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Johnny_Mustang
19 Nov 15 10:09
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Two things.

1 - Not sure you mentioned the horse's size anywhere, and

2 - Your post is an utter disgrace and you are an idiot.

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By:
koikeeper
When: 19 Nov 15 10:13
If you want some entertainment as well as the easy money from laying the clown, watch the race and giggle your head off as it struggles to get over the first two fences, then falls at the third fence

Must be something wrong with you!
By:
Diff-rent
When: 19 Nov 15 10:17
What a disabled person has to do with a horse jumping over a fence beats me.
By:
anotheronebitesthedust
When: 19 Nov 15 10:18
Johnny:

1) The trainer openly admitted the horse is very tiny, read the RP comments on one of its previous races and the videos of it's previous races... it's a DWARF, small horse, or you can call it whatever you want but SIZE MATTERS over the jumps, especially in chase races. While I'm delighted to get free money from laying it, there's no excuse to send a tiny horse over fences when it has a hard time over hurdles.

2) My post is my opinion, it's totally correct and I'm a genius. This will be confirmed after the race, you'll come back and say "wow, you really know your stuff dude".
By:
Diff-rent
When: 19 Nov 15 10:21
There's an old saying , " be carful what you wish for ".

Let's hope nothing happens to the horse today.
By:
Johnny_Mustang
When: 19 Nov 15 10:21
You seem to be obsessed with size, or a lack of it, and maybe that's a metaphor for your own personal inadequacies.

And you're not a genius, far, far from it. Keep your vulgar and distasteful opinions to yourself in future.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 19 Nov 15 10:25
Surprised this thread has not been reported .
By:
anotheronebitesthedust
When: 19 Nov 15 10:26
What a disabled person has to do with a horse jumping over a fence beats me.

I'm disabled myself (mentally not physically), but I can function fine and I've got zero points on my driving licence.

Disabled people who've got issues with their legs should be protected, just as disabled horses with leg issues, nobody will disagree with this surely.

This horse does not run normally, it's obvious just as it's obvious when you see a human who's got an issue with walking, they need help, not given silly challenges like put into a chase race or being asked to climb a mountain if the disabled creature is a human.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 19 Nov 15 10:29
Even worse if your disabled knocking physically disabled people.
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 19 Nov 15 10:29
Just 2 minor details, no meeting at Fakenham today, and Blue Buttons is a point winner, one-from-one.
By:
Addictedtowinning
When: 19 Nov 15 10:30
I am not having this. Original poster - take a look at yourself. Reported.
By:
anotheronebitesthedust
When: 19 Nov 15 10:33
There's an old saying , " be carful what you wish for ".

Let's hope nothing happens to the horse today.


I hope nothing happens to it either, read my post and you can clearly see that I'm annoyed with the trainer for putting this tiny little thing over the big fences.

Yeah I add some entertainment to it by calling it a dwarf, but calling a horse a dwarf is fine. Just means smaller than most other horses.

One thing that is guaranteed to happen to it is that it'll get beaten, but of course, let's hope it comes out of the race fine and the trainer comes to his senses and never sends the dwarf again over fences.
By:
Sergeant Cecil
When: 19 Nov 15 10:34
That opening post might be the weirdest post I've ever seen on a forum in 13-years of reading them.  Utterly bizarre.
By:
koikeeper
When: 19 Nov 15 10:36
Blue Buttons jumped well in it point...
By:
Breedingmad
When: 19 Nov 15 10:36
Will be removed 101
By:
anotheronebitesthedust
When: 19 Nov 15 10:41
Just 2 minor details, no meeting at Fakenham today, and Blue Buttons is a point winner, one-from-one.

Yeah you're right, WINCANTON.

But there's only ONE 3.00pm race so I'm sure most people would've found it. People do follow my suggestions, the last time I posted I gave a 5/2 winner and I insisted it would win easily and it did.

I only bother every few months these days because of jealous clowns like above... reported blah blah... you hurt my fragile little feelings boohoo... I've been here since 2001 and I'm one of the most respected long term members here... I wrote nothing wrong, simply shared valuable information on a lay that will be successful with some humour injected into my post, and I hope people lay it and enjoy the money.

I'd say good luck but luck isn't needed, just sound logic like mine.
By:
anotheronebitesthedust
When: 19 Nov 15 10:44
Will be removed 101

Who are you exactly?

Jealousy and envy are not good.

You're a new member who joined on the 25th July 2014.

I'm one of the earliest and most established members here, joined in 2001.

