the last showed a lack of composure.
Great to see someone call it as it is.
Shes a rank average rider who gets gifted horses other decent riders would give their eye teeth for.
Nina Carberry and Katie Walsh aren't just in a different league to her, they are in different universe.
The biggest crime is that Walsh or Carberry never had decent owner/stable attempt to retain them as main jock.
Nina wouldn't have her shoes wiped by most of the riders in the Tolworth today.
Her attitude really stinks towards other human beings
couldn't disagree with dj more about lizzy Kelly,..shes no nina or Katie but she can do the job..i was @Aintree a few weeks ago she rode a top jockeys to sleep ffs..she does not get more outside rides because owners want men..i thought her grade 1 winning ride on boxing day spoke volumes..in the uk we don't have many good woman in nh racing..she is very good.
Agrapart had about 4 stone in hand on that field and is clearly at least a 140 horse. the 2nd was driven home yesterday to win off 113.
I would have won on it putting up 6 stone overweight
I would have won on it putting up 6 stone overweight
To me she came across as very sure of herself and perhaps thinks she's better than she is. In comparing her to the Irish ladies while Nina is the best of them all Katie Walsh has been fortunate to get the Mullins rides in the past and is actually not as good as some on here seem to think.
Jan 2, 2016 -- 4:20PM, Facts wrote:
dj876I didn't think she was that articulate but perhaps in terms of jockey's standards. The jockeycam where she was screaming before she even jumped the last showed a lack of composure.She was about to become the first Woman jockey to win.a Grade 1 NH race. She had every right to scream to the heavens ffs !!
What the heck is she doing screaming well before the last fence?
She can't be fully focused and is fortunate she didn't knock the horse. It lacked professionalism and composure,by all means scream her head off after the race is won.
Jan 2, 2016 -- 5:20PM, tony57 wrote:
couldn't disagree with dj more about lizzy Kelly,..shes no nina or Katie
It is common practice by jump jockeks ,in particular, to shout at their mounts during races to encourage the horse to jump or pull out a bit more.Some of the language can be somewhat choice.
she was screaming before the last - as she does through the race, and other races as an additional encouragement to motivate the horse, as Fallon chooses to whistle at them, nowt to do with lack of professionalism or composure in fact the complete opposite! hth
Completely irrelevant comparing her to other useless female GB riders,you sentimental old fool.Tony57
The reason she doesn't get outside rides is because she isn't good enough.
Name one winning ride she has ever rode that any competent jockey wouldn't have won on?
Motivational for the horse to be screeching
,sweet divine.Sharp minds.
she was like a dopey teenager after seeing Justin Bieber and it shows a complete lack of composure
The reason she doesn't get outside rides is because she isn't good enough.
Name one winning ride she has ever rode that any competent jockey wouldn't have won on?
Motivational for the horse to be screeching
,sweet divine.Sharp minds.she was like a dopey teenager after seeing Justin Bieber and it shows a complete lack of composure
dj, funny how you leave out my quote "she can do the job"?
Tony57 the quote button didn't work properly so had to retype it but it's all rubbish you wrote anyway.
Nearly as bad as Delta who thinks screeching at a horse conveys a sense of composure and professionalism.
Nearly as bad as Delta who thinks screeching at a horse conveys a sense of composure and professionalism.
im sorry I disagreed with you dj..ofcourse we all know if someone disagrees with you its rubbish.
Mikael D'Haguenet 02 Jan 16 17:05
sidthekid 02 Jan 16 15:47
When she stops wearing a Shawl/Jumper and you see those 34c`s of hers in a T-Shirt, she will be on Every week.
Facts 02 Jan 16 16:17
Moron
I have no idea about Ms Kelly's vital statistics but STK is spot on insofar as they would love to see her showing off her feminine attributes. We've seen the marketing types do so before with the likes of Turner, Milczarek and, more recently, Pendleton.
If STK is saying 't!ts oot' then I agree his post was moronic. He didn't explicitly say that though, so you might owe him an apology.
