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The next scheduled meeting for this panel is in a couple of weeks, so still chance to submit items for discussions.
I have already submitted suggested tighter controls for responsible gambling whilst online. This includes, KYC procedures when setting up an account (not on withdrawal), ability to set limit of stake that can be bet per event and remove the capability of deposit using credit cards.
Recent events on this forum suggest improvement in handling horses refusing to start and horses weighing in light.
The notes from the initial meeting can be seen below. However, as of yet the BHA, Gambling Commision and starting price regulatory commission are yet to accept or implement any recommendations (however hopefully this will come in time).
Don't forget to voice your concerns or issues to BettingForum@britishhorseracing.com
FORUM NEWS
8 September 2015: first Horseracing Bettors Forum meeting has taken place
The first Horseracing Bettors Forum, which took place at the BHA on Friday afternoon, was attended by all Forum members, with administrative support provided by BHA, and lasted for the full three and a half hours.
A wide range of Agenda topics were discussed, and it is the Forum’s intention to receive back the minutes and approve those minutes before issuing a fuller press release, probably towards the end of next week.
Nonetheless, we can reveal that the Forum voted by a majority to support a proposal for consideration by the Starting Price Regulatory Commission as part of that body’s consultation process.
The detailed proposal recommends adjustments to over-rounds at a race-level in instances in which those over-rounds fall outside agreed parameters. The Forum will also be registering its concern that those bookmakers which constitute the sample are too easily identified, or guessed at, given current SP methodology.
It discussed, in brief, Rule (B) 10.5.2 (the Speculative Bid rule) and agreed that the problem at Ascot was with the implementation of the Rule and with communication, and not necessarily with the Rule itself. We expect those involved to have learned from mistakes, which adversely affected bookmakers as well as punters, and for the experience not to be repeated. We do not recommend scrapping the Rule.
HBF has already received a large amount of correspondence regarding betting account restrictions and closures: it constitutes a sizeable majority of the Forum’s correspondence so far.
HBF will be seeking to establish to what degree this is representative of the problem more widely, by engaging with the BHA’s Racing & Betting Group and with other relevant stakeholders. The Forum has a number of suggestions and observations in this area but will not be going public with them until such engagement has taken place.
Other items discussed and actions agreed upon may be dealt with in that later press release.
HBF wishes to thank BHA for its considerable assistance in establishing the Forum and in facilitating its first meeting, which included a brief presentation from Nigel Roddis of BHA about the ongoing Jump Racing Consultation.
The intention is currently for HBF to have its second meeting on Monday November 23.
I have already submitted suggested tighter controls for responsible gambling whilst online. This includes, KYC procedures when setting up an account (not on withdrawal), ability to set limit of stake that can be bet per event and remove the capability of deposit using credit cards.
Recent events on this forum suggest improvement in handling horses refusing to start and horses weighing in light.
The notes from the initial meeting can be seen below. However, as of yet the BHA, Gambling Commision and starting price regulatory commission are yet to accept or implement any recommendations (however hopefully this will come in time).
Don't forget to voice your concerns or issues to BettingForum@britishhorseracing.com
FORUM NEWS
8 September 2015: first Horseracing Bettors Forum meeting has taken place
The first Horseracing Bettors Forum, which took place at the BHA on Friday afternoon, was attended by all Forum members, with administrative support provided by BHA, and lasted for the full three and a half hours.
A wide range of Agenda topics were discussed, and it is the Forum’s intention to receive back the minutes and approve those minutes before issuing a fuller press release, probably towards the end of next week.
Nonetheless, we can reveal that the Forum voted by a majority to support a proposal for consideration by the Starting Price Regulatory Commission as part of that body’s consultation process.
The detailed proposal recommends adjustments to over-rounds at a race-level in instances in which those over-rounds fall outside agreed parameters. The Forum will also be registering its concern that those bookmakers which constitute the sample are too easily identified, or guessed at, given current SP methodology.
It discussed, in brief, Rule (B) 10.5.2 (the Speculative Bid rule) and agreed that the problem at Ascot was with the implementation of the Rule and with communication, and not necessarily with the Rule itself. We expect those involved to have learned from mistakes, which adversely affected bookmakers as well as punters, and for the experience not to be repeated. We do not recommend scrapping the Rule.
HBF has already received a large amount of correspondence regarding betting account restrictions and closures: it constitutes a sizeable majority of the Forum’s correspondence so far.
HBF will be seeking to establish to what degree this is representative of the problem more widely, by engaging with the BHA’s Racing & Betting Group and with other relevant stakeholders. The Forum has a number of suggestions and observations in this area but will not be going public with them until such engagement has taken place.
Other items discussed and actions agreed upon may be dealt with in that later press release.
HBF wishes to thank BHA for its considerable assistance in establishing the Forum and in facilitating its first meeting, which included a brief presentation from Nigel Roddis of BHA about the ongoing Jump Racing Consultation.
The intention is currently for HBF to have its second meeting on Monday November 23.
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The HBF has a Twitter feed - @HbfBritain
I have asked a few questions there recently and received replies.
I have asked the question whether any of the forum members receive payment from bookmakers - potential conflict of interest if they do?
I have asked a few questions there recently and received replies.
I have asked the question whether any of the forum members receive payment from bookmakers - potential conflict of interest if they do?
An answer of sorts Paris - you can have a nosey at their Twitter page. I'll post on here if you are not into Twitter.
I will follow up with a reply to them when I get a chance.
I will follow up with a reply to them when I get a chance.
Thanks; I did see it on Twitter. Not sure what to make of the reply tbh.
I have tweeted the to the effect that their credibility will, fairly or otherwise, rest or fall on the restrictions issue......
I have tweeted the to the effect that their credibility will, fairly or otherwise, rest or fall on the restrictions issue......
What a complete nonsense and a waste of time..
Swardean you must be living on another planet and your head position must be a contortionists dream..
"KYC procedures when setting up an account"......
They certainly do at the moment (!) and that data sharing is against the law and when proven will mean massive fines for those involved and even gaol.
Just because an individual employee has left the alleged "bookmaker" those that have been engaged in the illegal acts will still be liable..
Watch this space...
Swardean you must be living on another planet and your head position must be a contortionists dream..
"KYC procedures when setting up an account"......
They certainly do at the moment (!) and that data sharing is against the law and when proven will mean massive fines for those involved and even gaol.
Just because an individual employee has left the alleged "bookmaker" those that have been engaged in the illegal acts will still be liable..
Watch this space...
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