I know the rules, thank you.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 19 Nov 15 10:44
Being a Shetland Pony myself I find your post deeply upsetting.
By:
anotheronebitesthedust
When: 19 Nov 15 10:49
That opening post might be the weirdest post I've ever seen on a forum in 13-years of reading them.  Utterly bizarre.

Well I could've just put the lay down and said "this horse is too small for fences, I think it's a decent lay", but that would've been a boring read.

I'm a creative spirit, so being boring isn't acceptable to me and it just isn't in my DNA.

But anyway, results are what matter and I've stated with confidence an odds on shot that is clearly going to lose and get beaten.

Not like I've played it safe exactly, but no need to as I'm spot on.
By:
swift-tuttle
When: 19 Nov 15 10:50
.... and your point about koikeeper's point about the point to point?
By:
Sergeant Cecil
When: 19 Nov 15 10:52
It's better to have someone think you're boring than to have someone think you're a complete oddball, which everyone here now does.
By:
salmon spray
When: 19 Nov 15 11:03
Described as a good-topped mare by Timeform who say nothing else about her size. She HAS fallen twice over hurdles but has had 8 runs since the last occasion and has won 3 of them.
One of the first GN winners I remember was Team Spirit in 1964 when the fences were a lot bigger than they are now. He was just 15 hands. I should think anything over 13 hands would be sufficient to cope with the Fakenham fences on that basis.
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 19 Nov 15 11:09
" ....dwarf is fine. Just means smaller than most other horses"

I know it was only banter and that is fine, and you might be proven to be right, although she did win her only point-to-point.

Pendil wasn't very big either - although not a dwarf either !  He was more like a greyhound than the stamp of a proper good old fashioned chaser.  And if he had been born a bit later and was in the Francome era he may well have won 2 Cheltenham Gold Cups, but he was still a brilliant chaser.

Sure the trainer knows what he is doing here, and if you are right or wrong, just hope the horse comes back safe and well.
By:
anotheronebitesthedust
When: 19 Nov 15 11:09
.... and your point about koikeeper's point about the point to point?

I don't think it has any relevance, this is a serious chase race not a soft point to point, there's a big difference.

It it's been schooled well it MIGHT get round, but it'll be well beaten because of too much effort involved in a tiny horse getting over the fences.

And as I said, the horse is often nervous over hurdles let alone fences, I spent five hours watching videos of it's past runs.

The horse has a strange running motion, and it is a very small horse. These two things are facts, anyone can verify these even if they disagree with me that it'll get beaten (it will lose, but everyone's entitled to their opinion even if their opinion is wrong).

It's better to have someone think you're boring than to have someone think you're a complete oddball, which everyone here now does.

I've made similar posts with similar humour before.

Nobody complains after they see I was spot on and predicted an outcome correctly, the thank you messages flood in.

If you get results you can be odd and eccentric without any issues in my experience.

Not just on this forum, it applies to life in general.

Being called an oddball is actually a compliment to me, it means the humour I injected into my post worked.

And not only have I provided an excellent lay, I've also expanded people's thinking.

Most people will have never heard a small horse called a dwarf before, so I'm opening up people's minds to the infinite possibilities in life.
By:
anotheronebitesthedust
When: 19 Nov 15 11:17
Sure the trainer knows what he is doing here, and if you are right or wrong, just hope the horse comes back safe and well.

I hope the horse is safe and well too after it gets turned over at odds on, it's health is more important than some little chase race.

There are actually a lot of other reasons why it'll lose but I only listed two as I stated, I spent five hours watching videos of its previous runs and spent another four or five hours looking at other things before I was able to come to my conclusion.

It might sound like a lot of time, but when you're putting on fairly big sums and betting selectively you've got to do your homework and leave no stone unturned.
By:
IDKW
When: 19 Nov 15 11:25
There's over £700 quids worth of easy money for you there to lay at odds of between 8/11 - 4/5.
I expect you'll snap that up forthwith?
By:
Sergeant Cecil
When: 19 Nov 15 11:34
Being called an oddball is never a compliment, unless you are, in fact, an oddball.

Nonetheless, Blue Buttons has two opponents today, one of which is described as "only small", so that presumably can't win either.  So why would you not back Cresswell Breeze at 3s instead of laying fave at 8/11?
By:
TELL DEL
When: 19 Nov 15 11:40
She should outclass this pair IF her jumping holds up, but fair play to you your not a guesser, you made a point (in your entertaining way) why you think her jumping could be suspect. It's all about opinions.......
By:
anotheronebitesthedust
When: 19 Nov 15 11:42
There's over £700 quids worth of easy money for you there to lay at odds of between 8/11 - 4/5.
I expect you'll snap that up forthwith?


