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Final declarations were made this morning, and so you are not playing ante-post.
For what it's worth I' m with Seamour |
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IDKW, I was of the opinion, apologies if wrong, that regardless if you backed a horse prior to an overnight market being formed, you would still be backing in the anti post market ? I'm sure I'm on in that particular market, but will check. thanks
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would imagine 11 this morning would be the final decs,a few firms might go 5 places from tomorrow.
gl rob |
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Backed bot this morning KIW, unfortunately did not have time to post then, so have put them up this evening. So IDKW, after the final decs this morning, with most firms it will be NR/NB. KIW if both the same price with 5 places available I may be swayed into an additional couple of wagers, can see NR/NB but only 1/4 as of yet. thanks both
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Good luck robster.
Not had a look yet, but wonder if like last year, O'Meara has one that is gunna run 2 furlongs further than the rest of the field but still look like it's just joined in at the furlong pole? ![]() |
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In all seriousness, if I had one drawn wide, I'd deffo be telling the jock to take the 'Tudhope' outer route!
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O'meara's horse was on the short list, Tudhope has rode in 3 of the last 4 renewals, 3rd twice and a Win... Awake My Soul 12F ?, not for me but they could be famous last words
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It was beaten 20l in this 2 years ago, but looking at the form comment, it looks like Gibbons either thought it was 5f race or he had a bus to catch!
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Looks like it been running some shockers in Italy but the handicapper hasn't relented, and I see it failed to sell at the sales last week.
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Already backed Only Orsenfoolsies Rob, probably one of the better swimmers in the field as this will be a real slog & a horse that won the Victor Ludorum Juvenile Hurdle in the mud will relish this real test come receday.
Not anti post any more anyway think all firms have been NR no bet since the afternoon. |
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Forgot to add with the claimer up will be off bottom weight with 7st 10lb, what's not to like
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Sorry to rain on your parade fellas
Ive got involved with Only Orsen But at the moment i can stop a train |
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I'm sure ya luck will change soon HKF, it may be one of those races where not that many get into it as it turns into a slog... as pumphol already states, Only Orsenfoolsies won't mind that especially off his feather weight, hoping he will be involved. GL
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Argus for me
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Argus out!
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Badge holder No.1 of the Only Orsenfoolsies Fan Club signing in.
There is no finer sight in racing than Orsen launching himself off the front end fully 2 furlongs out. They'll need to be hard bastads to get past him. Cheers. |
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Four of the last ten runnings have been on ground that produced a final time more than 12 seconds slower than standard, including the last two years. Those four races have been won by horses drawn 18,21,22,18 respectively.
Going stick last year was 5.7, in 2013 it was 6.0. Current report gives the going stick reading as 6.0 on Wednesday morning. Why the draw bias? Because in summer they only water the inner half of the track as you can see from viewing any replay of a 12F race during a dry spell, which shows the part of the track by the inside rail is greener than the part seven or eight horses wide. By this stage of the season after plenty of rain, the outer half of the track may be genuine soft ground, but the inner half is a quagmire. First to spot this was Willie Carson in 1990, who won the race on Azzaam by racing wide. You may wonder why this has stuck in my memory - well I had the 12/1 runner-up to Azzaam in a double with the 12/1 winner of the Mackeson Gold Cup, which back then was run on the same day! |
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I think I can recall Ray Cochrane going round the outside on a solo too...and who can forget young Tudhope last year? Hope you're reading Callum.
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Re Argus
Trainer Ralph Beckett said: "He's a non-runner. He's fine. He had a dirty trach (tracheal) wash, that's all." Obviously not ' fine ' or you'd be running him !! |
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Might as well jump on the reliant robin express! At a pony to 1 why not.
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Green Light(who was rightly gelded beginning of season).imo best hand.horse in race.
Think he is a mid-nineties horse. Has been eye-catching all year.One bad run 2 outings ago,but i think he would have won last time with a clear run(1st time visor). The 2 draw is a big negative.He needs to get across,but with 19 runners that is unlikely. Backed it ante-post,but will not be having any more on him. |
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Just have a lay-up in running on Green Light........ even with the head-gear I still feel he holds a bit back for himself........ cud go as low as 2/1 or lower.....
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Filling in the race template shows Green Light lacks a class 1 course win . that's the only negative
Only OrsenFoolsies has no negatives. |
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Zand
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Recent stats greatly favour the well drawn horses rated between 93 and 99. That brings the field down to four and are all well drawn. Three of them I can't really fancy and Seamour is not value and it may be to short for it.
is it significant that Joe Fanning used to travel to Switzerland to ride Zand when it was trained by John Oxx for the Agha Khan? |
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BARWICK e/w for me. Good luck
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First Mohican for me. Win and place. Have a good day, most of you!
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Keep seeing Storm Force Ten galloping them into submission from the front, over to you DP to set the right fractions...!
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Could be git. Best run under Johnston was when Fanning was on board too. Agree with the draw being an issue. Hopefully it can get out wide early so it's not too disadvantaged. It will be telling whether or not money comes for it 5 minutes before the off.
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I think Willie Carson also tried the wide route in 1984 on Mick Naughton's Kingswick. It worked, but unfortunately Walter Swinburn tracked him all the way on Abu Kadra (drawn 22 of 29), and then outsped him in the final 2f.
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Storm Force Ten over 12f at Donny??? have the lay-up just in case....
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...just noticed Abu K(h)adra going in the next.
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Esteaming for me - mainly stats based.
Seamour looks the class horse but horses running at more than 14f LTO are 0/29. |
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Last years Daily Mirror showed only one horse that had its best rating on heavy going - Eagle Top the winner
Today there maybe a repeat with Storm Force Ten? |
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Nice write up for areally tough race, my three for a bit of fun:
Seamour Cousin Khee Only Orsenfoolsies |
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3lb overweight for OO?
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Cousin Khee is a huge price @ 16 with the ground key to him and Eton Rambler could sneak into a place at huge odds.
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Money came for Litigant
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23s into 12s, incredible. Normal punters no chance.
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