How did that German Horse get in off 50

not sure sparrow, i also thought Gold not silver got an "over confident" ride, looked laid out for this, must be a bit galling when the jockey lets you down

Unfortunately I only backed Nice Story to be placed.

THat HAS to be a mistake by the BHA, or Wetherbys.

According to RACING Post - it has only ever run ONCE on the All-Weather -
- So would NOT qualify for an ALL-WEATHER RATING -
- and HAVE to run off it's TURF Rating, until it had sufficient, different, ALL-WEATHER Form

NICE STORY ...

    5-y-o (22Apr10 ch m)
    Suave (USA)   — Royal Aly (USA) (Royal Academy (USA)  (8.5f))
    Trainer Rudolf Storp
    Owner Bernward Weber
    Breeder Storeway Ltd

Flat placings 16/28617/5371455655-084111310

LIFETIME RECORD     STARTS     WINS     2NDS     3RDS     WINNINGS     EARNINGS     BEST TS     BEST RPR     OR†

Flat
Turf     25     7     1     2     £14,201     £17,254     41     80     [/b]77
All-weather     1     0     0     0     £0     £0     —     —     50
Rules Races     26     7     1     2     £14,201     £17,254     —     —     —

I was hoping you would reply, onlooker. I couldn't believe my eyes and travelling over from Germany too. Haven't we seen a similar thing before with French horses at a low level?

Why wasn't it odds on?

Yes - But, usually, over Hurdles and Fences ... and with MORE than just ONE run in France - unless a Winner in France, that is.

The horse ran in Guernsey in May 2015 beating the 57 rated Cabuchon by 4 lengths in receipt of 15lb

That must be the reason, keithmac. But has been very leniently treated overall.

I'm 99.99% sure that turf mark has just been left there from her days in the UK. 2 starts ago she beat Fayana by a short head receiving 2lb and Winley by 1 1/4 lengths receiving 6lb. Fayana has a UK equivalent of 47 in France while Winley was beaten a distance in a moderate claimer at Strasbourg. 50 looked around right on what she's been doing of late.

Thank you all for your replies.

A cracking post on the puntersmate forum earlier from Nick


Re: Daily Racing Thread 02nd - 08th Nov

     

Postby nick » Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:36 pm
Couldn't help being struck by a strange-looking entry in the juicy 0-50 {8 handicap at Wolverhampton (5.40) by German trainer Rudolf Storp. The said donkey is Nice Story who was trained by Mick Channon just over 2 years ago reaching a mark of 78. Today races off 50.

Last time Nice Story was last of 4 in a handicap at Baden Baden but only beaten 2.7 lengths by a Bin Suroor Godolphin inmate, Stay Strong, who has a BHA rating of 68. Nice Story has actually won 4 of her last 6 races, 3 of those in Germany. Interestingly the first of those races was when Storp decided to make the trip to Guernsey last May for a small handicap worth £1800 to the winner. The odds on fav that day was David Evans' Cabuchon, yet Nice Story turned over that fav by 4 lengths at odds of 7/2. Cabuchon has just won on Lingfield's polytrack!

Nice Story has only ever run once on an artificial surface despite being by the American dirt sire Suave, who excelled at 10f -12f. I can't imagine Rudolf Storp bringing the horse over for such a lowly contest without very serious intent. He has booked the unsubtle Jimmy Quinn who will certainly not be over-complicating things.

In such a bad race I reckon it's worth chancing Nice Story each way at 12/1 (Ladbrokes, Fred, totesport).

Excellent

aye a bit like here, there has to be some decent posts amongst the dross

---NOT a mistake....as has been alleged by some - on this thread ABOVE

Horse ran to marks of 49 on 5th May 2014 and 43 on 4th May this year.

So 50 seemed reasonable.  I assume those above who thought it all a terrible mistake are now retiring...with their >>> WINNINGS

...and very big congratulations to those who were wise before the event, of course

It was simply a question about the handicap mark and nothing else.

A good selection from Nick although the part about the horse's last run has quite a few errors in it.

The horse has run against Cabuchon twice in Guernsey and beat him this year by 4l getting 15lb. Cabuchon is around a 50 rated horse.
The reason his turf mark is 77 on the RP site is because the rating doesn't change until he is entered for a turf race.