I made my bets before I posted the odds on dwarf which will get turned over at 3pm.

I wrote "max out all your cards, empty your bank account" for amusement purposes and I'd be amazed if anyone took it literally.

As always... people should only bet what they can afford to lose.

Strange things can happen, I mean what if the other two horses fell early on?

The dwarf could then be ridden to complete the race really slowly with no opposition and the lay would then be unsuccessful... these things happen (albeit, rarely).

That's why I always take Valium before my selections run, just in case something strange happens.
By:
salmon spray
When: 19 Nov 15 12:03
How much Valium ( its always called Diazepam these days btw ) as a matter of interest ?
By:
Johnny_Mustang
When: 19 Nov 15 12:12
^ Too effing much.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 19 Nov 15 12:15
LaughLaugh
By:
holywell
When: 19 Nov 15 12:32
When I see an extravagant post like the OP's I think 'what other usernames does he / she post under'. I'm sure of course that the OP will reply he / she is 'the one and only'. Of course the other possibility is that they are returning from a break at HMP.Mischief

If in fact you have layed the horse good luck with your lay.
By:
top2rated
When: 19 Nov 15 12:38
I think I've found the connection.......



They look like small blue buttons.
By:
salmon spray
When: 19 Nov 15 12:43
10mg is rather strong as well.
By:
anotheronebitesthedust
When: 19 Nov 15 12:44
Being called an oddball is never a compliment, unless you are, in fact, an oddball.

Nonetheless, Blue Buttons has two opponents today, one of which is described as "only small", so that presumably can't win either.  So why would you not back Cresswell Breeze at 3s instead of laying fave at 8/11?


They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

So it naturally follows that oddsballs are in the eyeballs of the beholder.

I've done backing as well as laying, but it's pointless writing what I've bet as I or anyone could make stuff up.

Everyone should bet at their level in any case, it isn't a competition to see who can place the biggest bets.

She should outclass this pair IF her jumping holds up, but fair play to you your not a guesser, you made a point (in your entertaining way) why you think her jumping could be suspect. It's all about opinions.......

No real guessing involved, I watched five hours of video of her previous runs. Playing the same races over and over again, when you do that you start to pick up on useful specifics in my experience.

Regarding her being in a different class, the official ratings suggest that this is media hype and she doesn't have that much in hand at all strictly on the figures. I place a lot of weight on the official ratings.

Cresswell Breeze getting to within 2.5 lengths of a 143 rated horse on her chase debut, is more solid than her recent hurdle ratings in my opinion which are mostly in the 130's.

Pass The Time has also recorded figures in the 130's on its recent hurdle runs, even if the odds on favourite's jumping did hold up (it won't), it would still be no easy race for her in my opinion.

I predict the favourite will set out to make all, and may well give her backers a false sense of security over the first few fences, but she'll eventually make a mess of a few and while she got away with it often over hurdles, fences are a different ballgame and she'll lose so much momentum it'll be "game over" pretty quickly, the other two will cruise past her and her embarrassed jockey will pull her up to save face, or she'll trail in last. The best case scenario is that Pass The Time doesn't handle the ground and she finishes a distant second, Cresswell Breeze loves the mud and is the most likely winner.

I feel sorry for all the people who've backed Blue Buttons, along with their childish fantasy of Blue Buttons making all of the running from start to finish.

People do have to grow up and accept that Santa Claus doesn't exist at some point in their lives, and the same logic thing applies here, people need to grow up and accept that a dwarf with wobbly legs isn't going to win a chase race.

All they're going to see is this horse blundering the race away, it'll soon be off the bridle and they'll quickly know deep down that it's over.

This is the best case scenario, she may fall or unseat the rider at the first or second fence and get the job done quicker, it's realistic and entirely possible.

Anyway I'll be back after the race is over, please post all your compliments etc below after the dwarf is done (lost).
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 19 Nov 15 12:49
"They all come here, they all come here. How do they find me?"....
By:
roida
When: 19 Nov 15 12:51
where is the op's 1st post?
By:
Sergeant Cecil
When: 19 Nov 15 12:58
It was deleted.  I saved it for posterity:

http://ft.trillian.im/c7f92e91eb503d0f48888a580871d99824603406/6D9BqRbWjAKGGLgCqzQ5FVGKNomGz.jpg

How come you didn't realise it had won a point if you spent 5 hours on the race?  Or that Pass The Time is also small?
By:
Breedingmad
When: 19 Nov 15 13:05
My 101 came up...
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