Never ever thought i would but ive just joined purple

Have only used it a couple of time myself Ghost, but they certainly got a chunk of my business today.

you'll enjoy it, can't remember it the last time it crashed

Can't remember ever seeing any money on there - good luck matching with nothing.

Already been matched bilbo, so I am unsure what you are saying.

just waiting to withdraw all my funds and i"ll be there enough is enough now

Every day I consider it more. But seeing the pitiful state of the 1.20 at Newbury delays that day more too.

It will soon be crashing with all you lot joining. 

Bet it wasn't in-running Fruiterie. Easy to get a few quid matched with their pre-race bots but useless for everything else.

I've been on there for over a year since being put on 40% on here, you can normally get a decent amount matched a few minutes before the off which is good enough for me. Though not much use for those who do in-running at the moment. The problem is when bf goes down I struggle to get my bets matched on purple so when people see the liquidity on there  today then no one will switch over.

Sad day betfair....we have all gone for good...and its your own fault!!!!

WELL IM MATCHED BILBO B . . . NOT THAT I WANT TO BE, BUT YOU CANT TRUST THIS PLACE ANYMORE

And me! But markets dire, especially place.

Yep, just joined.

All you lot saying you would go Purple,but you have looked and there is no money,there will never be any money if you keep saying that FFS.

Just move your money over,if you don't it will never get any better

I've had a purple account since they started.

It's true the prices were always a notch or two behind this place but these days sometimes the reverse is the case.

I have an account with **** to be used when betfair is down. It is absolutely useless. You can't get a decent bet on anything pre race even.
Will never be any use.

Personally I prefer Betfair, purely for their starting price which I usually find hard to beat.

£340,445 matched on that last race at Chelt. by the way.

I just had a look at the previous race at Newbury on ****
About a minute before the off there were no less than 5 horses being offered at 3-1 or less best price on the back side.
And zero available at any price on plenty of horses on the lay side.
Maybe all the money is being bet by invisible robots on there, I don't know.
What I do know is you can't have a grand on a horse in a GROUP RACE without knocking the price in by a very big chunk. EG 6.6 into 4.5
It is like a ghost site over there and completely unusable to anyone who wants to bet in volume.

Thanks for starting a tnread to tell us OP

if betfair is down, purple will have not much liquidity pre-race.
if betfair is up and running, you will get matched at 1 tick lower than here

Quick question - can one get rid of the annoying "CONFIRM" on Dack?

Your welcome irish are lucky . . . any chance hey.

If betfair is up and running, there's not much point in using ****.
If it is down, then you can't get a bet on ****.
Useful.

*unless you pay premium charge BB

I AM GOING

It doesn't matter whether you pay premium charge or not. If you want to have any sort of bet on purple without crashing the price, you can't.

yup . . . pity compertion is always good.

no good for you irish no forum to troll on

Oct 24, 2015 -- 4:26PM, pablo-fanque wrote:

*unless you pay premium charge BB

20 percent (or 40, 60, etc) of nothing is nothing.

if you are backing at the top end of the market you shouldn't have a problem , if you are prepared to take one tick  lower or same as here .

there is a bot that takes the bet their if it is 1/2 ticks lower and places the bet on betfair as to how much liquidity there is on the selection on here

pre-race BB , not in-running

There is less liquidity on purple when Betfair is down because Bots can't operate. That said there were a few good prices but too small stakes. More pleasurable then current Betfair experience if you are only a small punter.

Depends how much you want on, pablo.
It is no use to me.
And yes, I am referring to pre race.

pablo is correct, as long as there is plenty of money in the bf market you can get plenty on purple at the same time at a similar price, earlier in the day you could actually get a tick bigger on Blue De Vega at Leopardstown for good money.

BB , you have tried taking 1/2 ticks lower and still can't get matched ?

I get matched for a few hundered and the price contracts and stays contracted.
Had 2k on one earlier and shotened it up from 6.8 to 4.5
In a GROUP RACE just before the off.
Impossible to punt on there regularly with markets like that, just pathetic.

and it didn't shorten up from 6.8 to 4.5 on here ?

Here was down.
And its all very well saying that you can get a bet on when Betfair is working but that would be like having an electricity generator that can only work by being plugged into the mains.

so you pay PC and bet here pre race BB ?

Like I said:

£340,445 matched on that last race at Chelt. by the way.

That was in the 2:45 Cheltenham.

Believe what you like.

Dr C - you do know how purple calculates its 'matched' figures don't you?

In case you don't - if you have £10 at 20/1, purple counts that as £210 matched. Betfair counts it as £20 matched.

Just watching the 17:20 at Newbury.

Over £5,000 matched while I'm typing this.

£28,000 so far on the race.

How do you know that ged?

Betfair up and running again - all is forgiven .

you have our valued loyal custom back again

All is sweet in the Betfair garden again .

Betfair 102.4% purple 104%

About 1.5% better for punters on Betfair

Dr C - past research, from looking at illiquid markets and big-priced entries. It's been discussed on here many times in the past.