Retiring to GUERNSEY, no doubt -
- Where those two, 5-runner,  perceived, performances took place -
- the latter ending up a 3-finisher affair, as two runners unseated their riders - with the 3rd home being 15 lengths adrift.

Form to be dogmatic about.

As for that german run the winner Stay Strong was rated 66 and giving 4lb plus 7lb wfa to take into account, not sure how far he was beat but 50 wouldn't be far off and I'm sure the handicappers have more evidence to go on than what i'm seeing in the RP.

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aye a bit like here, there has to be some decent posts amongst the dross

Strange post by someone to my knowledge has not been on said site????

Would you not agree

Bit like saying i dont like Guiness when you have not tried it

how would you possibly know i havent been on the site, which i have by the way, its only my opinion, if you think that it doesnt contain rubbish then so be it, i think differently. you do get a bit touchy at times when others have opposing views, thats all they are im not looking for anyone to agree with me if they feel otherwise.

divi AKA fat fraud is that the site where like on here you put up unobtainable prices,
after checking oddschecker and nobet 365 for movers on your selections.

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aye a bit like here, there has to be some decent posts amongst the dross.

If that's what you think mate, then you are perfectly entitled to that opinion.

I obviously have to disagree.
We have some cracking punters on puntersmate, and they don't get shouted down or slagged like some of the very good posters on here. It's just a pity you didn't hang around and give us the benefit of your experience.

i never said there weren't cracking punters on there, lets be honest anywhere would be better than here so i certainly never said anyone gets shouted down either. all the posts arent great though imo and it has its fair share of poor ones. nowt wrong with that either. you stuck across a relevant post today, which was a good one but not completely correct, still a very decent post though. im pretty sure there would have been many today that werent good or correct. only my opinion pretty astounded that it upset you two so much to be honest

imo there are a few on it that obviously think they are far better than they are and their post read that way

It didn't upset me at all mate.
I was just replying with my thoughts, but then I am biased.

Just out of curiosity, did you only read the racing forum, or are you comments directed at the whole board.

to be fair just the racing forum, so i do apologise if the rest is all golden

by the way i include myself in posting dross, so even although its your site please dont take it personal but deep down you know i'm right

Yes sir, deep down I do know you post dross, but don't be so hard on yourself.

Take care now.

lol and you

We have some cracking punters on puntersmate, and they don't get shouted down or slagged like some of the very good posters on here. It's just a pity you didn't hang around and give us the benefit of your experience. Confused

I find the only posters that get shouted down on this forum are the bull********.

Then that casts a diffrent light on it dealer, was hardly upset, could not understand why you slagged something you had not read.

Now i realise you have then of cause you are right to have an opinion, a wrong one as usual but its still a valid opinion.

divi AKA fat fraud is that the site where like on here you put up unobtainable prices,
after checking oddschecker and nobet 365 for movers on your selections.

Thanks for you wonderful input again Brisbane/Bedford Bob

Why do you call them no bet?? If you aint clever enough to work out how to get and keep an account dont tar everybody with your ficky brush . . . cheers BBB

Good Day cobber

Divi bird/ fat fraud/ forum grass/ it is a wonder you can walk the amount of times you shoot yourself in the foot,
Weren't you the guy who last year was boasting that you had a new bet365 account and I called you a mug punter if you could get on with them.
You stated this year that you only had one account left  W H.
When someone picked up on another of your lies you said that you paid a labourer £200 to open an account for you.
It seems you weren't clever enough to keep your own bet365 account.
SEEK RESPECT NOT ATTENTION,  IT LASTS LONGER.

Would you stop stalking me please cobber . . Thank you.

What has this nonsense got to do with handicapping?

I blame you sparrow. You are obviously a troublemaker     

So it would appear, salmon 

I have no idea sparrow.

A poor mans I A L (Yes ive mentioned you but only in passing, before you go into a hissy fit)

Anyway shut your face salmon or il report you so there ner ner ner ner

Oh I hope for the day when prize money in these races increases. Above all it would drastically increase the chances of the trainer and jockey trying to Win the race!!!