The Top 10 Pundits you no longer see on the telly - 2015 update

Richard Pitman ?

Barty
Ray Cochrane

Statto

Hugh Taylor is a shocking omission - can't remember the last time I saw him on the telly!

dave compo compton haha and that gimp dean mckeown wtf is he doing

On a serious note I always liked "Stormin' Norman", Williamson, especially Cheltenham week.

A lot easier on the ear than Fitzy

Barry Bismarck

Bill Smith

The charming Miss Hislop
Ian Bartlett

Declan "awesome" Murphy

Reading this thread
Makes Mick Fitz sound ok

Steve Smith Eccles

Miriam and Zoey,

where are they now

Are there any pundits who are dead or are they all still alive?

andy......was it dean or dale.............or maybe both

not sure about Sir Peter but the rest of them are dead.

As far as I'm aware, they're all living happily ever after.

Though having said that, it's highly likely that they and those of us reading will this thread will all be dead within 100 years from now.

And on that cheerful note, I bid you all a good evening.

Barry Faulkner

He's alive too, adamski

Gary Selby

i miss miriam francome

george

when was gary selby on ?

He used to be a regular on Sunday evenings covering the US racing, foxy

I've not seen him on a while, though I stand to be corrected.

theres another good reason then not to watch american racing.

cardiff yes dale my mistake the t'other one must been on his laptop

John Lowe got regular occurrences in the studio for a few years running.

Must also mention that young American commentator, somebody Horowitz who was on a working visit for a couple of months, though he would only commentate on one or two races on a card. He would sometimes use UK commentary phrases without understanding the meaning eg ' they're straightening up for home' at the 2f marker in a race with a 4f straight.

Other ex-jocks who I think put in a few appearances as pundits - John Reid and ?Kevin Darley.

14. the much loved and respected Lesley Graham

the fat south african who actually knew what he was talking about, i think he worked or had a connection with betfair as well

dave smith

Gary Selby told it like it should be told , no messing with him , had his own way of doing things but always interesting .

yes i liked gary he was excellent in the evenings

what was the name of the yorkshire chap who also came on for usa racing some nights, quite dour?

used to post on here too

add dave duggan as well

horuisis

the south african you refer to was called andrew,around 10 of us was in the chinesse in doncaster for the st leger meeting before they built the new stand,anyway after ordering drinks the waiter asked each one of us what we wanted as a starter when it was andrews turn his reply was all of them.

true story

regarding gary selby he may well have come across well on tv but in real life he is the most negative person i have ever met.

Big Mac (booted off C4) & not on atr much these days either
Not everybody's cup of T, but found his male chauvinistic ways quite funny at times

Paul Quigley, elise?

yes george thanks, wasn't getting there myself

to be fair, you are very slow.

the big sarf aficaan was on only a couple of weeks back

cheers timeless

slaphead

harsh but true

actually paul may have been a manc so apologies

Liked Stormin Norman myself.top jock in his day
Big Mac (at least he had a personality)
John Rickman
John Virgo

Jimmy Lindley?

9. you missed the 'e' off, George...it's John Francombe


good list though..Phil Curry and Andy Constantinopolis both went the fast pic route, i think, along with Matt 'He wont come up the hill' Williams...same circles as roida, he'll know

wot woz that bloke's name wot waz on ATR loads before Matt took over imo ?!

You possibly mean Dave Compton

yup, him's the won

Reputed to be John Hunt's old sparring partner - Patrick Kinghorn

and that other geezer who used to be on the Saturday morning show - ? Keith Elliott

Steve someone on RUK. Used to do work for Turf TV

Steve Taylor

BTW Steve Taylor is not the Steve im looking for if that makes sense

Steve Beal?

Steve Taylor is a good un though, he would sometimes refer to someone called 'Elsey'...eventually I realised he meant David Elsworth

the forumite elise named himself after him.

Steve Beal. Thats him. Dodgy green jumpers

not many people know this but he is related to Ian Beal from Coronation Street.

lesley (something or other) used to annoy me on the morning line

That Welsh fellow , No Good Boyo I think he called himself on here

he is number 13 on the list.

timeless
29 Oct 15 15:44

not many people know this but he is related to Ian Beal from Coronation Street.


i've not watched a soap in 20 yrs but even i know something aint right there!

like I said, not many people know this and you are one of them.

By the way elise, if you don't know, Paul Quigley has an American racing column on the ATR website.

So someone still appreciates his punditry skills!

Steve Lewis Hamilton - he was boring, seemed to do a lot of study with unspectacular results.

Graham Rock

Recall on the old ATR, the Sunday morning discussion show they had (don't think it was called the Sunday Forum back then ), anyway, Barty and Mellish were on, and they were discussing a trainer to whom Mellish described as a "proper trainer", to which Barty quipped: "would you care to name any improper trainers" .

Not quite as funny as Matt's Joe Pesci impersonation, but it still makes me chuckle!

