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rayman
08 Nov 15 09:18
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The situation with the books only accommodating their target customers and banning/ restricting policies. Is it time for a Tote Monopoly. Look at the prize money for races at Auteuil yesterday and today.
The only alternative as I see it is that they must agree to a fair trading requirement determined by an appropriate committee.

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pablo-fanque
When: 08 Nov 15 14:28
I think the bha should start opening their own bookmakers all over the country with a view to in say 5-10 years , only allowing bets on horse racing to be placed in their shops .
then 100% can go towards horse racing instead of the 10.75% or whatever it is now
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onlooker
When: 08 Nov 15 14:39
A Tote Monopoly has been missed twice ...

First time - When Betting Shops were legalised in the early 1960s.

Although, admittedly- it 'would have gone down like a lead balloon' in those days - and for the next 4 decades, too.

Second time - Far more recently - When the Tote was sold to the 'BOOKMAKER' Fred ... an absolutely unforgivable ERROR.
By:
foxy
When: 08 Nov 15 14:43
the races with good prize money in the uk seldom get many runners,as for a tote monopoly i have been to quite a few counties racing and other than australia i have been bored out of my head.
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foxy
When: 08 Nov 15 14:45
agree with onlooker re betfred getting the tote there were probably deals done just like the way chelmsford got so many fixtures.
By:
greenhill
When: 08 Nov 15 14:49
Hi rayman never thought i would agree but i now do.When the Tote was sold to Binns i must confess i took little interest but this was prior to experiencing the bookmaker restrictions and then the PC on here.As another member suggested on the account closure thread a 5% take with no interference or greed would work to the benefit of all concerned.
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onlooker
When: 08 Nov 15 15:08
I would like to presume that the OP is NOT advocating a TOTAL Tote Monopoly (To include On-Course) ... But an OFF-Course Tote Monopoly, with ON-Course Bookmakers still operating, as in Australia.

However - that would be akin to, or entail, a Nationalisation of Betting Shops  - or, as with pablo's suggestion, returning to the pre-1960s days of OFF-Course betting with BOOKMAKERS being made ILLEGAL, again.

Either of the above scenarios would, surely, land us with horrendous legal compensation claims by Billy's et al - and to be paid by whom? - The Government would not 'divi up' - The BHA are already running at at Annual loss. 

However - If a - or, rather, the - Horse Racing Consortium were to have got the TOTE - they would have, at least, RETAINED the TOTE BETTING SHOPS - and with the availability, and often preference for, ONLINE Betting - been able to grow the TOTE POOLS and offer a VIABLE alternative to the Punter - by REDUCING the percentage 'Take' from those Pools - as opposed the Fred the Ego having actually INCREASED the 'Take' - thus killing that alterenative.
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