I see.

Ged, that explains a lot.
Like why the liqudity over there is so obviously pathetic despite the amounts matched looking respectable on paper.
I can only go by my experience of the site, which is that it is rubbish.

never ever thought i would but ive just joined purple

At least that's one positive to come out of Betfairs ignominy!

I have really enjoyed using them.

If you bet close to the off you can get the same price as on here for a decent amount from my experience (if this place is up). If you want an early price on there you have no chance - but that is the same here.

Barton Bank - now this place is up and running why not try some today pre race on there? If you pay pc on here surely it is a no brainer, if you wanted a grand at 6.6 on there and it was the same price on here, and you put it in at 6.2 it would get matched imo. If you pay pc that is a better option than being robbed blindly by the greed of BF isn't it?

How will liquidity improve if everyone says there is no liquidity, but then won't move to help the liquidity??


Why will BF ever listen to its customers when they all stay after having yet another shocking experience on here? I lost plenty enough for me yesterday trying to trade out of bets elsewhere, having bets matched that didn't show up, having bets unmatched but wasn't sure if they were on or not as nothing was stable.

This place is ran by pure greed and greed only, and when have they ever done anything for their customers who pay for everything bar a pathetic apology for any of their complete c0ck ups? They won't be getting another deposit from me, and has to be one of the worst companies I have come across when it comes to service and and how they treat customers.

I had look this morning and tons tons better than when last had a peep. Will give it a try Ghostie like you. This site is just the pants and treat punters with total contempt. Everything everywhere was suspended yesterday en block all Championship matches at one point. This lot simply do not care about joe public.

Dickie - it should never have been switched back on or left open if it wasn't 100% safe and operational. I obviously am not the only one going by comments of bets showing or not, but any complaints just get ignored or fobbed off. When this place first started they would have compensated with something at least, (it is my own doing for staying on here yesterday). But is their sheer arrogance and attitude towards paying customers that gets to me. Vile firm ran by incompetent greedy clueless buffoons imo.

Their attitude comes from the top, so maybe he can come on here with an apology, telling us all how they value and listen to us, and how it won't happen again - you know the same old same old b0llocks they tell us. May as well just shut the exchange down and advertise as a fooking arcade with a sportsbook for complete mugs only unless you bet in pennies.

Have just had a look at purple for the biggest race of the day. The liqudity is rank compared with here.
Betfair has its faults but I am not going to go over there and take under the odds on every bet to provide some liqudity. Sorry.

BB - all I am saying is pre race a few mins before the off is fine to get matched, and anyone who pays pc on here surely its a no brainer. Also just because the liquidity is not showing it doesn't mean you won't get matched by the bots

^^^

"Betfair has its faults".

Understatement of the decade, possibly Millennium imo.

I've gone over; more should. Nothing changes otherwise.

I would use **** if I could get a proper bet matched without crashing the price, but I can't so I don't.
And yes I agree above comment was an understatement. Though it remains to be seen how the purple site would cope with a massively increased number of customers as well.

I would use **** if I could get a proper bet matched without crashing the price, but I can't so I don't.


And here was me starting to think you had some other motive for objecting so strongly to the purple.

purple prices follow betfair prices. the price won't crash their if it hasn't here .

a bot will take your bet at one tick lower on purple and place it on betfair so long as the amount you want on is available on betfair , regardless of what is showing as liquidity on purple .

Yet I'd got both exchanges open yesterday and while Betfair was generally better is wasn't better on every runner by any means.

if you don't pay PC , it makes no difference where you bet though

So if Betfair isn't open for the techies to arb with you can't have a bet, then?
Wonderful stuff.

that's right .

but how many races in a year would you have not been able to bet in with all the outages here . 200 out of 6000+ races ?

maybe more.

but if you pay PC and bet pre-race , it makes no difference , you take 1/2 ticks lower and let the arb bots take their cut , or pay 20%-60% on your winnings .

If Bdq had a BSP equivalent, and the layers that BF have, alot more would go over. Bdq however categorically not interested in operating their own "SP". Could it be that they are owned by a big bookie and would not want to move business away from the big bookie Sportsbook??

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25 Oct 15 14:12
So if Betfair isn't open for the techies to arb with you can't have a bet, then?
Wonderful stuff.



And how do you then bet on here?? Maybe if you did try a few bets on there you may change your mind slightly (but it seems you are just one of many who won't try and change even though it has improved), there maybe some big layers out there who won't go across because there are no big backers. It makes no sense to moan about liquidity but do nothing to try and improve the situation imo.

I am not trying to cause arguments but I honestly think it is worth a try from your end, you may be surprised.

tora, I read a few days ago that purple will introduce a SP

Purple are going to introduce their own sp I think - not sure when mind

That would be great. I'll be over there in a shot. It feels like the BF exchange is going through a "winding down" operation at the moment, trying to force users on to the sportsbook.

tobora - to have a max of £2 ew allowed?

Exactly.