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30 Oct 15 13:24
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to cover the big jump and flat meetings. 
let's hope he is replacing fitzy.

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theres only one best tonic
When: 30 Oct 15 13:26
nah they just provide extra carriages on the gravy train
i'm sure he will add nothing to the coverage apart from being another jockeys apologist
By:
THE LEGEND
When: 30 Oct 15 13:31
McCoy - Can be like Gary Neville surprisingly different....honest insight this is the Champion in half measures
By:
Swardean
When: 30 Oct 15 13:32
Claimed to be bringing a 'Unique insight'.   Sure those same words were used when  describing Fitzy.

Perhaps unlike some other of the gravy train freeloaders,  he may be able to say it like it is.   Financially he doesn't need it, so maybe he can afford to be outspoken.  However, can  you really see him pulling Jonjo up about a JP non-trier?

The sport is crying out for a "Gary Neville" type pundit to shake up the whole industry.
By:
THE LEGEND
When: 30 Oct 15 13:32
Typo - no half measures
By:
THE LEGEND
When: 30 Oct 15 13:32
ch4 need McCoy not the other way round
By:
Swardean
When: 30 Oct 15 13:32
Just seen your post THE LEGEND... great  minds.
By:
differentdrum
When: 30 Oct 15 13:33
In a nutshell.

Bet everyone is really licking their lips at the prospect.

Might have ridden about 4 million winners but didn't anyone notice that having sticking plaster over his lips was part of the JP contract?

To be fair to the head hunters it is quite difficult. The non-jocks are rubbish and the jocks are even more rubbish.
By:
THE LEGEND
When: 30 Oct 15 13:33
Wow crazy minds on the same level
By:
Rider
When: 30 Oct 15 13:38
what really is the big deal (for someone who actually understands horses) to analyse objectively the jockeyship in a race, good and bad? lets hope mccoy fills the niche
By:
parispike
When: 30 Oct 15 13:42
You guys must get real; the carriages on the train must not be rocked lest gravy be spilt.
By:
THE LEGEND
When: 30 Oct 15 13:44
If ch4 - want to be market leaders in TV horse racing McCoy no holds bar - could promote them Sky -style off the sport they already go HD & jockey cams need a quality honest no holds barred Pundit
By:
Rider
When: 30 Oct 15 13:45
mccoy doesnt need to compromise himself pp
By:
Swardean
When: 30 Oct 15 13:45
Jockeys and trainers get the hump if they are criticized.   So very rarely will the media get stuck in.   Then end up as apologists.

Even the phrases they use are all about positive spin.

An example.  Instead of saying a trainer has not had a winner for 3 months... they say "his horses are just starting to turn the corner"..
By:
ALIEN SEX FIEND
When: 30 Oct 15 13:51
Like it or not...............lay into (verbally) a jockey and nobody will talk to you. It is not the fault with the presenters (generally).
A certain Mr Chapman tried to say it as it was..............nearly lost his job. It is annoying for us..........however would we all risk our jobs?
By:
ThunderRoad
When: 30 Oct 15 13:58
AP's great, but he's too intimately connected with too many people to be objective.
By:
parispike
When: 30 Oct 15 13:59
Why do journalists NEED to be able to talk to jockeys and/or trainers?
By:
Rider
When: 30 Oct 15 14:00
when viv richards was asked about the west indian players not liking his newspaper opinions, he said  -tough when you become a journalist you go onto the other side and work for the public who are paying your wages, racing needs more of that attitude
By:
Daryl Revok
When: 30 Oct 15 14:06
Any betting on wot his catchphrase will be?
By:
Ramruma
When: 30 Oct 15 14:07
Any betting on wot his catchphrase will be?