It was a sexist and insulting remark. Would same comment be applied to a male guest wearing a jumper ?
It was a moronic comment. So apology ? .....Nope !
sidthekid 02 Jan 16 15:47
When she stops wearing a Shawl/Jumper and you see those 34c`s of hers in a T-Shirt, she will be on Every week.
Facts 02 Jan 16 16:17
Moron
I have no idea about Ms Kelly's vital statistics but STK is spot on insofar as they would love to see her showing off her feminine attributes. We've seen the marketing types do so before with the likes of Turner, Milczarek and, more recently, Pendleton.
If STK is saying 't!ts oot' then I agree his post was moronic. He didn't explicitly say that though, so you might owe him an apology.
It was a sexist and insulting remark. Would same comment be applied to a male guest wearing a jumper ?
It was a moronic comment. So apology ? .....Nope !
What a simpering wimpy you are Facts. Men like looking at women. Women like looking at men. Each to their own. Enjoy your train set.
Great to see the new year kicking off on a note of cheerful jocularity.
Eeternaloptimist:
What a simpering wimpy you are Facts. Men like looking at women. Women like looking at men. Each to their own. Enjoy your train set.
That's the calibre of poster you are dealing with Facts!
What a simpering wimpy you are Facts. Men like looking at women. Women like looking at men. Each to their own. Enjoy your train set.
That's the calibre of poster you are dealing with Facts!
Facts knows very well the calibre of poster he is dealing with Rydal and that's why he hides rather than get into any intellectual, philosophical or indeed practical discussion with me. This falls into the latter. I don't see women telling other women off for engaging in a bit of risque banter about the other sex and take my word for it they can be far more explicit than men. Facts is very much a, words for effect rather than deeds person. He likes looking down his nose at those he considers beneath him. I have nothing but contempt for such people.
Oh and while you have his ear ask him how those refugees are doing living at his house.
Like I said words and not deeds.
Oh and while you have his ear ask him how those refugees are doing living at his house.
Like I said words and not deeds.
Facts is the forum half-wit and if he had a brain would have a job..
Nasty disgusting individual that would have us all living next door to the absolute scrotums of the World....
TAKE ONE IN FELLA...
Nasty disgusting individual that would have us all living next door to the absolute scrotums of the World....
TAKE ONE IN FELLA...
You're entitled to your view however erroneous Rydal but if I may draw your attention to my remark about the lady in question:
On the lady in question she seems delightful. Full of enthusiasm. She clearly loves what she does and is more than capable of doing it competently.
I'm not sure where your theory about sexism originates. Of course having worked with the mentally challenged when I was a younger man I do realise stupid people jump to strange conclusions.
As for the rest of your diatribe I return you to my earlier point. I believe in actions rather than empty rhetoric. I don't tell the world that I am going to be putting up refugees because it is the only decent thing to do and then slink away with my tail between my legs when challenged on the subject. You've backed the wrong pony son. I could eat both you and Facts for breakfast and have room for more. Think on.
On the lady in question she seems delightful. Full of enthusiasm. She clearly loves what she does and is more than capable of doing it competently.
I'm not sure where your theory about sexism originates. Of course having worked with the mentally challenged when I was a younger man I do realise stupid people jump to strange conclusions.
As for the rest of your diatribe I return you to my earlier point. I believe in actions rather than empty rhetoric. I don't tell the world that I am going to be putting up refugees because it is the only decent thing to do and then slink away with my tail between my legs when challenged on the subject. You've backed the wrong pony son. I could eat both you and Facts for breakfast and have room for more. Think on.
She is genuinely effusive and engaging. I don't really care how she compares to Nina Carberry. She s no fool, and will enjoy plenty more success on T42.
"...worked with the mentally challenged when I was a younger man ....I believe in actions rather than empty rhetoric....You've backed the wrong pony son........I could eat both you and Facts for breakfast and have room for more......Think on."
I am truly sorry if I got it wrong about you being a sexist - but I did get it right about you being a pompous windbag, didn't I?
I am truly sorry if I got it wrong about you being a sexist - but I did get it right about you being a pompous windbag, didn't I?
