Golden Horn

any idea why the drift on golden horn? coming down again slowly but went from about 1.65 to 1.85 in seconds.

Will be extremely disappointed for the Euros if Golden Horn and Found didn't lead home a 1-2 here.

American wise it's the same boring group of horses we've seen for the last few years and I dread to think of the fallout if ThePizzaMan put GH and Found in their place...

Think the drift is because of what's happened to the other Euros tonight...tempered enthusiasm

i got a green on golden horn and found, as long as one of them does it, i'm happy. 1983 was the last time a horse older than 5 won this and the best american challengers are 6 and 7.

Oct 31, 2015 -- 9:25PM, EastLower Gooner wrote:

Think the drift is because of what's happened to the other Euros tonight...tempered enthusiasm

Spot on.  Having a little bit on Red Rifle though just in case.

oh right, cheers.
not long been home so not seen any of the races yet.

There are only non form reasons to oppose the Horn, as he should smash these.

He won't need to be 100%. But its been a long season, a huge run in the Arc and maybe a few other niggling doubts.

Hopefully dispelled and he romps it.

good luck John

Dutched Found and The pizza man

one of the very best ever

are you p1ssed?

big blue kitten w/p

Clearly 'one of' the best ever.

Really hope he wins as well. Sign off as the true champ he is.

luv to see Golden Horn win, but 4/6 isn't that tempting.

Charlton talking in riddles

Memories of Dancing Brave this and to the well one too many but we'll see.

as a derby winner rated inferior to workforce ffs

not even in the top 500 ever

This superstar will have no problem with the ground or the field imo.

"Has proven he's one of the very best ever, frankly.  Derby, Irish Champion, Eclipse, Arc... Amazing."

Well, he has! 

If we could ever race Golden Horn against Dancing Brave, Sea The Stars, Lammtara and the like... he'd be right at/near the front of the lot of them

"Has proven he's one of the very best ever, frankly.  Derby, Irish Champion, Eclipse, Arc... Amazing."

Well, he has! 

If we could ever race Golden Horn against Dancing Brave, Sea The Stars, Lammtara and the like... he'd be right at/near the front of the lot of them

Have layed this as I think it might be one race too many.

solow "one of the best  ever"

ffs

mugs on here

gut feeling is a lay aswell sparrow

found " one of the best ever"

hihm please

Not keen on his draw either.

TF 133 is not in the top 500 since 1948 in the UK

onr of the best ever my @rse

sorry tale if the US horses win this....

Oh dear Charlton.

I think you may have taken the blue pill, rather than the red one.

Do you have anything positive to say? Or just snipe at other's comments.... lol!

I love horses, and horse racing. Really hope Golden Horn can yet again beat the ground, draw, long season and so on... and blow this lot away.  Its a race to enjoy and just watch but, as a value bet, Found is better for me at5s or thereabouts.

Whatever happens today, he's proved himself a serious top-notcher.

Just enjoy!

broke well enough....

That's some lead....

almost a furlong clear :o

Frankie getting closer

1-2 but in the wrong order...thank god

easy lay ££££££££££

Filly had a bit more speed in the finish

Well that sucked.

found "one of the best ever"

what a bunch of f@cking morons

9.2 ir on Found, who on earth layed that?

Frankie took too much out of the horse out of the stalls..

Poor ride..

Though she dogged it at Ascot

golden horn been faster in its sleep. sprint finish

Nice one of the greatest ever PMSL!!

well done OP

Frankie thinking of York maybe? Seemed to panic imo.

Very poor ride by Frankie..

Yep..panicked like a 7LB claimer...

joe bravo

Slower next to the rail, challenge should have been wide and later. He did panic imo.

Pocket happy :-)

Sad that (lasix-free) Golden Horn just failed. 

Amazing horses though

Thought GH looked unhappy on the ground most of the way around myself.

I reckon the Arc and the long trip over to America + long season just hit the top off Golden Horn. Didn't like to see him get beat, but still ran very gamely.

Weaver talking through his ar*e again , found had been given shocking rides the last twice, she just showed what she can do if ridden handily to the pack instead of sitting last till it's too late

Arc winners just don't win the race, a combination of factors have likely seen him run well below his best.

looks like Justin rose stood behind tabor there!

Great to see Found finally get a big one in the bag.

Golden Horn just undone by the ground/long season IMHO. Frankie rode perfectly I thought.  Take Found out, and lasix-free Golden Horn has won it.

GH is still an outrageously good horse!

gave 7lb.to found.

gave the filly 3 lbs

3 IB actually

Good ride by Moore.  Pinned GH to the worst ground - simples.

That was her 8th Race,
She only ran 14 days ago,
She was Beaten in the Arc when the Track favoured Horses racing in the first 4 and Not held up,
A Great Performance,
Golden Horse, Beaten by 2 Fillies/Mares in his Career

7lb ? Golden horn is down to carry 8.10 and Found 8.7

You'd have to wonder now about softish ground for Golden Horn. In the process of potentially getting done in Ireland on it.

And beaten on it at York by the 116 rated Arabian Queen, who was well and truly put in her place by Treve (comfortably beaten by the Horn in the Arc) in the Prix Vermeille.

was this not known before the race?

last night they were saying the turf had quickened even after the rain they had. Suddenly it's opened up like the red sea.

My friend is Ponying the runners to the start, they say the Turf is Good, plenty of sand underneath, Turf Track drains well, Times are Fast on the Turf Track,

Times are even faster on the Dirt track,
Track Records Bettered on Friday and Saturdays racing there.

A_T 31 Oct 15 21:22 Joined: 27 Jan 06 | Topic/replies: 6,350 | Blogger: A_T's blog
was this not known before the race?

i think your question is rhetorical but there are a lot of mugs on here so i'll just point out that millar mentioned it on atr about 10 times in the last 3 hours

and finally, note that the runner up isnt even his father;s best ever so let's keep a bit of perspective. else jack hobbs is 4 lbs worse than one of the best ever...christ

Frankie well and truly outridden by the best jockey in the World. A most pleasing result, and no sickening flying dismount either.

sid, i take your point, but running fast on sand is completely different to running fast on turf (turf which isn't giving way to the sand beneath).

That's why some horses don't act at Ascot (fast draining sand base) and why some horse don't act on the various underfoot conditions of the all weather.

First time I've backed the animal after laying him in the Arc bleeding typical !!!  I backed Found last time out and she was given a shocking ride. But yeah I'm gutted he lost.. He was a sitting duck coming of that bend .

Champion Miler Solow has Won his last 3 races in 1Min 42Secs, 1Min 39Secs and 1Min 38Secs,

Yesterday the 2 year olds were Winning over 1 mile turf in 1Min 39Secs, that's Both the 2 year old races, Don't tell me the Track has any Soft, its Not.

All I would ask you sid is if you would be happy backing known good ground turf form on this turf ground, regardless of times.

Yes, why Not?
Did you read my article on here about the Longchamp Arc meeting Track Bias?.

i didn't my friend, and in reference to your question, I refer you to my earlier post (21.35)