How many winners have you ridden?
By:
posy
When: 30 Oct 15 14:09
Swwing as he'll be working with that Balding tnuc doubt he'll get to say too much at all.
By:
Ramruma
When: 30 Oct 15 14:18
AP's column was a must-read in Her Majesty's Daily Telegraph. The man is a fair judge of the form book, which a lot of jockeys are not.
By:
Daryl Revok
When: 30 Oct 15 14:25
'He's caught a cold, in the green & gold, but he'll improve 50lbs for the experience'
By:
unbiased
When: 30 Oct 15 14:32
Robbie Savage can be a real pain at times,but is an ex player and DOES say it how it is,and doesn't pull his punches.So if a footballer can do it,so can a jockey.
Obviously criticism may result in being "blanked",but if it was you are paid to do,then the bad things have to be said,and the consequences accepted,or don't take the job knowing you are expected to criticise your colleagues,if need be.
They can always turn round and say "this isn't for me,as I don't want to become unpopular with my mates,and ex paymasters"!
By:
ALIEN SEX FIEND
When: 30 Oct 15 14:42
unbiased, if he was going to talk ******* like RS, I would rather he said nothing. However as they say, it is a game of opinions.
By:
crepello
When: 30 Oct 15 14:47
Zero chance of McCoy saying anything controversial but he does not have to be great shakes to show how little Fitzgerald knows about form .... we know already how desperate he is ...
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 30 Oct 15 15:06
The fact of the matter is trainers and especially jockeys throw their toys out of the pram if you dare criticize them. I remember watching Channel 4 racing one day a couple of years and at a meeting at Sandown. Nick Luck went to talk with Barry Geraghty and Barry was like "how dare you criticize me for a ride" I'm not sure what ride it was, but obliviously Nick had said something about one of his rides in a newspaper column or on the morning line the week before. Nick has not made the same mistake twice because he doesn't want to be thrown from the gravy train. It was funny how Barry reacted though and he reacted like all the top jockeys and trainers do. Do you really think McCoy is going to criticize any of his pals and when Claire comes back you can be sure she won't either. It will just be one sickening love in with mutual back slapping the order of the day.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 30 Oct 15 15:07
*years ago
By:
Oceanfinance
When: 30 Oct 15 15:13
One of life's great mysteries how Muckhoy retired with a squeaky clean image.
By:
arrested development
When: 30 Oct 15 15:22
That's why he retired Ocean no? Whilst legacy was still just about intact?
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 30 Oct 15 15:24
When Claire comes back I won't be watching anyway. Her style of presenting probably appeals to pony owning 11yo girls and their mummy's but it certainly doesn't to me.
By:
Oceanfinance
When: 30 Oct 15 15:27
Maybe, AD.
By:
Sir Epicure Mammon
When: 30 Oct 15 15:29
C4 Racing would be better off hiring Leonna Mayor in a very low cut top. That would boost viewing figures.
By:
wondersobright
When: 30 Oct 15 15:36
Laugh
By:
Gibberish
When: 30 Oct 15 16:21
Football pundits Gary Neville & Robbie Savage seem to be surprisingly popular (they were hated as players) so what specifically do they do which the gravy merchants baulk at?
By:
paul the b
When: 30 Oct 15 16:52
Nice guy AP.
But if anyone honestly believes he will bring anything that will improve CH4 to any great extent or have a pop at anybody who has given something a bad right is clearly deluded.
Racing folk hate any form of criticism......look how Ryan Moore behaves with the press for example. Yes Moore can do what he likes but it costs nothing to be polite at the very least.
Good luck to AP but the producers of CH4 will not allow him to throw off the shackles and say what he would really thinks as it upsets the whole incestuous racing industry.
Hope I'm wrong but probably not!
By:
The Pinhooker
When: 30 Oct 15 17:10
There have been a number of occasions in racing when jockeys have taken legal action against newspapers for criticising jockeys for for what the writer considered a "poor" ride.

One of the most recent actions was when Kieren Fallon was awarded damages against the Sporting Life in the High Court.

As a result, senior management in all sections of the media will not allow their writers/pundits to say anything controversial about jockeys/trainers otherwise the organisation could find themselves on the costly end of  a legal action.

If they wish to stay in employment, journalists/pundits have no alternative other than to keep their lips buttoned.
By:
The Dragon
When: 30 Oct 15 17:30
hardly the most articulate presenter .. lucky to get much out of him i reckon
By:
The Dragon
When: 30 Oct 15 17:32
bring back big mac!!!!
By:
Mick Sturbs
When: 30 Oct 15 17:48
CH4 in a desperate attempt to pull in more viewers  will wait and see if his contributions are worthwhile
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