Eeternaloptimist
How many more scum can you take in you freak..
There are a hundreds of millions of them and I can agree to take them in if ONE IN ONE OUT and you can go out and one can come in..
Will you take me up you ****...
How many more scum can you take in you freak..
There are a hundreds of millions of them and I can agree to take them in if ONE IN ONE OUT and you can go out and one can come in..
Will you take me up you ****...
I think you misunderstood his post hft, good luck with that.
She's definitely made an impression on us, hasn't she? She's what racing needs in order to attract young people to the sport. I was at Sandown today..loads of young people. Really encouraging. Im impressed with her.
She's what racing needs in order to attract young people to the sport.
Young people tend not to identify sport with age. They look for peers. Dim, aren't you?
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The windbag needs to know he's been blocked, so his spouting nonsense is blowing in the wind.
What a shame.
Young people tend not to identify sport with age. They look for peers. Dim, aren't you?
Go on then Rydal. It's Christmas and good will to all men. I wouldn't take too much exception to being called a pompous windbag as long as it's done with a smile on your face. Not so keen on being referred to as an **** though.
And I can even extend a little kindness to Facts in this season of goodwill having tanned him raw during 2015. No wonder he's blocked me. He hasn't blocked everybody else who called him a knob for offering to put refugees up and then a bloody hypocrite when he backed out.
homefortea
I prefer not to refer to these poor unfortunates as scum. The fact that I consider them economic migrants, queue jumpers and therefore shouldn't be allowed in doesn't mean I have any wish to dehumanise them as well.
I prefer not to refer to these poor unfortunates as scum. The fact that I consider them economic migrants, queue jumpers and therefore shouldn't be allowed in doesn't mean I have any wish to dehumanise them as well.
How does rating Lizzy Kelly as an engaging personality degrade into the 'should we/shan't we take in refugee's' debate! ?'
FFS, there are some right numptys' who post on this forum !
FFS, there are some right numptys' who post on this forum !
With, of course homefortea being the most obnoxious !
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Having been informed I've blocked him, this sad individual proceeds to send four successive posts within the space of 5 mins..
despite blocking even sadder individual proceeds to keep responding to said individual who he claims to have blocked
ffs facts you still going
everytime facts has a loser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNrLI3OBwg
every year mate eh
everytime facts has a loser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNrLI3OBwg
every year mate eh
I'm merely informing ETO that he's wasting his breath. I'm not claiming to have blocked him, I have.
But you're right Racingqueen, Continuing to post to someone who is obviously deluded,is nonsensical.
But you're right Racingqueen, Continuing to post to someone who is obviously deluded,is nonsensical.
Having been informed I've blocked him, this sad individual proceeds to send four successive posts within the space of 5 mins..
Seeing as the bawbag has blocked me perhaps someone else could point out I was posting to others and not him. The day that gobshiite told everyone he was turning his house over to refugees and then welched is the day he was laughed off every other forum. He doesn't seem so popular around here either.
Seeing as the bawbag has blocked me perhaps someone else could point out I was posting to others and not him. The day that gobshiite told everyone he was turning his house over to refugees and then welched is the day he was laughed off every other forum. He doesn't seem so popular around here either.
I'm Merely
Stop explaining yourself man
Your worse than me
Have a great 2016 btw and anyone else lurking in
Stop explaining yourself man
Your worse than me
Have a great 2016 btw and anyone else lurking in
Jan 2, 2016 -- 7:56PM, Eeternaloptimist wrote:
Facts knows very well the calibre of poster he is dealing with Rydal and that's why he hides rather than get into any intellectual, philosophical or indeed practical discussion with me. This falls into the latter. I don't see women telling other women off for engaging in a bit of risque banter about the other sex and take my word for it they can be far more explicit than men. Facts is very much a, words for effect rather than deeds person. He likes looking down his nose at those he considers beneath him. I have nothing but contempt for such people.Oh and while you have his ear ask him how those refugees are doing living at his house.Like I said words and not deeds.
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