ATR's Pharaoh : Matt Doyle

John Rickman - he actually forgot where he was broadcasting from once 

timeless
29 Oct 15 16:08

like I said, not many people know this and you are one of them.

if you're going to try to be funny, you might want to get your soaps the right way round..Ian Beale's in Eastenders

I just checked some replays,

when he was related to Steve Beal, he was deffo in Corrie.

Has anyone mentioned that bumbling fool Willie Carson?

Hang on I used to earn £600 a day freelancing to provide the box that Willie stood on when he presented the racing with Claire..

Another reason why I hate the BBC...

McCoy Carp Jimmy Lindley?

Of course, I have a really old video I kept when Clare Baldwin first appeared on the scene.  Clare described Lochsong has having a chest like Eve Pollard which upset Julian Wilson and the physique of a chippendale which prompted Jimmy to questionly say he couldn't see any similarity with a chair. I kid you not if I can find it I will put it on youtube.  Strangely enough they were both pensioned off not long afterwards.

Dale McKeown

was good on the American racing.

That was during the Gay/Lesbian/Transgender and afraid of them takeover of the BBC..

Never buy a TV Licence simply write to them saying that you will not pay because of their Left Wing Bias and because they pay their presenters and alleged managers excessive salaries...

You will then be one of the 600 000 and growing number of people that refuse to pay...

GEORGE B: You missed out Walter Swinburn

Once during a long 1950's newspaper strike the only thing being printed was the old small sized Handicap Book (that gave me the advance entries and previous weeks results) apart from daily stencilled sheets of runners and results being sold from the back of vans. A Guy sitting next to me on the train going to Newbury asked to have a look at it. He asked how I was getting on during the strike I said even better than usual as prices were better as people did not have the form from the Life to help them and I was not being put off any of my selections by tipsters. He smiled at that. I spoke to him again later in the afternoon and found that he was John Rickman. After that he always used to raise his hat to me when he saw me at the races.

I've had a shocker there, Oldgit. Fancy forgetting about the choirboy!

Lovely story, btw.

Clare Baldwin 

Lady Cress a shocking omission

Ian Carnaby
Jeff Stelling
Doug Fraser

Ian Carnaby
Jeff Stelling
Doug Fraser

Don't think you'll be seeing too much of Doug Fraser anymore

A certain George Doby or Dobby who used to turn up with John Rickman from time to time. He would introduce the viewers to an item of interest; tack, colours, racecards etc.
Does anybody know anything about him? I have often wondered who he was and who he worked for.

Graham Goode on the Morning Line looking like he'd be more comfortable almost anywhere else.

Derek Thompson on Ch4 racing mixing with the public and asking them which horse is going to win.

Memories of those two on live terrestrial tv bring a tear to the eye!

I remember George Dobbie Dunlaying,as you say always with Rickman,didn't he act as his paddock judge?
No idea what he did apart from the telly bit.

Ken Butler - He had a couple of runners last week, must be about 92 years old now.

Oh I did not know that he was the paddock man Ribero. That is something we see very little of these days ,the paddock.

I seem to remember Richard Fox appearing on Channel 4 Racing quite a lot in its early days.

I've looked this up and there's no mention of it - perhaps he wasn't an official presenter but he always seemed to be available for a few words and was very engaging. He could talk the hind legs off a donkey.

I actually had no idea he had passed away in 2011 at the shockingly young age of 57.

This from the Telegraph's obituary:

He was also in demand on the after-dinner speaking circuit, to which he brought a repertoire of amusing anecdotes and tall tales from the world of racing.

Among his staple stories was a take on the occasion in Trinidad when he rode a winner called Devil Woman for Bob Marley: “As he came into the paddock he sneezed. I was high for nine days.”

Fox’s red hair and small stature led to his being hired as a body double for Rupert Grint (in the role of Ron Weasley) in the film Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002).

Richard Fox had been on a life-support machine for two months after collapsing while shopping in Newmarket in April. He never regained consciousness and died on June 28.

"The Mystery Tipster" seen in silhouette and he actually managed a few winners. ITV7 era.
Foxy was a most entertaining chap.

wasnt that big south africen called andrew retal or something similar think he lost all his punting prowess when he lost all that weight,that bookie from the midlands always on atr called himself the colonel , and that bookies rep ex woman trainer was the best of all time ,bunnyboiler what was she called again

its come back to me vicky haigh the worst person if to appear in front of a camera cringworthy everytime

What about "The Pharaoh".Matt whatever his name was.

Oct 31, 2015 -- 6:56AM, duncan idaho wrote:

Clare Baldwin 

that made me chuckle anarl

Jon Parrott?

Has Matt Williams been mentioned? He might be keeping his head down if it's true Cardiff have some fast pics.

Steve Beal is still going strong on Turftv not sure what will happen to him when that station ends.

few on here being mentioned would need a Ouija board to get them back on tv

Ken Pitterson has done the best of the lot, made it on to ITV.

Winstanley tipping in the Daily Star.

Matt Doyle in New York at 7.42